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Found out fiancé has been cheating on me with prostitutes through most of our relationship. Absolutely devastated!

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 12:56

I thought my relationship was solid F(29) M(31). We had a healthy and incredibly happy relationship. We rarely argued and when we did we would be able to communicate effectively in order to get past it.

We were best friends we would frequently stay up talking into the small hours on a Friday night because we loved each other’s company so much.

My fiancé was the most loving dedicated men id ever met. Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day. Always tactile and hugging me. We were supposed to be getting married (if cornona would allow) in August.

The only issue was the sex which I tried to fix continuously. We had a good sex life at the beginning it was very passionate and the most exciting I’d experienced initially but it kept decreasing. It went down to once every 2 weeks. (I have a very high sex drive so this wasn’t good)

I always tried to engage in communication about our sex life. It was such a shame how much it had decreased. I have always been a bit of a sexually submissive and had wanted to tell him.

But my attempted communication about sex was always shut down. I was fobbed off and told that he had a low drive and wasn’t that into sex.

I was told that he was faking it at the beginning to please me but that he couldn’t keep it up. I felt like he thought I was an over-sexed pervert.

When I tried to initiate sex I was turned down. When we did have sex he would loose his erection. I bought his excuse hook line and sinker.

A few days ago I was on his phone searching for an email from the company who are providing the decorations for our wedding and I came across an email from the website adult work.

When I opened it up it said ‘this email is not spam you have received it because you have an active account on adult work.com’. I googled it and it was a prostitution website. My heart stopped. My world collapsed at that moment.

I tried to sign in and got his password resent to the email so I could. When I logged in I went into his bookings and saw that he had booked prostitutes.

My fiancé was having a nap so I woke him up and asked him to come into the living room. I showed him what I had found. His face said it all!

He admitted to paying for sex around every two months. He said it had started about 7 months into our relationship and the last time was February this year! I threw him out immediately. The hurt, pain and shock was too much to bare.

Since then and me calming down somewhat he has come round to speak to me about it and answer all of my questions (I have many!). I would say we’ve spoken for at least 40 hours combined.

He said after he’d fallen in love with me he couldn’t see me sexually. He said it was like a switch had turned off and I entered into the not sexual category alongside his mum and sisters.

He said he has been introduced to prostitutes about the age of 19 by older men he new who would take him to brothels after nights out. He said initially he felt uncomfortable but they normalised it to him. He then started paying for sex on his own and had done this all through his 20s (he’s 31 now).

He claimed to only have paid for sex while with me because he wanted to have sex with me but couldn’t. I thought ‘what a load of shit’ but when I logged into adult work and looked at the women. They all looked like me. One frighteningly so much she could be me!

Why would he pay for sex with someone who looks like me rather than actually having sex with me? My confusion grew.

He said he couldn’t. His body and mind wouldn’t allow him to. He said I was his princess and he couldn’t think of me sexually in his mind.

I asked him what he liked sexually. He admitted to liking a power dynamic. Ironically the same power dynamic I like but had always felt I wasn’t allowed to bring up.

He said the power dynamic made him feel like he was abusing me or degrading me and that I was his angel that he couldn’t do that to me. He told me he had put me on a pedestal and that he wouldn’t even allow himself to think of me that way.

I have always been uncomfortable with prostitution (my own personal belief) but I feel there is a lot of exploitation. The idea of him doing degrading things to women he paid made me feel sick and made him seem like a monster.

I told him this he cried and said he was a monster and that the only reason he could do it was because he’d dehumanised the women.

He told me the act of buying sex he had compartmentalised. As if it wasn’t real. He told me he almost saw it as a virtual reality world. But that deep down he understood the severity of his actions as the guilt was heavy. (But as I pointed out not enough guilt to confess or stop.)

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

The day I found out he phoned all his friends and family and told them what he’d done. One of his sisters has disowned him. He rang our church and told them what he’d done and asked them to help me as I was distraught.

He was also inconsolable so one of the pastors ended up staying on the phone to him for about an hour. The church then contacted me and offered their support.

He has started therapy. And he phones me up or comes round to visit to tell me what was discussed and what insight it has given him into his actions.

