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Found out fiancé has been cheating on me with prostitutes through most of our relationship. Absolutely devastated!

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 12:56

I thought my relationship was solid F(29) M(31). We had a healthy and incredibly happy relationship. We rarely argued and when we did we would be able to communicate effectively in order to get past it.

We were best friends we would frequently stay up talking into the small hours on a Friday night because we loved each other’s company so much.

My fiancé was the most loving dedicated men id ever met. Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day. Always tactile and hugging me. We were supposed to be getting married (if cornona would allow) in August.

The only issue was the sex which I tried to fix continuously. We had a good sex life at the beginning it was very passionate and the most exciting I’d experienced initially but it kept decreasing. It went down to once every 2 weeks. (I have a very high sex drive so this wasn’t good)

I always tried to engage in communication about our sex life. It was such a shame how much it had decreased. I have always been a bit of a sexually submissive and had wanted to tell him.

But my attempted communication about sex was always shut down. I was fobbed off and told that he had a low drive and wasn’t that into sex.

I was told that he was faking it at the beginning to please me but that he couldn’t keep it up. I felt like he thought I was an over-sexed pervert.

When I tried to initiate sex I was turned down. When we did have sex he would loose his erection. I bought his excuse hook line and sinker.

A few days ago I was on his phone searching for an email from the company who are providing the decorations for our wedding and I came across an email from the website adult work.

When I opened it up it said ‘this email is not spam you have received it because you have an active account on adult work.com’. I googled it and it was a prostitution website. My heart stopped. My world collapsed at that moment.

I tried to sign in and got his password resent to the email so I could. When I logged in I went into his bookings and saw that he had booked prostitutes.

My fiancé was having a nap so I woke him up and asked him to come into the living room. I showed him what I had found. His face said it all!

He admitted to paying for sex around every two months. He said it had started about 7 months into our relationship and the last time was February this year! I threw him out immediately. The hurt, pain and shock was too much to bare.

Since then and me calming down somewhat he has come round to speak to me about it and answer all of my questions (I have many!). I would say we’ve spoken for at least 40 hours combined.

He said after he’d fallen in love with me he couldn’t see me sexually. He said it was like a switch had turned off and I entered into the not sexual category alongside his mum and sisters.

He said he has been introduced to prostitutes about the age of 19 by older men he new who would take him to brothels after nights out. He said initially he felt uncomfortable but they normalised it to him. He then started paying for sex on his own and had done this all through his 20s (he’s 31 now).

He claimed to only have paid for sex while with me because he wanted to have sex with me but couldn’t. I thought ‘what a load of shit’ but when I logged into adult work and looked at the women. They all looked like me. One frighteningly so much she could be me!

Why would he pay for sex with someone who looks like me rather than actually having sex with me? My confusion grew.

He said he couldn’t. His body and mind wouldn’t allow him to. He said I was his princess and he couldn’t think of me sexually in his mind.

I asked him what he liked sexually. He admitted to liking a power dynamic. Ironically the same power dynamic I like but had always felt I wasn’t allowed to bring up.

He said the power dynamic made him feel like he was abusing me or degrading me and that I was his angel that he couldn’t do that to me. He told me he had put me on a pedestal and that he wouldn’t even allow himself to think of me that way.

I have always been uncomfortable with prostitution (my own personal belief) but I feel there is a lot of exploitation. The idea of him doing degrading things to women he paid made me feel sick and made him seem like a monster.

I told him this he cried and said he was a monster and that the only reason he could do it was because he’d dehumanised the women.

He told me the act of buying sex he had compartmentalised. As if it wasn’t real. He told me he almost saw it as a virtual reality world. But that deep down he understood the severity of his actions as the guilt was heavy. (But as I pointed out not enough guilt to confess or stop.)

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

The day I found out he phoned all his friends and family and told them what he’d done. One of his sisters has disowned him. He rang our church and told them what he’d done and asked them to help me as I was distraught.

He was also inconsolable so one of the pastors ended up staying on the phone to him for about an hour. The church then contacted me and offered their support.

He has started therapy. And he phones me up or comes round to visit to tell me what was discussed and what insight it has given him into his actions.

He apologises continuously. He has assured me it was nothing to do with me and that I am perfect (to which I always reply no one is perfect’). But human nature is to feel inadequate now which is what I do feel.

I feel like him paying for it over me shows how undesirable I was. But then he keeps reminding me of the women he choose and how they resembled me.

He says I couldn’t have done anymore and that it’s nothing to do with me and that it was his own emotional issues and his own choice to be unfaithful.

He cries and says he will never forgive himself for the betrayal but also for exploiting the women he paid for. He has said that he will support me whatever I want. That he wants to try again and stay together but that he understands the severity of what he’s done and understands that I may never want him back.

It’s all very overwhelming and I am going through such a roller coaster of emotion I don’t know what I want and am not going to rush my decision.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? What they would do? Or what they got from what I’ve written?

