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Affair aftermath - how do I 'forget' what I know?

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elettra · 08/07/2020 09:42

We are recovering from an affair; we have made the decision to stay together and I genuinely believe it's the right thing for us as individuals, and for our family. I completely understand that many people in my position would find this unconscionable and think I'm a fool, or naive, or have low self esteem but really none of that is true. This was a mistake, a huge one, but one he massively regrets. There were reasons why it happened, fault on both sides that led to it and we do believe we can recover from it.

He told me of the affair, having finished it with her, but no specifics as understandably I did not want to know. However the woman concerned (I could describe her in other terms but I will try to be polite and dignified) chose to contact me shortly thereafter out of spite and malice, and spewed out - amidst her vitriol about me and him, mainly me - a vast amount of excessively detailed information about their physical interactions, how much sexier he found her than me, where and how they had sex, derogatory comments about my physical attributes etc.

And now I know all this, I can't unknow it. It's 6 months on now but still little snippets keep floating back into my head at random times. I know it was all said to hurt, to upset me, and a lot of it was grossly exaggerated but I can't stop remembering it. I'll be in the bath, or out for a run, or with the children, and it will pop up. Or he'll compliment me, and I'll remember one of her negative comments.

How do I try and forget it? Is that even possible? Do I just need to give it more time?

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User533633 · 09/07/2020 18:34

I don't think it's up to anyone to try and talk the OP into or out of anything. I've been to counselling and even that is focused on allowing the client to come to their own decisions.

Personally , for me anyway, I think a thread like this is interesting and valuable because I know when I get upset or invested in certain ideas or opinions that could indicate an area where maybe I am vulnerable and need to do more work on myself.

That's why I'm on it anyway. I'm still coming to terms with my new life.

ShebaShimmyShake · 09/07/2020 18:36

Nobody is defending the OW, they're holding the husband responsible for his own commitment. As he should be.

OP, I hope it all goes well for you. I know it's complicated, but at the very least he needs to be taking the lead part in telling the OW to leave you alone, that it's over and that she needs to stay away.

morefun · 09/07/2020 18:37

OP, I agree that not everyone who cheats will do so again. I did it 15 years ago and would not ever do that again.

WhoamI83 · 09/07/2020 18:37

It’s a trauma response from having her trust and boundaries destroyed by her husband and exacerbated by the OW’s texts which is just a reminder that she is deeply betrayed. The intrusive thoughts will not go away because the OP is trying to bury away complete and utter human betrayal. It will never go away.

morefun · 09/07/2020 18:37

I know that's not what you were asking but just wanted to add it

User533633 · 09/07/2020 18:39

I think it is always a mistake to talk about infidelity as a secondary issue on a forum as it will always become the main issue. In my experience anyway. If the OP had talked about a non specified traumatic event that led to intrusive thoughts, it would have been a very different thread.

I think forums are really good for single issue problems ( did I just make that up?), Less good for complex issues.

GilbertMarkham · 09/07/2020 19:36

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Katrinawaves · 09/07/2020 19:43

If I had received several abusive and malicious letters from anyone, whether they’d had an affair with my partner or not, I’d feel justified in being pretty bitchy and derogatory when discussing them with others too to be fair.

Vodkacranberryplease · 09/07/2020 19:43

I think you have to face up to the fact that in order to shag her he told her a lot of unflattering things about you, including personal secrets, physical things he finds unattractive in you, and of course how shit your sex life was, how in sexy you are etc. How you had grown apart, you werent interested In him any more, he wasn't attracted to you any more. Etc etc etc. Because that is what they ALL say.

They don't say that the wife is gorgeous and sexy but they fancy something different or are pissed off because you're only shagging twice a week.

GilbertMarkham · 09/07/2020 19:47

*no respect - obviously

gypsywater · 09/07/2020 19:48

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GilbertMarkham · 09/07/2020 19:50

If I had received several abusive and malicious letters from anyone, whether they’d had an affair with my partner or not

But you wouldn't be receiving anything from them if your partner hadnt shagged them/used and abused them; that's the point.

GilbertMarkham · 09/07/2020 19:52

@gypsywater

Are you new here or are you just trying to get as much satisfaction out of that comment during the three seconds it stay up?