He apologises continuously. He has assured me it was nothing to do with me and that I am perfect (to which I always reply no one is perfect’). But human nature is to feel inadequate now which is what I do feel.

I feel like him paying for it over me shows how undesirable I was. But then he keeps reminding me of the women he choose and how they resembled me.

He says I couldn’t have done anymore and that it’s nothing to do with me and that it was his own emotional issues and his own choice to be unfaithful.

He cries and says he will never forgive himself for the betrayal but also for exploiting the women he paid for. He has said that he will support me whatever I want. That he wants to try again and stay together but that he understands the severity of what he’s done and understands that I may never want him back.

It’s all very overwhelming and I am going through such a roller coaster of emotion I don’t know what I want and am not going to rush my decision.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? What they would do? Or what they got from what I’ve written?

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rottiemum88 · 03/06/2020 20:26

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? Your fiancé is a scumbag and a cheat. The fact that he paid for it just adds an additional level to the abhorrence of what he did

What they would do? Leave and not look back

Or what they got from what I’ve written? That you have no intention of doing the above, will eventually fall for his lies and pleading and give him another chance. You'll ultimately realise this was a huge mistake, but probably not until you're married to him, a couple of kids down the line and don't feel able to leave. You'll rue the day you had the chance to start afresh and didn't take it

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 20:30

I'm not religious but when I think about that message you saw, for you to discover what that guy is really like, before you married him and brought kids into the world with him

... I do have to wonder if some higher power saw him standing in your church being baptised in front of you, his fiancee, and presumably your families etc. just a couple of weeks after (he says) his most recent session with a prostitute .. and thought to themself "I don't fkg think so mate".

It's a wonder the baptism water didn't boil on contact with him.

Sunflowersok · 03/06/2020 20:31

there’s me looking for a slut and I had the biggest slut in the country All along

Oh my word I missed this somehow. That is chilling OP. Please spare your dignity and your life and get away.

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 20:33

Dont squander this chance that you've been given.

lovelocks · 03/06/2020 20:36

@wildone84 No I don’t have first hand experience working in the sex industry but as I said I know people that do and they are clearly very happy with their lives. Some escorts do love their job, maybe they love sex, maybe they love the money I really don’t know but I think it’s wrong to put everyone who works in the sex industry in the category of being exploited, damaged and broken with no other option because that isn’t always the case.

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 20:38

You need to go.no contact, you need to disengage and detach.

I was in a relationship with abusive aspects about 7 years ago and I can honestly say that it was months, and in some cases, years before I fully, truly saw him for what he was. I couldn't see the word for trees when I was in the relationship .. you're blinded to some extent by the ordinary, the everyday, the humanness (for lack of a better word!).

You have to get away from him and have no contact.

Block contact from him because he's clearly going to try to grip onto you like a boa constrictor.

quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 20:38

@lovelocks yeah, I used to tell my friends that.

Regularsizedrudy · 03/06/2020 20:41

Also I would like to point out op that this man DOES NOT love you. He doesn’t even like you. He needs you as part of his facade of being a normal person, you are a shield for him, nothing more. That’s why he is clinging to you so desperately. Why are you giving so much to someone who thinks so little of you? He has nothing but contempt for you. You are a fool to listen to anything he has to say.

wildone84 · 03/06/2020 20:48

[quote lovelocks]@wildone84 No I don’t have first hand experience working in the sex industry but as I said I know people that do and they are clearly very happy with their lives. Some escorts do love their job, maybe they love sex, maybe they love the money I really don’t know but I think it’s wrong to put everyone who works in the sex industry in the category of being exploited, damaged and broken with no other option because that isn’t always the case.[/quote]
Lovelocks, are many of those sex workers going to admit to you that they're looking for a way to get out, but the issue is, they can't find a way out that allows them to keep their home, AND feed & clothe their kids, but they don't think they can do it for much longer.

lovelocks · 03/06/2020 20:54

Seriously not all sex workers are victims! Really sick of that attitude towards anyone who doesn’t conform to social norms.

wildone84 · 03/06/2020 21:00

The point is, as you said yourself, you really don't know or have relevant experience. You're making a guess based on a few people you've met and how they've presented themselves to you.

