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DP has left because he found me too awful to be around. Not sure I agree.

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WhiteWidow001 · 05/09/2020 08:53

Regular with name change - I need some collective wisdom here. I have to mention at the start that DP has a diagnosed personality disorder and partly this means he can see things in a very black and white way (people or situations are either brilliant or terrible and he can switch that perspective over minor things). What I can’t work out is whether or not this is a minor thing or if I need to do some apologising.

I live on my own in a house with two children (13 and 10). I’ve had some dramatic (and traumatic) circumstances which means I have to sell the house. It’s a big job to get it ready for market.

DP lives on his own in a very small place, only big enough for one. He basically lives at mine and has been working REALLY hard to help me get the house sorted.

DP has an adult daughter who graduated this year. There is a VERY high level of conflict between her and her mum and during Lockdown she got worryingly low about it all, so in June I offered for her to come and stay in my spare room to get a break and establish the next steps in her life (job hunt, flat hunt etc). She has a qualification in child care and wants to work in a related field, so I said that while she was here, instead of giving me money, she could contribute by doing some home-schooling and childcare (I work full time so this is a massive help). I made it clear this was not a long-term solution as I’m selling the house.

Two things have happened that have brought things to a head with me and DP. One is that, for the past week, I’ve been clearing out my house and coming across lots of reminders of the traumatic events that caused me to sell. This includes finding and binning things that belonged to people who died and who I was very close to. I’ve found this really difficult, and because I’m very much an introvert, I’ve been quiet, withdrawn, not as chirpy as usual etc. I’m sad and stressed basically.

DP’s daughter has now been here for three months and has made virtually no move to find work or another place to stay. DP really wants her to make changes but if he tries to motivate her she gets tearful. It’s been a source of conflict for them on and off since she’s been here. She says she needs a year off to recover from the relationship she had with her mum. She can’t drive and is scared of getting cabs, so if she wants to go out anywhere someone has to drive her (even if it’s just to the train station). She does keep my kids entertained but it’s mostly just been about watching box sets and playing computer games with my eldest while ignoring my youngest. Tbh I’ve been chilled about it up until the last week as it’s no real detriment to me, but her constant presence in the house is becoming grating and I feel like I’m picking up after three kids. I’ve told him I’m concerned that despite lots of help to find work/housing she’s pretty much opted out of doing it, and I can’t continue to carry her through winter here.

So these two things have combined - in the last week I’ve felt very tense due to all the work I’ve got to do in the house and the upsetting reminders. I’ve felt like just shutting myself off from everyone to get on with it. At the same time I’m trying to manage the household, work full time etc. I’ve been a bit preoccupied and definitely less sociable. Twice this week DP has asked if I want him to take his daughter out with him for the day so I can work in peace. I’ve said yes. It’s worked really well and I’ve felt much better by the evening.

The second time this happened (Wednesday), they returned from their day out to say they were both leaving as I’d created an atmosphere and they don’t feel comfortable here anymore. I’ve not heard from either of them since.

I realise I’ve been less laid back and jolly this past week, but it’s not been AT anyone in particular, I just haven’t felt able to join in the fun and games, small talk, giggles and I’ve been more robust about asking people to help clear up after themselves. I think it’s normal to have days where you feel a bit shitty.

It also feels like I’ve done an awful lot to support his daughter (I took days off to help her re-do her CV, apply for jobs, help with housing etc. I even took her with me on a family holiday I’d booked). But it feels like because I’ve had a tense week, it’s been decided I’m awful and not fit to be around.

It’s fine that they’ve gone, it’s quite a relief actually, but would anyone else have been irritated by the state of affairs? DP’s response makes me wonder if I’ve been totally unreasonable and awful, but like I said, the personality disorder can make it seem that way sometimes and I need a reality check. I’m not entirely sure I want to apologise when he gets back in touch, tbh.

