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DP needs space - please help me through this

392 replies

Stealthynamechange · 10/09/2020 10:45

i will try to be brief, DP 1 1/2 years, see each other daily, he has great relationship with my ds (knew him as friends first) we were planning to move in together.
DP has been weird since saturday, told me last night one of his friends who used to be his student messaged him to say she'd ended her relationship & has had feelings for DP for years. He says because he didnt have a err no reaction its thrown everything into doubt & he doesnt know what he wants, he wants some space to think about things & has left me in a broken hearted limbo, i feel like utter crap, hes told me everyday for however long its been now that he loves me, hes says he means it. He says he thinks hes going to tell her to back off, hes done well to tell me & apparently in the past he would have cheated.
I feel like the rug has been pulled from under me. I truly believed him when he said he loves me.
I feel like crap.
Hes messaged to apologise numerous times.
He called to see if im ok this morning as i didnt reply to his messages - im not, im in heart break limbo.
Wise mumsnetters i need your help to get through this.
Thank you for reading.

OP posts:
CanWeComeIntoTheOutNow · 10/09/2020 13:09

What do you want to see when you look in the mirror?

Right now you have options. You have power. You have control. You have self esteem (you do, despite what he's done). Let him wander in and out of your life at his will and you lose all those. Do you want to see that woman every day?

Goslowlysideways · 10/09/2020 13:10

What will life be like if he picks you?

He would risk losing you for the sake of a possibility! With a woman just out of a relationship.

I wish you well but you really deserve better and so does your child.
He seems like a complete sleaze.

confusedandeatingcheese · 10/09/2020 13:12

He sounds like a right slime ball. Dump his ass.

IndecentFeminist · 10/09/2020 13:14

Regardless of who he 'chooses', is this being loved enough for you?

dottiedodah · 10/09/2020 13:16

Maybe he does love you but is flattered by the attention from another woman? If she used to be his student ,guessing quite a bit younger than him? Seems a little odd that he would be messaged completely out of the blue like this? I agree with others that if he is going to mess around like this he cannot be 100% committed to you .Maybe have a think and see if there are any old flames you could mention as well .See how he feels the other way round!

diddl · 10/09/2020 13:17

Op, hope that you dump him-because you're worth so much more.

Usernameismyname01 · 10/09/2020 13:19

I think what everyone is say is correct, leave him but i do think if he comes back to you you will take him and then bend over backwards trying to justify to him that he was correct in picking you and hoping that he doesnt have any regrets.

But just think for a minute - if you had been the one instigating the "space needed conversation" you wouldn't expect him to say something along the lines of " you know what, if you are having to think about what i mean to you after 18mths together then your not the person i thought you are and want in mine and my sons life. I wont be part of a choice that you have to make, i value myself so much more than that. But, what you have given me is a choice, do I want you? and you have made that answer for me very easy - NO!"

and then think how you would feel hearing that, you would shit yourself that you lost them and if, IF they were to have you back, you would know that they were not going to be a push over and the drawing of a line not to ever step over had well and truly been drawn

You then have the upper hand and he then has to prove that he was worth keeping, not you!

namechange20202020 · 10/09/2020 13:25

How could you love someone who
Makes you feel like
An option? Even if he does choose you, he works with her so you'll always be thinking about what they're up to at work:

I really think you should end it and move on. Cut your losses now.

1forAll74 · 10/09/2020 13:27

Your idea of love, is not the same as your man's idea of love. He want's space, the more space the better would be good, for you !

Friendsoftheearth · 10/09/2020 13:29

Op you are just going through a divorce after an abusive marriage, and yet you can not see that dp is also hurting and being disrespectful to you. Have you done the freedom programme?

Even the mere fact you are considering 'waiting' for his answer, even though he is clearly in no way committed or in love with you speaks absolute volumes about your self esteem, confidence and ability to have an equal and harmonious relationship.

You are in fact very vulnerable, having just left a situation that was abusive op. You need to end this with him now, not for anyone but you.

The next year or longer needs to be spent loving yourself, putting yourself back together, knowing your own boundaries, doing the freedom programme. Regaining your confidence and finding your own place in the world on your OWN terms.

You are are in danger of going from one bad relationship to another unless you stop now.

You are not ending it with him because he is a total shit (and yes he absolutely is not a great guy to do this to anyone) but because you need to take care of you for a while. You have to come first now and going forward.