Anyway, starting to distract from the original post now so I'll leave it there.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:02

@lovelocks maybe not all sex workers are victims but the majority are. 68% of sex workers are raped while being prostitutes. Most are violently attacked. Most leave with PTSD. Most have issues already like childhood sexual abuse. Also ALL buyers of sex are perpetrators of violence towards women and a system which continues to commodify and oppress women. No one is attacking prostitutes here. It’s the buyers of sex who are under fire

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:04

@GilbertMarkham yes you’re right I have been blinded by the everyday it’s been so therapeutic to get objective advice to see my situation for what it is

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:06

@rottiemum88 yes absolutely there are two major issues here it’s not just the cheating the fact he used women the way he did in a way is worse than the infidelity and betrayal

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:08

@rosecreakybex no haven’t had sex with him since I found out. Wouldn’t be able to. Don’t want to go near him. I keep getting unwanted thoughts of him abusing women.

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quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 21:13

Yes I guess not all sex workers are victims but all I'm saying is I was in a Whatsapp group with 197 working girls and because we were relatively anonymous everyone was very honest and every single one of us was a victim. Some (most) were telling friends and family they were fine, that's if they could even tell friends and family

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:20

@GilbertMarkham your point about ‘ he's currently sitting just above sex offenders on the scale‘ is true and actually brought back something he said to me.

When I was going in on him (a day after I found out) about him using and dehumanising women for money he was sobbing and in his own words he said ‘I’m one step away from a rapist’ and I said exactly. The only reason you had some form of questionable consent is the money and even then you don’t know if the women were forced to sell sex in which case it is most certainty rape.

He said he purposefully didn’t engage in much conversation with them because he knew the minute he did and he humanised them he wouldn’t have been able to do what he did.

Just think that’s an interesting insight into the perpetrators mind

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:25

@quicknameymcnamechange that’s exactly what I would have thought. Thank you for sharing that experience. I can whole heartedly believe that the vast majority of women selling sex don’t want to be and are victims. I can also believe that the a large proportion of those who willingly enter soon discover the truth about the men who pay to dehumanise them and abuse them. I can also see how many sex workers have no other option than to pretend they are okay because the truth is too painful for them which is heartbreaking

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SomeonesRealName · 03/06/2020 21:25

@TorkTorkBsm that take-apart of Cheater-narc's nonsense was epic!

quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 21:26

Okay, you know what... even I'm starting to feel sorry for him. You need to stop talking to him because it's all bullshit but it starts to sound very plausible.

When I started escorting I'd listen to the punters stories and feel bad form them. Like I was somehow helping.

SummerWhisper · 03/06/2020 21:28

Just think that’s an interesting insight into the perpetrators mind

He's not just a perpetrator - he's a predator. You are not safe.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:30

@summerwhisper yes so true

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quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 21:31

@Bluebell0724 that's exactly it. I started out thinking well... I love sex... and I'm sleeping with guys for free in one night stand situations so what's the difference... I'm providing for my kids and doing what I love.

Then a punter came along and offered me a line of coke. Then he came back and said he'd give me a bag in return for sex at half the price. Then I realised (having never touched drugs) that having sex with strangers for money was easier if I was high. So I started seeing that guy for free in return for coke.

And in less than a month I was crossing boundaries I'd always said I'd never cross. Being the woman your punter wished his wife would be is a bit of a thrill at first but not for long.

I appreciate this may sound anecdotal but as I say, I was part of a group of almost 200 sex workers for a year and not one of them were genuinely happy with what they were doing.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:33

@quicknameymcnamechange I’m so sorry for what you went through and having to deal with these selfish men. Sitting their listening to their sob stories while you must have been living hell yourself. Seems so unfair. Ultimately it’s all about male entitlement. It was their choice to see women the way they did and pay for sex. There’s no excuse and that goes for my ex fiancé. I hope he does feel bad for what he’s done. His actions have hurt many women including myself. I really hope he does know this now even if that hope is unrealistic. But yes your advice is spot on thank you so much Flowers

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quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 21:34

No problem at all. I don't generally talk about it at all but I felt I had to share my experience

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