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Gone off men permanently

170 replies

Wynterbaby · 21/06/2020 21:24

I just am sick of them. Coming on here makes it worse to be fair. Society is ridden with shitty men who treat females like their servants and abuse them mentally/verbally/financially. Make their other half pick up most of their slack including parenting duties. Feel they can judge the female body and critique it when the most judgemental ones usually have a chode or additional flab themselves but we just accept them as they are.
I realise there are some good ones but I am being absolutely serious when I say I’ve met a handful of men in my entire lifetime who haven’t made me feel disgusted or uncomfortable in one way or another.
I just am at a point where I’m so aware of how superior they really do think they are and without reason.
I don’t think I can get over it and I really do feel like I’d rather be alone forever with my DD then ever deal with a mans shit ever again. I’ve been single for 2 years and it’s been absolute heaven. And coming on here reading how so many women are abused in so many ways at the hands of men makes me so angry and realise what I’m choosing is the right thing.
Does anyone feel the same or do I need therapy and a bucket of wine?

OP posts:
joystir59 · 22/06/2020 07:33

If I could be bothered I might be a lesbian but I will probably get a cat and take up knitting instead
Great that my sexuality is seen as similar to getting a cat, thanks for that!

Destroyedpeople · 22/06/2020 07:35

It was a joke really joystick. .more in ref to my own sexuality than anyone else's.
The last man I was with.... I literally should have got a vibrator instead.

joystir59 · 22/06/2020 07:35

Speaking as a lesbian I'm often bemused at best and appalled at worst at what women all to often put up with to be with men, and to pander to the male gaze.

Destroyedpeople · 22/06/2020 07:36

I know joystick it's horrifying tbh.

joystir59 · 22/06/2020 07:37

It was a joke really joystick. .more in ref to my own sexuality than anyone else's.
The last man I was with.... I literally should have got a vibrator instead

A throw away glib, unintentionally homophobic joke

Destroyedpeople · 22/06/2020 07:37

*joystir

megrichardson · 22/06/2020 07:42

Well, I don't know how this comment will be taken, but I went through a phase of being so revolted by men that I wondered if I was a lesbian so I gave lesbianism a go. Nope, I was probably unlucky but just got more emotional abuse just different. With this evidence, it looks like the problem must be me, I guess.

Destroyedpeople · 22/06/2020 07:45

Oh fgs get a grip with your 'homophobia' would you. Yes I do think I might be gay. I might have realised that finding any humour in my fucking tragic situation that I am not even going to share with you would be frowned upon. All the lesbians I have met have seemed essentially humourless. It's what put me off.

Wynterbaby · 22/06/2020 07:47

I don’t think it’s accepting defeat. I actually just think after the intimidation tactics/narcissism/coercion I and many women have experienced at some point I see men as quite weak and I don’t think there’s any coming back from that. I think actually it’s empowered me to realise I do not need that in my life and I do genuinely believe women are unstoppable and resilient and men aren’t so much (not all, but most). Men often sulk and intimidate, play games in order to get what they want. I know there are some awful women out there too but I think we all know the ratios are far, far from the same.

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TroysMammy · 22/06/2020 07:51

If I ever find myself single again I'm going to stay single. I'm not cut out for living with someone.

LotusLavender · 22/06/2020 07:52

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022828MAN · 22/06/2020 07:53

I'm happy in my relationship but I know if I found myself single I'd not be bothered to invest in another man for all the same reasons.

Wynterbaby · 22/06/2020 07:55

@TirisfalPumpkin thank you. I’m not ok about it to be honest. I feel like I can’t complain about that as it wasn’t aggressive enough to be rape. It’s like women are taught by the most part rape is being sneaked up on by a stranger in a park when actually it’s more commonly their partner or someone they know totally disrespecting their boundaries. Most men would probably just shrug that kind of condom behaviour off because many of them will do anything to work their way out of using one. It’s vile and highly unattractive at best.

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Bagelsandbrie · 22/06/2020 07:56

I’ve had terrible relationships but I’m now happily married (my third engagement and second marriage!) we’ve been together for 12 years now. We have an equal and loving relationship. You sound like my Mum, she had a string of bad relationships and really hated men with a passion. She brought me up as a single parent and I genuinely grew up to believe all men were useless pieces of crap. That just isn’t true and actually made me quite fearful and distrusting of people in general as I grew up. Just be aware of what you’re saying around your dd. It’s not healthy to grow up thinking all men are awful, it really isn’t.

OhamIreally · 22/06/2020 08:07

Thankfully the world is full of good men who respect women.

Really???? You must be living in a different world. Certainly not planet Earth.

I'm with you OP - single over 4 years, stopped dating 2 years ago and it's just lovely in my clean peaceful home without a man to tell me what I can or can't do, sulk or pressure me for sex, who would watch football all day and wee on the bathroom floor and not clean it up.

speakout · 22/06/2020 08:07

Do the women who are writing off half the human race have sons? If so are these boys also destined to be controlling rats?

speakout · 22/06/2020 08:08

Really???? You must be living in a different world. Certainly not planet Earth.

I accept nothing but respect from a partner.

OnceUponACat · 22/06/2020 08:15

Felt similar for years like you and Imd be happy single for ever if I don’t find anyone. I like my own company, that of my dc and of my friends. BUT recently I started thinking that I wouldn’t mind... so things do change.
I am in no rush though and no crappy ones and NOT in my house! Ever.

SnuggyBuggy · 22/06/2020 08:19

I also think in addition to abusive men there are loads who just don't seem to grow up. Some of its not their fault, I think high rents and property prices combined with a "gig economy" keep some people in a state of permanent adolescence. A lot of these men are OK as friends but would be hard work as romantic partners.

OhamIreally · 22/06/2020 08:31

@speakout that's great that you accept nothing but respect and I commend you for it. That is not the same thing as saying the world is full of men who respect women- which frankly is just gaslighting.

brigeo · 22/06/2020 08:31

Got to laugh at some of the optimism here.

I am married to one of the so called "good" one's, good in that he doesn't beat me, helps out with house work, provides well, hasn't had any affairs I'm aware of, comes home every night, etc. He does however watch porn on the sly, meaning he's promised me as part of a healthy respectful marriage that porn is abusive to most of the people involved in making it, and I am a feminist who can't abide it, because of its ethics. So he lies to me daily. He's also nearly 50 and tries but fails to hide the fact he's attracted to young women 18 plus, I've seen his porn collection.

He's a "good" man but he disgusts me.

BigBoosh · 22/06/2020 08:40

You may be asexual. It does't mean you can't have a rich fulfilling life.

GilbertMarkham · 22/06/2020 08:54

A good start for young women would be magazines that cover things like red flags and female sexual organs/orgasms .. as opposed to makeup and how to give the perfect blow job.

Oh and films/series that don't always end in weddings.

Things are changing slightly but nowhere near enough .. when u think of the conditioning that I grew up with in the 80s from Sam fox and Sabrina being "sexy" in music videos to Jane Austen novels and adaptions, all.focysed in marrying "well" and the big white wedding. Even satc had to end with everyone coupled up and Carrie catching her me big in marriage.

GilbertMarkham · 22/06/2020 08:55

*Mr big.

GilbertMarkham · 22/06/2020 08:56

Honestly looking back the message of my entire childhood and adolescence from media was "you have to be sexy and beautiful for men", "you have to be "good at" sex".

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