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Bluebell0724 · 04/06/2020 10:40

@OoohTheStatsDontLie yes this is exactly what I’d said to him that there is clearly so much of a problem here I don’t see how it could be so easily overcome. Doesn’t seem logical. But he was insistent that it’s been overcome because his sexual desires have been transferred over to me. So he said ‘my body doesn’t lie’ it’s you I desire now

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Bunnymumy · 04/06/2020 10:41

Eeee...I just picture the snake from the jungle book going 'trusssssst in meeeeee'.

Bluebell0724 · 04/06/2020 10:42

@quicknameymcnamechange yes you’ve hit the nail on the head. Even though it was all a facade I didn’t realise at the time and up until a week ago I was a very happy bride to be wondering how everything had worked out so perfectly. It’s a lot to take in

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Bluebell0724 · 04/06/2020 10:43

@GilbertMarkham well this is what is undeniable. There is a unanimous verdict. To ignore this would be insanity.

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Bluebell0724 · 04/06/2020 10:50

@RedToothBrush yes I saw him in the morning yesterday. It was an uncomfortable meet. I had obviously created this thread on Tuesday and not really been expecting the replies I got. If I’m honest I was expecting a few like that but because of his reaction and willingness to change, accept responsibility, remorse etc I was expecting some people to say that shows he is capable of change.

Initially the comments were too much for me. Because if I’m honest I didn’t want to let go of the life I thought I had. But yesterday I woke up with a slightly different mindset. Read through the comments again and when he came over so we could go for a walk. My questioning reiterated what many of the comments had said. He could see a change in me as I was holding no prisoners at all.

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Bluebell0724 · 04/06/2020 10:52

@DameFanny thank you for the kind words 💖

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Bluebell0724 · 04/06/2020 10:54

@wildone84 yes I’m struggling a lot of I’m honest and talking to someone would be helpful thanks for the kind words 💖

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GilbertMarkham · 04/06/2020 11:01

One thing he did say during our conversation is he would like to tie me up and leave me there and go and watch the boxing. Which I thought was odd. In my head being tied up is linked to sexual pleasure and being pleasured while being tied up not just left there! Don’t get it

It's a BDSM thing.

The sub in the scenario waits unable to do anything, while the "Dom" tajes their sweet time doing whatever they like at their leisure and the sub is completely prone and has to wait until they deign to free them or pay them attention. It's completely about power and humiliation.

I've seen it in s stupid erotic novel with a BDSM slant (one in which the "hero" allows the heroine the privileged of rubbing herself to climax against his boot on the ground after she's submitted sufficiently, there was also a lot of fellatio and deep throat in that novel incidentally. It is the sort of thing I tried reaching when I got bored with standard erotic historical novels and then thought "what the fk am I reading, I'm not into this?" and discarded it).

It's definitely getting into a subset, fetish area of sexuality that goes beyond mild domination into humiliation, degradation etc.

That's what your ex is into ... Looks like he should find one of the few women who are also into it (and I'd have my concerns about their mental state) or stick to exploiting sex workers.

Bluebell0724 · 04/06/2020 11:02

Thank you everyone for advice I have read through them all and they are all really helpful thank you so much!

I have told him I don’t want to continue the relationship he said he respected my decision and understood why I want to leave him but asked me if I’m sure and assured me if I stayed with him he would do everything within his power to respect me and treat me how I should be treated.

He was sobbing and didn’t stay on the phone long after I’d ended it. He has said he will deal with all the issues with flat so I don’t have any more stress. So he appears to be respecting my decision.

It’s very hard this is taking a lot of strength that I don’t really have at the moment. But it’s got to be done. Just hope this feeling that’s draining me will lessen some time soon

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Bunnymumy · 04/06/2020 11:05

Well done for ending it op. Just, keep your guard up. Don't go over there alone for any reason...

And be aware that he may change his approach at the drop of a hat. Rn he might be hoping to keep you as a friend so he can slowly worm his way back in. When he realises you wont allow that however, you may see another approach.

Keep safe!

GilbertMarkham · 04/06/2020 11:05

I think you need to stop engaging with him now.

It is only useful to a certain point.

Don't get caught up in trying to analyse him.

You need distance from him now.

It will be painful but you have to do it. Its because of him this pain is being inflicted on you, don't forget that for a second.

GilbertMarkham · 04/06/2020 11:07

I think he would have continued using prostitutes to get the degrading sex he enjoys throughout your marriage if not caught.

And also because it's his habit, his default.

GilbertMarkham · 04/06/2020 11:11

It’s very hard this is taking a lot of strength that I don’t really have at the moment. But it’s got to be done. Just hope this feeling that’s draining me will lessen some time soon

FlowersFlowers

You are doing so well op.

It will be hard and you'll have up days and down days but you will be ok.

Time is your friend.

Take a day at a time and don't think too much about it.

