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Newtothis5643 · 08/06/2020 13:10

Hi, I'm new to this site and only came across it as a friend of mine sent me to a link that I read and it has taken me a bit of time but I have decided to pick up the courage to create a new thread and get a few opinions, as you seem like a nice supportive bunch.
Just over a week ago, my partner of nearly 2 years, who I felt completely secure and in love with, literally packed his bags and his daughters and put a key under the door and left me.
The thing I am really struggling with, is that we hadn't lived together but he was going through a bereavement and was struggling with anxiety and panic attacks and asked that we go into lockdown together in my house (which I also hadn't been living in may I add, as I was staying with parents). We got there and quickly started making it lovely - he was really committed to making it a lovely home, he was actively doing things in the garden, making suggestions to make it a nicer home. We were going round stores together to buy things for the house and he suggested buying a photo frame and getting some pics up of the 3 of us. He was listing all of the things that he was going to do and going to help me with. He would message me when we weren't together to check that I had done things - he encouraged me to get people round to decorate and do works on the house - we bought tools for him to do the works better - all sorts. We were very active sexually, so didn't see any problems there. When we had his daughter, I had a great relationship with her - I went out of my way to buy things in that they both individually liked. I put them first and listened to a lot of his emotional childhood issues - but we had deep conversations about things and he knew what was right or wrong. He had also helped me at the beginning of our relationship, with an abusive ex who had really torn me apart, where I had been cheated on, had to cancel my wedding, had to buy him out of a house and all sorts of trauma - he would comment often about how awful that was and so I felt reassured that he knew I had been through hell and was finally in a loving and supportive relationship. He also talked about having to be careful with having a child and he hadn't introduced her to anyone before and we had a great relationship - he even said he noticed how much more grown up she would be with me etc. We had also had conversations, where he knew that my concern was that I was building a relationship with the two of them and that God forbid anything did go wrong, that I would love her too and he always reassured that even if something happened to him, he wanted me to be part of her life. He seemed to emotionally mature and I never in a million years, thought that he could a) leave me but b) do it in such a way that was so unexpected, it literally has created panic attacks and shock in me, in a way I can't describe. We had an appointment the day he left, to go and view things that he had booked in and we were planning in the morning to get ready to go and he flipped out over nothing and I said calm down, I'll go for a walk for 5 minutes. (I assumed he was stressed at going back to work etc). he text me while I was walking to say the key was under the mat and that he couldn't do it. I asked him to please come back and talk and that we could get through anything together if we talked and not to sabotage things. He said it had made him realise he couldn't live with anyone and that he was glad it had happened and just put sorry.
No consideration for the hurt he would be putting me through or for the plans we had. We were even trying for a baby of our own because he had said he wanted a family with me and that it was crazy that no one had ever made me a mum.
He was even talking the night before about me and his daughter doing some baking and I was going to take her back to her mums while he was at work. He seemed really happy in the house and even referred to it as a bubble and that he didn't want to go back to work because he couldn't be there to keep doing the routine he had created there (his work is a bit of a distance so he would only be coming on a weekend). There is so much I could say but, he had a great relationship with my family and we had so many special occassions together and he even said to me recently that he had to be grateful to my ex in a way because otherwise we wouldn't be together. I don't think I took him for granted in any way and if anything, I appreciated him so much, that I always made the effort.
We talked and text all the time, so it's really feeling odd not being able to tell him things - he was so interested in my work, my family, my friends - everything.
I didn't reply to his text, because I was so gobsmacked I didn't know what there was to say and felt that I had to have a bit of self respect, with him doing it in such a reckless way and that it was obvious from my previous messages that I wanted to talk and wanted to be with him. He knows that I will be struggling to sleep and eat as he knows how I am, so I find it so utterly cold. I literally feel like they have both died because I walk around the house and there are reminders of them both everywhere. I can't seem to snap out of it but am determined not to message him because I think on this occasion he should swallow his pride and apologise or at least do the decent thing and explain what the hell happened. He said he couldn't deal with small things as they annoyed him too much - but I have no idea what these small things are and how they could be worth throwing away all of the amazing big things we had together.
Feel like I'm going slightly mad to be honest - cannot concentrate, cannot breathe properly half the time and can't stop the constant churning. I haven't been able to open any whatsapp or social media for days and I know he will have seen I haven't been online but I just can't face seeing any profile changes or anything else.
His daughter was also sending things to our group whatsapp and I was politely replying but then I felt like it wasn't fair for him to just be off the hook and me acting like nothing had happened when I had heard nothing from him and he wasn't responding on the group.
I don't really know what I expect anyone to say but it's slightly therapeutic just being able to type this.
Broken hearted doesn't even come close - although I never thought anyone could do something as bad to me as my ex, this feels so much worse, as there is no preparation and I can't at the moment look back and see any bad in him.
Any thoughts appreciated and if not, thanks for listening.