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WhiteWidow001 · 05/09/2020 09:35

I think he might be in touch today: I have a day out planned with a friend, and his daughter had agreed to look after the children for me today so I could go. When he left he said to me ‘I’m not thinking of splitting up, this is not about us splitting up, I just feel like (daughter) and I are walking on eggshells here at the moment so we need to get some space’. So today wasn’t cancelled. I’ve not heard anything from them yet. Obviously I’ve made other arrangements anyway as I suspected I may not hear anything.

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LizzieMacQueen · 05/09/2020 09:37

I'd say that their pattern of behaviour (both falling out with wife/mother #1 and now you) is symptomatic of a deeper issue.

You said he has a personality disorder likely daughter has this too.

What was the relationship like between your DP and his ex. Abusive, toxic? She'll have grown up in that atmosphere.

Not saying she does or doesn't deserve sympathy but just trying to understand her behaviour.

Itsrainingnotmen · 05/09/2020 09:38

The one who needs space is you!! They are users. They want you on their terms. He doesn't get to decide if it's over op.

Haworthia · 05/09/2020 09:39

I think @PaternosterLoft has it. They’ve both been taking advantage of you.

EL8888 · 05/09/2020 09:39

YANBU. They however are! His daughter sounds lazy and entitled. “A year off” from doing what?! I doubt she was contributing much at her mothers house either. It feels like this has worked out for the best. Good luck with the move

EL8888 · 05/09/2020 09:40

@LizzieMacQueen it feels like this lm afraid

GreyGardens88 · 05/09/2020 09:43

Lol you've been massively taken advantage of by these two freeloaders. Please don't let them back into your home, change the locks.

AnotherEmma · 05/09/2020 09:44

You have absolutely nothing to apologise for.

I agree with this:
"So you’ve supported him with his mental health and you’ve supported her with housing and now you need support they’ve thrown a strop and stormed off?"

It's all completely one way, they both expect you to support them but "D"P is not supporting you at all. I think you'll be better off without him tbh.

diddl · 05/09/2020 09:45

"When he left he said to me ‘I’m not thinking of splitting up, this is not about us splitting up,"

So he's keeping his options open?

But you're not going to let him are you-you are going to get rid?

OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer · 05/09/2020 09:49

It sounds like you'll be well rid.

WhiteWidow001 · 05/09/2020 09:51

I don’t see a personality disorder in his daughter, what I see is an addiction issue (food related). She seems more like a 15 year old than a 22 year old, and she has that kind of teenaged entitlement. She’s currently still in that stage of blaming her parents for her own issues.

The relationship with her mum was definitely toxic. I know her mum outside of this as I work in the same field as her, and her mum is known at work for having a difficult pattern of behaviour with people. I shouldn’t go into too much detail, but it was more than just regular conflict; she did really need to leave and find somewhere else to live.

Yes, DP could accommodate his daughter at his place, but he can’t realistically be there at the same time. It really is tiny. She’s also scared of being alone so has resisted the suggestion so far. Now they’ve left I assume she’s staying at his place as there’s no alternative, but I have no idea where he’ll be staying. I always thought a better solution would have been for her to live at his place while he spent most of his time at mine, but like I said, she didn’t want to be alone.

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ilovethesmellofthesea · 05/09/2020 09:51

If anything this is the answer to all your problems - his daughter has moved out but you and your DP are still in a relationship. You've also got some space to figure out if you really want him after all.

On another note - I'm echoing all the PPs who say you sound like a really lovely person.

altforvarmt · 05/09/2020 09:51

@Ardnassa

You had a bit of a tense week and, after all you had done for his daughter, they decided to bugger off?! Although there are limits, any good partner in a relationship should accept that you need to take the rough with the smooth.

You had every right to feel the way you did and act the way you did. Best that you know that your DP is a fair weather friend now - doesn't sound like someone you can rely on when the chips are down.

This was exactly my thinking also.