The only space that is needed in your life right should be for the freedom programme so can you move onto a genuine, loving and fulfilling partnership that you deserve, without compromising yourself in the process.

willloman · 10/09/2020 13:32

You need to end this miserable manipulation - you're not the reserve muffin kept at the back of the cupboard in case...
Tell him it's over and mean it.
And go and live the life you deserve.
Good luck.

Dery · 10/09/2020 13:35

"What do you want to see when you look in the mirror?

Right now you have options. You have power. You have control. You have self esteem (you do, despite what he's done). Let him wander in and out of your life at his will and you lose all those. Do you want to see that woman every day?"

This.

It's so hard for you, OP - so heartbreaking, particularly when you thought you had settled into a committed relationship with a decent man.

But as you know, if he were as committed as you, he wouldn't be investigating what might happen with this woman (a work colleague, no less). And like PP, I somehow doubt he has told you the full story on how her confession came about. Perhaps she is as brazen as this approach suggests but given that they work together, which brings all kinds of other factors into play, I would imagine she was at least given a fair amount of encouragement first.

If this had happened in the very early months of your relationship when you're both still feeling your way into it and working out whether or not there's a future, I think it could be surmountable (I did something a bit similar to my now DH), but by 18 months in, there shouldn't have been a question.

You've said you know what you need to do but you're not sure you have the strength to do it. Could you do it in stages?

Perhaps for now you could say that you need space to reflect on whether this is still the right relationship for you because his actions have told you that you and he are not coming from quite the same place. There doesn't have to be blame. You can just be calmly matter of fact about it. And then in a week or two's time, you can say that having reflected you don't see a future because you need someone you can trust to remain committed and he has shown you that he is not that man.

If giving him space pushes him into her arms, well the chances are that he would always have ended up there. And if he can do this once, he can do it repeatedly. And the impact on your self-esteem will be enormous.

However, the impact on your self-esteem of saying you love and value yourself enough that you're not going to be someone's Plan B - I think that will actually be very positive.

MadinMarch · 10/09/2020 13:36

It's quite likely that he has already been seeing her. I wonder whether they are planning a weeekend away this weekend, which is why he needs 'space'?

QuestionMarkNow · 10/09/2020 13:40

He says he thinks hes going to tell her to back off, hes done well to tell me & apparently in the past he would have cheated.

That, for me, is a massive red flag.
He is telling you what and who he is. Listen to him.
He is saying

  • he had cheated in the past
  • he is considering cheating
  • you should be grateful he is telling you (wtf. His first reaction if he ‘loves you’ would be to automatically tell he to back off)

Basically he is testing the waters with YOU to see how much you are happy to compromise/wait for him etc...

20bloodypounds · 10/09/2020 13:44

My cousin did something similar. Seemed to think he had some kind of moral high ground because he was 'honest' and told his wife he had feelings for someone. Nope, still caused heartbreak for all.

Honesty is an important characteristic, but it doesn't trump all other values and behaviours. What about compassion, self-control, loyalty, trust..

A truly good and honourable partner might have felt flattered, had his head turned, but if he was loyal, trustworthy, kind, compassionate he might have deliberately turned away from the temptation, actively invested in his current relationship, sought external counselling to help make sense of his own thoughts and feelings.

OP your dp did none of these. He hides behind the whitewash of 'honesty' and in the process leaves you vulnerable, uncertain, heartbroken. That is not the act of a good man, or the actions of love. You deserve so much better.

scoobydoo1971 · 10/09/2020 13:50

You have had great advice here and the over-riding consensus is to dump him and block. He is not a future partner and will continue to abuse you for as long as you allow it. Stop being a doormat to his vast ego. If it wasn't this woman who came along, it would be another. She is no bargain if she is willing to poach a man who is already in a relationship, and he doesn't think much of you if his head has been turned by the first person to show interest. I work in Higher Education and the thought of being emotionally involved with a student, or former student is just ewwww....many learning organisations now have policies in place concerning lecturer-student relationships as it is deemed to be unprofessional and unethical. Ultimately he had a position of power over this woman at some stage, and that means he has dubious ethics and morality to overstep a boundary. Lecturers all know some lothario or other in teaching who dates their students...they are always perceived as losers and misfits for not having the right level of judgement/ integrity.

