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Struggling

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Newtothis5643 · 08/06/2020 13:10

Hi, I'm new to this site and only came across it as a friend of mine sent me to a link that I read and it has taken me a bit of time but I have decided to pick up the courage to create a new thread and get a few opinions, as you seem like a nice supportive bunch.
Just over a week ago, my partner of nearly 2 years, who I felt completely secure and in love with, literally packed his bags and his daughters and put a key under the door and left me.
The thing I am really struggling with, is that we hadn't lived together but he was going through a bereavement and was struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and asked that we go into lockdown together in my house (which I also hadn't been living in may I add, as I was staying with parents). We got there and quickly started making it lovely - he was really committed to making it a lovely home, he was actively doing things in the garden, making suggestions to make it a nicer home. We were going round stores together to buy things for the house and he suggested buying a photo frame and getting some pics up of the 3 of us. He was listing all of the things that he was going to do and going to help me with. He would message me when we weren't together to check that I had done things - he encouraged me to get people round to decorate and do works on the house - we bought tools for him to do the works better - all sorts. We were very active sexually, so didn't see any problems there. When we had his daughter, I had a great relationship with her - I went out of my way to buy things in that they both individually liked. I put them first and listened to a lot of his emotional childhood issues - but we had deep conversations about things and he knew what was right or wrong. He had also helped me at the beginning of our relationship, with an abusive ex who had really torn me apart, where I had been cheated on, had to cancel my wedding, had to buy him out of a house and all sorts of trauma - he would comment often about how awful that was and so I felt reassured that he knew I had been through hell and was finally in a loving and supportive relationship. He also talked about having to be careful with having a child and he hadn't introduced her to anyone before and we had a great relationship - he even said he noticed how much more grown up she would be with me etc. We had also had conversations, where he knew that my concern was that I was building a relationship with the two of them and that God forbid anything did go wrong, that I would love her too and he always reassured that even if something happened to him, he wanted me to be part of her life. He seemed to emotionally mature and I never in a million years, thought that he could a) leave me but b) do it in such a way that was so unexpected, it literally has created panic attacks and shock in me, in a way I can't describe. We had an appointment the day he left, to go and view things that he had booked in and we were planning in the morning to get ready to go and he flipped out over nothing and I said calm down, I'll go for a walk for 5 minutes. (I assumed he was stressed at going back to work etc). he text me while I was walking to say the key was under the mat and that he couldn't do it. I asked him to please come back and talk and that we could get through anything together if we talked and not to sabotage things. He said it had made him realise he couldn't live with anyone and that he was glad it had happened and just put sorry.
No consideration for the hurt he would be putting me through or for the plans we had. We were even trying for a baby of our own because he had said he wanted a family with me and that it was crazy that no one had ever made me a mum.
He was even talking the night before about me and his daughter doing some baking and I was going to take her back to her mums while he was at work. He seemed really happy in the house and even referred to it as a bubble and that he didn't want to go back to work because he couldn't be there to keep doing the routine he had created there (his work is a bit of a distance so he would only be coming on a weekend). There is so much I could say but, he had a great relationship with my family and we had so many special occassions together and he even said to me recently that he had to be grateful to my ex in a way because otherwise we wouldn't be together. I don't think I took him for granted in any way and if anything, I appreciated him so much, that I always made the effort.
We talked and text all the time, so it's really feeling odd not being able to tell him things - he was so interested in my work, my family, my friends - everything.
I didn't reply to his text, because I was so gobsmacked I didn't know what there was to say and felt that I had to have a bit of self respect, with him doing it in such a reckless way and that it was obvious from my previous messages that I wanted to talk and wanted to be with him. He knows that I will be struggling to sleep and eat as he knows how I am, so I find it so utterly cold. I literally feel like they have both died because I walk around the house and there are reminders of them both everywhere. I can't seem to snap out of it but am determined not to message him because I think on this occasion he should swallow his pride and apologise or at least do the decent thing and explain what the hell happened. He said he couldn't deal with small things as they annoyed him too much - but I have no idea what these small things are and how they could be worth throwing away all of the amazing big things we had together.
Feel like I'm going slightly mad to be honest - cannot concentrate, cannot breathe properly half the time and can't stop the constant churning. I haven't been able to open any whatsapp or social media for days and I know he will have seen I haven't been online but I just can't face seeing any profile changes or anything else.
His daughter was also sending things to our group whatsapp and I was politely replying but then I felt like it wasn't fair for him to just be off the hook and me acting like nothing had happened when I had heard nothing from him and he wasn't responding on the group.
I don't really know what I expect anyone to say but it's slightly therapeutic just being able to type this.
Broken hearted doesn't even come close - although I never thought anyone could do something as bad to me as my ex, this feels so much worse, as there is no preparation and I can't at the moment look back and see any bad in him.
Any thoughts appreciated and if not, thanks for listening.

OP posts:
Newtothis5643 · 05/08/2020 14:59

I did and for a week or so, it was always really nice. Then he fell out with me again for no reason at all - in fact something quite awful happened to us both, but he got angry with me, so I am left in shock again. And can't figure out what it's all about.