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cheeseaddict420 · 20/06/2020 15:18

Hi OP. You are reminding me so much of something a really close friend went through. @Musicforsmorks is right though - some people are just cold and manipulative, and you are in danger of really internalizing this 'story'.

My friend was with a guy for about a year an a half, they were really in tune, in touch all day long, he said he'd never met anyone like her, she was amazing, etc etc. Its not quite the same in that he didn't just leave. He just went very cold and distant, and when my friend questioned him on it he just said he wasn't ready to have a relationship. Well that was a surprise to her cause in her mind they had been exclusive for some time. she asked him if he wanted to end it and he said 'end what? this is just a casual thing' so she 'ends' it, thinking he is having some kind of breakdown or something, puzzled endlessly over what could be wrong, made every excuse in the book for him. She asked to meet him and he was apologetic, saying 'look I just can't ok, I just can't' and she thought that he was saying that oh he was just so messed up and he couldnt put it on her, and he was putting her first by letting her go, etc etc. That they had become so close there is no way he wouldnt come back.

Well he didn't. We saw him in a pub about 6 months later and he tried to blank us until I walked up to him directly and said hello to him in front of his friends. Again she thought he would get back in touch. He didn't.

The simple fact was that he was an arsehole. And it just took her a very long time to see it. There were red flags everywhere that I would try to discuss with her, but she wouldn't hear it. she refused to hear a bad word against him for months. The sex was great and she was totally dicknotized (think hypnotized, but by cock). Its only now, more than a year later, that she is willing to accept that he was an arsehole who pretty much just used her, for sex, emotional support, all on his terms.

She is a person who gives and gives - you sound similar. He liked the feeling she gave him, but he didn't actually want her I think. She was just so willing to go along with what he wanted and she just couldnt fathom that he was actually just a bad person. He might have had some troubles of his own, but whatever - you don't treat people like that, just going cold, or in your case - just leaving out of the blue! Especially people you are in a relationship with.

She accepts that he was a dick now and that she got fooled. I hope in future you can accept that as well. He is not coming back. I'm really sorry. I hope you find peace.

litterbird · 21/06/2020 15:58

@Newtothis5643.....just checking in on you and hope you are ok?

Newtothis5643 · 21/06/2020 19:40

Hi - thanks for checking in.
I’m trying my best to keep going but it’s hard. I’m walking loads. It’s sort of the only momentum that keeps me going and helps me slightly cos I’m out & im thinking but I’m not moping.
But today I met a few friends for a picnic. It was so nice of them but I really struggled. I was putting such a brave face on and just needed to get away. It’s like my chest and head were going crazy. I was getting really irritable and I don’t even know why, they were trying to make me laugh and be nice and I just felt trapped. How weird is that!
I’m back to councilling in the morning and seeing another friend for coffee. So i know it’s something I have to deal with but I’ve gone from being very social to wanting to be on my own

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litterbird · 21/06/2020 21:06

Ok that can be a normal reaction. I remember my friend took me out for the day to the local mall and I started to freak inside and just wanted to be home on my own and escape the normality of life that everyone seemed to be having. My friend was really understanding and I just said to her 'take me home please'. She did and I just curled up on the sofa for the rest of the day. I just needed to be with my thoughts and feelings and wasn't ready to go out. This phase will pass in time. Just accept that is how you are feeling right now. It will be ok xx

Gutterton · 21/06/2020 21:33

Walking is good, keep that up. Well done going out with friends for a picnic - that was a big effort - it might have been v uncomfortable but it wasn’t impossible - it will be easier next time. KoKo

Newtothis5643 · 21/06/2020 22:00

Thank you both - it’s reassuring to hear that this is normal. I was a bit shocked cos I just couldn’t stand it and was so relieved to leave. I have never gone to bed so early but can’t even face watching tv. It’s mad!