You are absolutely doing the right thing, the only thing to do.

backseatcookers · 04/06/2020 11:24

You've done so well to process all this and you've made absolutely the right decision. He doesn't deserve any more of your time and it will never be easier to leave him than it is now, before marriage and kids. Well done Thanks

QuentinWinters · 04/06/2020 11:41

Well done op. Detach as much as you can now because he will probably try to push different buttons to get you to do what he wants and you don't want to give him the opportunity.

wizzbangfizz · 04/06/2020 11:58

You are being amazingly strong OP! He on the other hand is absolutely disgusting, plenty of women and men enjoy the dominance aspect of sex but from his standpoint I do think it goes further than that into degradation. I have no doubt in my mind you will meet someone who will fulfil you sexually and who deserves you!

AdoreTheBeach · 04/06/2020 12:32

We have an acquaintance that had similar situation. In fact, the wife talked to me about the jack if sex during her hen night - but everything else was so fantastic. They got married anyway.

Sex in the marriage became nonexistent but he cuddled her, kissed her, told her he lived her and treated her like a princess.

She later found out he paid prostitutes for very specific sexual encounters. She insisted he go in patient treatment. Part of that treatment was publicly acknowledging what he’d done, apologising etc. Wife eventually broke up with him and started divorce proceedings when she found out further extent of what he paid for.

After divorce, the husband slated the wife, downplayed what he’d done as not being all that bad. Even met someone on some fetish dating website and was telling people how great it was to find someone who could satisfy him. Didn’t last long.

I feel so very sorry for the wife. She wasted 10 years of her life. Her self esteem was repeatedly bashed because he just could not have sexy with her, yet professing his love, kissing her etc. Interestingly he refused to use viagara or see GP about the issue because of course he could perform with Prostitutes.

Truly, leave this guy. This is who he is. He’s not really going to change his likes.

B1rdbra1n · 04/06/2020 13:11

It's pure indulgence, his needs are so important that he has to have specific women for specific things
Urghh, it's not possible to have a partnership with someone who views other human beings as arrange of appliances with which to indulge himself

Dery · 04/06/2020 13:27

@Bluebell0724

Well done you for being so strong - you've been through so much in the last few days. You've had excellent advice and support with @GilbertMarkham leading the way on that and you've done really well to take it on board.

On the BDSM angle - as previously mentioned: my husband and I sometimes play with that, and we learnt to think of it as "power over/power under". If BDSM is done in a properly safe and consensual manner, although the 'D' appears to be dominant, it is actually the 'S' who holds the power and calls the shots and decides what's okay and what's not. That's not what this guy is talking about. He is talking about a situation where he dominates without reference to - indeed with total indifference to - the desires of the submissive partner. That makes him incredibly dangerous. As do his horrible madonna/whore attitudes which are ultimately about deep hatred and resentment of women and their right to live free lives. I believe that you have, without consciously knowing it, been in an abusive relationship.

These are some of the reasons why you are most definitely infinitely better with this guy out of your life and why the votes on this thread were unanimous (apart from the Stepford wife poster, probably a troll, who briefly joined the conversation).

Fortunately, you are already putting this behind you. Keep posting here for support and also I would recommend some intensive counselling to help you through dealing with the fallout from this and also working out what is acceptable in a relationship and what is not as you had such poor role models on that score.

Lorddenning1 · 04/06/2020 13:56

I just wanted to say OP i think you have done the right thing, u need to step back from him now and give yourself time to heal and grieve the relationship and for the future you thought you was going to have.
this will get easier for you in time, it wont feel like it now and u will probably go through highs and lows and i dont think lockdown will help. they say time is a great Healer :)

GilbertMarkham · 04/06/2020 14:10

He was sobbing and didn’t stay on the phone long after I’d ended it.

Well he did need to get off the phone and onto adultwork to book his next session.

(Wonder what the punters doing during lockdown/SD, perhaps cam sex or they just break it).

GilbertMarkham · 04/06/2020 14:12

(I have a feeling his preferences are shaped by quote a bit of porn use too incidentally).

FizzyGreenWater · 04/06/2020 14:18

I'm so glad OP.

I'd also suggest - don't stay in touch 'as friends' either. Step away. Get free and get him out of your life completely so that you can move on.

CaraDune · 04/06/2020 14:21

Well done OP.

(And in answer to your question, Gilbert - I believe the answer has been documented as "yes, they do just break lockdown because their dicks are more important than a global pandemic" - so you can add "risk of contracting covid" to "risk of STDs/rape/physical assault" as one of the occupational hazards of prostitution Sad. But hey, ho, according to some, it's just a job like any other)

C0RA · 04/06/2020 14:24

@Bluebell0724

Yes that is certainly true it would be hard to ever trust fully again and I would always feel insecure and worried he would do it again
You don’t have to worry, he will DEFINITELY do it again. He’s had 12 YEARS to get psychiatric / psychological help / see a counsellor / get spiritual help from your pastor. There are church organisations which could have helped him.

But instead he decided to abuse vulnerable women. Over and over and over again.

You only have this show of remorse because you found out. It’s fake. He won’t change, whatever he says. This is who he has been all his adult life.

Leave now. Please.

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