And I know you will all think just get a grip and move on but for now, I am where I am with it - I'm not unrealistic in my head, I know not to expect anything to change now but I've read so many books, listened to all the podcasts and videos and nothing helps - in fact it ends up making me feel angry that it's somehow my fault for either attracting it to myself with the law of attraction/universe or that I am too caring or giving and I am just a bit fed up of it all. So I am just being me and not trying to force myself to feel any different - sorry if that sounds awful - I don't mean to be ungrateful or to sound like a brat, I am just completely deflated, seem to be falling out with some people closest to me and it's because I am feeling the way I am and it's not their fault. I just have no patience anymore and feel I can't get anything right at the moment and can't make anyone happy, so am best when I just don't speak.

I will take some time to watch the video you have mentioned later as I guess anything is worth a shot at this rate - thank you - sorry I must sound like a mad woman, I think the lack of sleep is starting to get to me - think this is week 10.

Thank you for writing to me and for being kind x

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Menopausalgoddess · 05/08/2020 15:45

Oh bless you. I won't say anything else advice wise, I know what it's like when your head is just spinning around and around. Well I'll be thinking of you and at some point it will resolve one way or another. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed it's sooner rather than later for you. x

Newtothis5643 · 05/08/2020 16:32

Oh thank you - I didn't mean to push back on advice, I think my head just hurts. I really do appreciate you reaching out and sending me the link.
Thanks so much I hope so too x

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Sssloou · 15/08/2020 23:31

How are things going for you right now OP?

Have you got more support from family and friends in real life?

I think upthread that you said you had known him for a long time as a family friend.

Can you think back to those days and remember anything that you may have felt or known about him?

Why is he living with his parents at 40? Is that just a temporary measure or has he financial issues?

HullabalooToo · 16/08/2020 00:05

Pretty much what happened to me a few years ago. Came to conclusion he was a narc. Took me ages to get over it.

Newtothis5643 · 17/08/2020 09:42

@Sssloou hi - thanks for your message.
I'm not feeling great to be honest. There has been quite a lot of game playing over the last few weeks - but with no real substance - don't really understand what's behind it as neither of us get anything out of it and now it seems to have gone a bit quiet again. I'm feeling let down and disappointed and upset. I saw him on Thursday on my walk and sent a message asking if I could say hello to his daughter - he said it can't have been him as he wasn't picking her up until the next day. I know it was him because I saw his car parked up too - I didn't see her. I didn't reply to him - I felt let down that he didn't even offer for me to say hello to her over the weekend at some point and he obviously doesn't want to see me. It just hurts a hell of a lot and I don't know why he keeps coming upto where I walk if he doesn't want to see me.

I can't think of anything from over the years as he was always lovely - the good guy that everyone liked. Nothing bad to say about him.

He lives at home I think for convenience. He doesn't want to live with anyone he says ever. His mum does everything for him. He can't cook or even use a washing machine. Plus he then has people on hand when he has his daughter. They have a really big house so he can get the best of both worlds - have his own space as if he lives on his own but have all the other stuff provided. That's my guess - not what he has said himself.

He always made out he was going to get somewhere for himself but was investing his money instead as there was just him and then made me feel he wanted to do it with me as it was to do it together.

I just want to cry x

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Newtothis5643 · 17/08/2020 09:44

@HullabalooToo - I am sorry you have gone through this too - it's the worst experience of my life.

If I look at the person right now - yes I would say he is a narc and I don't even recognise that I am talking about the same person.

If I took the person from my life that I am in love with - he is not a narc.

Pretty confusing. x

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Sssloou · 17/08/2020 10:29

I am sorry things are still so tough for you. It’s good that you can sense game playing - or as others would call it emotional abuse / gaslighting / manipulation / a escalating your pain to continue to hurt you deeply.

What do you think you need to do?

It would be a kindness to withdraw from the DC - as he is using her to hurt you and she is getting hurt as well.

Might be something in here that you recognise:

www.google.com/amp/s/theawarenesscentre.com/vulnerable-narcissist/amp/

Does he have a career? Long term friendships?

Newtothis5643 · 17/08/2020 11:36

@Sssloou Thank you.
I just can't shift the sadness - it's not that I'm unrealistic and think that any of this is acceptable, it's that I don't understand what brought it on because I have had no answers. It's that I don't understand if he would want to try to fix things but is too stubborn to do so, or if he actually hates me.

It's a sadness for what I believed I had - that I absolutely cherished and believed in. It wasn't perfect all the time but I never thought either of us would give up on it and we didn't have any problems or arguments and nothing actually happened. Just like a massive over reaction that hasn't been discussed. I just want to turn back the clock, have a chance to work at stuff like other people.

I just don't know how to feel happy and when people make suggestions about doing stuff for me, it makes me really angry and it's not their fault.

I don't know what I should do...maybe send a letter so I have my say and then stop thinking about it. I don't know - pros and cons to that I guess but I need to do something x

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HullabalooToo · 17/08/2020 13:01

You sound just like I was.
So many questions but....you will never get the answers from him that 1. Get you back together or 2. Give you closure. Getting back with him will cause so much more heartache...and he will ditch you again in the same heartless way because he’s projecting his feelings for himself onto you. He’s damaged in some way and you can’t fix him. He can’t be fixed full stop. Any ongoing interaction you have with him will keep you down where you are at the moment.
It took me months to get over a relatively short relationship, and that was with absolutely no contact. I had panic attacks off the back of it. Counselling helped a bit.

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