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AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 21/06/2020 22:26

Hi I was just wondering how you were doing also and I was about to check in. It's totally normal to want to hide away and lick your wounds in private and not want to exhaust yourself trying to act presentable around friends. The going out walking is really good. Are you eating? X

AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 25/06/2020 19:33

Are you still there OP? I really hope you're okay x

Newtothis5643 · 25/06/2020 23:57

@AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit
Hi - sorry, I missed your last message somehow.
Thanks for understanding. I think it’s exactly that, I’m preferring to lick my wounds in private and I’m even to the point where I don’t tell people how sad I feel anymore, as it’s not good for them and it’s not doing anything for me. So now I just go through the motions each day; work, walking, reiki, walking, meditation, work, walking, reiki....

I am eating - I am very particular about my food. I the lowest weight I think I’ve ever been in my life but I’m eating but very clean - fish, veg, salad. Not craving any of the other stuff...I feel better for it though. I’m not worried as I know I’m getting plenty of nutrients down me and I always tend to lose weight during stress than put it on. And I think my body is happier getting all the good stuff and not missing any of the processed stuff, so it’s a bit of a detox.

The worst is the nights, they truly haunt me...but I’ve always been that way inclined so I shouldn’t be surprised. It will take time and it will be a breakthrough when I get through a night.

I’m being optimistic in some ways - I’m trusting the process and hoping for the best....I do have to realign my thoughts and keep getting myself on track but all the reading is helping.

Hope you are all okay! My new friends who I guess I’ll never know really but will always admire and have gratitude for!!

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AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 26/06/2020 07:03

Good to hear you're "okay" OP like you say... just one day at a time. We are here whenever you want to write anything down x

Newtothis5643 · 26/06/2020 08:30

Thank you - that means a lot.
I will keep you posted of any developments but hope to make it more positive. A lot of people are sending me messages wanting me to hate him and have anger and call him names but you know, I can’t hate him because I love him. And I’m not angry because I’m just not and actually it doesn’t do anything for me to feel angry. I keep sending love to him to open up his heart. Maybe I’m naive. But I prefer to send love than to sit slagging him off....x

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Gutterton · 26/06/2020 08:55

Everyone grieves in their own way at their own pace.

You are doing what works for you after being totally blindsided from being in such a settled loving relationship (in your mind at least) and then being so cruelly abandoned. This has totally turned you inside out and threatened your sense of reality and identity.

But YOU weren’t living a fake, false existence all of the nice stuff happened. No one knows if he was authentic and believed and felt all of this all of the time and then just flipped out or if he was holding back not fully committed through out. Only he does. Or maybe even he doesn’t know.

Your feelings are 100% real and valid. If you don’t feel anger with him, just pain and confusion and hurt - then that’s what you deal with.

You would only be naive if you wished he would come back and it would all work out (because he could and it wouldn’t longer term).

You are doing it in the way that works for you. You are a month on now and it would be good to track where you are emotionally and functionally from the early days and weeks. If you are really floundering and struggling maybe see your GP.

You have put in a lot of coping mechanisms which is v resourceful of you and these seem to help you to tread water.

Choose the family and friends who are able to listen to you - not dictate how you should feel.

Happynow001 · 26/06/2020 13:08

I just don't get, like you say, why he would involve his daughter like that as she will no doubt feel the loss too.
A man who would behave this way, with such little conscience to you, after being so mentally close and making such future plans with you and then so quickly be on a dating site would, surely, have no conscience about using his daughter.

Gutterton yes he’s gone back to his parents. He probably won’t have told them. When we left for lockdown he said he was going for a week because he is never just straight with them. Supposedly because of all the guilt he feels about abandoning them and depriving them of seeing his daughter who they are used to seeing every week.
And there you are.

Newtothis5643 · 26/06/2020 14:37

Hopefully he’s spending this time working on himself, as I don’t think it’s as black and white that he has no conscience. I think he has a massive one and that’s why he’s got himself into this mess...