Anyway, thank you for the compliment.

(And it takes one to know one sweetheart).

Katrinawaves · 09/07/2020 19:53

@GilbertMarkham

If I had received several abusive and malicious letters from anyone, whether they’d had an affair with my partner or not

But you wouldn't be receiving anything from them if your partner hadnt shagged them/used and abused them; that's the point.

Well that makes it all right for her to send them then Confused

She may as well go the whole hog and boil the family pet on the stove - won’t be her fault poor low self esteem soul that she is. Seriously catch a grip

gypsywater · 09/07/2020 19:53

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Vodkacranberryplease · 09/07/2020 19:55

@elettra I don't agree that there was no love bombing (or lying) going on because her texts are angry - she's been lied to by him and she's pissed off. She had however long of hearing how wonderful she is, how sexy, how much fun, how much he loves spending time with her, and then of course all about how terrible you are. Her body has been compared to yours by him when they are naked together. Her behaviour has been favourably compared. Her personality has been compared.

And now she's thinking "what the fuck is going on here. He's said all this and now he's staying?" Snd he has told her you begged or were suicidal or threatened him with no money/children and he had no choice.

Oh and I'm deeply familiar with wealthy successful men so I'm not talking about what a completely different kind of man says or does. No one likes being made a fool of and if he's made you out to be a manipulative cow who is forcing him to stay then that would explain this.

GilbertMarkham · 09/07/2020 19:56

I have overcome various difficulties in my life, mainly by not knowing too much. I am generally happy to live in ignorance about things that if I knew might upset me.

Btw that's why posters thought your approach was "head in the sand", not because they were making up stuff about you for their own amusement.

WhoamI83 · 09/07/2020 19:58

OP is the victim fullstop. It’s a shit situation to be in and I for one know that the mind desperately wants to believe the best. Making out like the OW is the problem helps bring the husband back into the circle of trust. For me and I know it’s a totally different situation but my husband hurt me but he did it because of the nasty weed. I let him off countless times because I blamed something else not him.

elettra · 09/07/2020 20:00

I don't require sympathy nor have I requested it. And you think it's derogatory to state a fact that if you want to be well off you should earn your own money...yet the lies and nastiness she said to me, calling me names, insulting my physicality, that's NOT derogatory?!!

You couldn't make this shit up.

Oh and no romance. Well, it's possible she thought it was romantic performing hand jobs in a layby in her lunch hour. Personally I think that's pretty tawdry. And yes of course that applies as much or more to his actions.

In answer to why he was not telling her to desist, when she first contacted me he responded firmly to that effect This seemed to make matters worse, so I asked he not contact her again and dealt with it myself. I think that was the right thing to do in the circumstances. I like to try and fight my own battles.

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gypsywater · 09/07/2020 20:02

@GilbertMarkham you need to look at why you feel its OK to abuse the OP...seriously...you are nasty

Babesinthewud · 09/07/2020 20:02

@gypsywater

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I don’t think anyone is attacking the OP. I think people are simply bemused that the husband is coming out smelling of roses and unscathed in it all.

The OW clearly isn’t behaving pleasantly, but it’s because of OP’s husband (I can’t even say DH as he’s anything but a darling). The problem is, no one knows what he’s told the OW. Clearly he’s a liar and can’t be trusted.

I totally understand why the OP wouldn’t speak highly of the OW. But objectively, he’s used her and that’s the reason she’s acting like this.

All of this is happening because of him and he’s got his feet back under the table. Meanwhile the OP is suffering at the hands of the OW.

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gypsywater · 09/07/2020 20:03

Handjobs in a layby at lunch! Fuck it just gets worse! Someone will defend it tho...

GilbertMarkham · 09/07/2020 20:05

Well that makes it all right for her to send them then

I didn't say it made it right, just very likely. None of it would be happening if op's husband hadn't made it happen.

Forget the ow, if it wasnt her it would have been some other woman .. and the likelihood op would have received angry, bitter malicious Comms would be high with anyone.

That's the nature of the game, a game ops dh decided to go and play on his own .. but that she suffers for.

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