You should be able to reach out for emotional support too. You should be able to have days when you are not so jolly.

That your "DP" would take off like this speaks volumes. It means that he expects to be able to rely on you for support, but it won't be reciprocated.

YgritteSnow · 05/09/2020 09:52

Sounds like they had a lovely bitch about you while they were out, got themselves all worked up and came back to tell you off. I'd enjoy the peace and wait for him to contact you. It's not you.

Shouldbedoing · 05/09/2020 09:53

Honestly OP, take this flounce as the gift that it is, and change the locks, call time on the relationship. You sound like a generous and caring person. Certainly not awful. Reclaim your space. It'll be much easier to keep a house 'viewing ready' with just 3 occupants. Put yourself first. He does.

WaltzfortheMars · 05/09/2020 09:55

I really don't think you have done anything wrong.

Branleuse · 05/09/2020 09:56

If neither of you want to split up, id let it blow over to some extent, but I think his daughter has made herself at home and youre right to be concerned she isnt keeping her end of the bargain.

WhiteWidow001 · 05/09/2020 09:58

My plan for the weekend is: have a lovely day out as planned with my friend. Maybe stay at hers overnight with the children. Hope he’s come back and collected at least some of their things while I’m out as I don’t want to see either of them yet. Get some space and blessed peace to focus on what I’m doing. Not let them back in afterwards.

I don’t want a massive falling out as I’m trying to keep as calm and practical as I can at the moment, but I don’t want them back here. He’ll have to sort him and her out an alternative. Luckily I’m pretty self-sufficient and I have friends I can rely on for emotional and practical support.

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tribpot · 05/09/2020 09:58

It sounds like a pressure cooker situation and the right thing for them to do was to move back out, given it is not actually their home, in order to create some space and give you some peace. However, I strongly suspect this isn't why they did it, but instead to make you feel guilty and easier to exploit when they deign to return.

So sod that for a game of soldiers. Don't allow them back, whether you continue the relationship or not.

BrowncoatWaffles · 05/09/2020 09:58

"So they were totally fine leeching off living with you as long as you were all chirpy and useful but when you had a dip and asked for a little support they buggered off?"

and

Sounds like they had a lovely bitch about you while they were out, got themselves all worked up and came back to tell you off. I'd enjoy the peace and wait for him to contact you. It's not you.

Definitely not you. So sorry you've had such a tough week and that you've been so unsupported coping with it. You sound kind and also very self aware. I'm not sure your DP or his DD are either of these things.

I know you're saying you're not seeing this as the end of the relationship, but if someone I was seeing buggered off when the chips were down I think it would make me rethink things long term.

Flowers Enjoy your day out!

Indoorcamping · 05/09/2020 09:58

So they look to you for support when they need it but when you need support they bugger off. Sounds like they bring a lot if hassle and drama to your life but i can't see what good things they bring? Your DP sounds as selfish as his daughter.

Shouldbedoing · 05/09/2020 10:00

I've just read that she's 22. I thought she was 17!!!!! RUN!!!! This will not get better. Take the gift of freedom.
(Tiny flat? That's what sofa beds are for. Send him the IKEA catalogue)

Friendsoftheearth · 05/09/2020 10:00

You have done more than enough already, and I also feel they have taken advantage to some extent as well.

I would enjoy the peace, space and distance, and consider whether you actually want this in your life. You seem very happy with your own set up, so whether you need or want him in your life is a decision for you to be made separately. You certainly have no cause to apologise.

FredaFox · 05/09/2020 10:02

Hate to say it as you still want to be with him but cut your losses
He isn’t going to change, she isn’t going to, he is enabling her. What a future she has if he treats her with cotton gloves? She either needs to toughen up and stop being a princess or seek help if it’s a mental health issue rather than behaviour

Shouldbedoing · 05/09/2020 10:03

Leave your key inside the front door and exit via the back door if possible. You don't want this pair back in the house when you return from your lovely day out.

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