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AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 10/07/2020 09:44

Hello OP been a while now, how are you doing is the sun shining at all yet? Even if just for a minute? X

OnceUponAMidnightBeery · 14/07/2020 02:10

@Newtothis5643 How are you?

Newtothis5643 · 14/07/2020 02:15

Hey - not good. I’m sorry to say it but I think I’m worse....sorry I’ve not replied I just couldn’t bring myself to tell you all....

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Lifeisconfusing · 14/07/2020 03:15

Op it will get easier I know you can’t see it right now!! I feel your frustration he’s a coward for walking away with no explanation. I know you can’t see it now but you have dodged a bullet because he has 0 respect for you and his little girl will be missing you (I hope she at least got an explanation) I think I would be tempted to write one last txt to him (to give you closure) if he ignores you then so be it but at least you will know. Once you have an explanation or some sort of closure you will hopefully be able to see some clarity and to start building you life back up without him. (Remember you have seen the true colours and deserve more) would you really like a baby with a man who doesn’t respect there mammy I don’t think you would want this for your daughter.

You sound like your in your 30s early 40s so your far to young to be worrying about being lonely and childless!! Don’t take second best even for a baby.

You sound lovely,kind,empathetic,respectful etc etc you haven’t done anything wrong. Give your self time to grieve then dust yourself off lady!!

You are strong you are worthy and you are enough!!! Take each day at a time pm me if you want to chat. Sending love 💓

AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 14/07/2020 08:42

I know anything you do at the moment will be Plan B, but have you thought of taking yourself away? Maybe even one of those "discovery" well being trips similar to rehab I think they are in places like Thailand etc. Depending on your budget of course but even if you go hiking in Wales or something it might be something to look forward to? X

AWiseWomanOnceSaidFuckThisShit · 14/07/2020 08:42

Also please don't text him!

OnceUponAMidnightBeery · 18/07/2020 21:03

@Newtothis5643 please keep talking to us here if you want to.

It will get easier but there will be many ups and downs. There’s always someone here with advice or just a listening ear if you need it. Flowers

Newtothis5643 · 27/07/2020 11:10

Hi All,
Sorry I have been quiet - I feel embarrassed and a bit ashamed of myself for still feeling so down and anxious all the time. It's literally like the weeks go by so slowly and so the days feel even slower.
I have in the last week bumped into him a few times - it's so strange - part of me is glad and part of me confused.
I wonder what it's all about! And then I wonder if I've just gone completely mad!
Hope you are all doing okay! xxx

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Menopausalgoddess · 05/08/2020 09:57

Hi, I've not commented on your post previously, but I have followed your story and I have wondered about how you're doing over the weeks. Anyway, I hope you're feeling better, it's really tough but you will get though it. x

Newtothis5643 · 05/08/2020 12:00

Thanks @Menopausalgoddess kind of you to check in.
I'd say I'm going through the motions at the moment, I am unable to switch my emotions off and am not able to come to a resolution in my mind as to what this has all been about. I know people have spent time offering amazing advise and reasons but nothing sits right for me at the moment as an accurate explanation because of the person I know from the relationship - so I probably sound like a bit of a broken record or in denial but, I can't remove my gut feel on this.

So I don't really have any expectations or solutions - just hanging in there and taking the days as I find them.

Thank you again, it's nice to know people care as it's hard to actually talk about this stuff, even with the closest of friends at the moment, I would say I am avoiding conversations and a lot of people still don't even know what's happened. As much as possible as I need to process it for myself - so being able to be anonymous on here is really helpful. x

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Menopausalgoddess · 05/08/2020 12:45

Did you speak to him when you bumped into him?

Yes, it's so difficult when it comes to this sort as thing as matters of the heart are so complex and the truth is that you'll probably never know for sure what it was that happened. I hope your heart can catch up soon and can let go. When a similar thing happened to me, after a while of suffering I saw a video on how the hurting is prolonged by holding on to hope and that letting go of all hope will actually speed up the healing. It sounded completely counter to what I wanted to do but I was prepared to give anything a try and actually it gave me more relief than anything else I tried.

There was also a great youtube video by Guy Winch on YouTube called 'How to Fix a Broken Heart'. That also really helped. x