This man has told you about previous cheating, and his current conduct shows who he is. Time to put away the dramatic heartache routine and start thinking with your head...are you looking for a life-time of being treated so poorly?

Namechangearoo · 10/09/2020 13:55

My ex decided he needed some space too. He said he needed a week. I was utterly broken hearted so my friend took me under her wing and told me she was going surfing with another friend and would I like to join them as a distraction? When I got there the other friend was a nice lad who she’d known years. She wasn’t trying to set me up (in fact she specifically told me he wasn’t dating material) but... I liked him. When my ex got back in touch to tell me he wanted to break up, all his stuff was already in bin liners. His face! Anyway, me and the surfer guy have been together for 12 years, and married for 5 now Wink

There’s better out there for you.

Codexdivinchi · 10/09/2020 13:56

He wouldn’t even be contemplating this if he was in love with you.

How fucking dare he expect you to wait for his decision

Palavah · 10/09/2020 14:02

@QuestionMarkNow

He says he thinks hes going to tell her to back off, hes done well to tell me & apparently in the past he would have cheated.

That, for me, is a massive red flag.
He is telling you what and who he is. Listen to him.
He is saying

  • he had cheated in the past
  • he is considering cheating
  • you should be grateful he is telling you (wtf. His first reaction if he ‘loves you’ would be to automatically tell he to back off)

Basically he is testing the waters with YOU to see how much you are happy to compromise/wait for him etc...

This.
Dery · 10/09/2020 14:04

"A truly good and honourable partner might have felt flattered, had his head turned, but if he was loyal, trustworthy, kind, compassionate he might have deliberately turned away from the temptation, actively invested in his current relationship, sought external counselling to help make sense of his own thoughts and feelings.

OP your dp did none of these. He hides behind the whitewash of 'honesty' and in the process leaves you vulnerable, uncertain, heartbroken. That is not the act of a good man, or the actions of love. You deserve so much better."

This. Most of us can have our heads turned. Other people don't cease to be attractive just because you're in a committed relationship - marriage vows would be meaningless if that were the case! What counts is how we choose to respond to it.

Drinkingallthewine · 10/09/2020 14:08

Right now he's dating her to see where it's going, to see if it has potential. If it does, he'll only be back to you for the stuff he left at your house.
If it doesn't go anywhere, he'll be back lovebombing you until the next temptation comes his way and he needs another 'break'. And you'll live with the knowledge that he tossed your relationship to once side to fuck someone then casually picked it back up with no regard for how he tore your heart apart.
These are the not the actions of a loving man.

FinallyHere · 10/09/2020 14:11

So sorry he is treating you so badly. Don't let him get away with it. Don't just wait around to see what he decides. Certainly don't do the 'pick me' dance

https://www.chumplady.com/2012/04/the-humiliating-dance-of-pick-me/

Your self esteem is a lot to do with how you treat yourself and equally, how you allow others to treat you.

Be kind to yourself. Bin him off and enjoy your life. Don't just sit around on the off chance that he wants to come back.

All the best.

MumChats · 10/09/2020 14:12

You can. You're just in shock because this has come out of nowhere - but you know what you need to do.

There's a great song by the beautiful south (a little time) along these lines, a duet where the man asks for a bit of space. When he comes crawling back, the woman has moved on. It's great - the way she sings is so strong and empowering, and she puts him right in his place. Music always helps me in difficult times like this, maybe it would help you to give it a listen Smile

tenlittlecygnets · 10/09/2020 14:16

You left an abusive marriage, were not even divorced and dived into another one and already involving him in your son's life and planning to move him in with your son. Now you want to hang onto said bloke who blew you off the second he got a potentially better offer.
Just no.
The fact that you are not sure you can bin this prick speaks volumes - that your self-esteem is too low to even be dating, much less moving in with a man who treats you so badly, who will 'need space' and leave you to it anytime he gets a more tempting possibility.
You need to get rid of him and stop bloody dating until you've done a lot of work on your self-esteem.
This isn't fair on you and definitely not on your son.

This, with bells on.

Dump him. Take some time to be on your own with your ds, get your divorce done. Do the Freeddim Programme. Spend time with friends. Find out who YOU are and what you want.

NewAutumnName · 10/09/2020 14:17

I'm not sure what to say but a Flowers from me and hope that you manage to sort this out so both are you are happy going forward.

Good luck.

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