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Found out fiancé has been cheating on me with prostitutes through most of our relationship. Absolutely devastated!

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 12:56

I thought my relationship was solid F(29) M(31). We had a healthy and incredibly happy relationship. We rarely argued and when we did we would be able to communicate effectively in order to get past it.

We were best friends we would frequently stay up talking into the small hours on a Friday night because we loved each other’s company so much.

My fiancé was the most loving dedicated men id ever met. Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day. Always tactile and hugging me. We were supposed to be getting married (if cornona would allow) in August.

The only issue was the sex which I tried to fix continuously. We had a good sex life at the beginning it was very passionate and the most exciting I’d experienced initially but it kept decreasing. It went down to once every 2 weeks. (I have a very high sex drive so this wasn’t good)

I always tried to engage in communication about our sex life. It was such a shame how much it had decreased. I have always been a bit of a sexually submissive and had wanted to tell him.

But my attempted communication about sex was always shut down. I was fobbed off and told that he had a low drive and wasn’t that into sex.

I was told that he was faking it at the beginning to please me but that he couldn’t keep it up. I felt like he thought I was an over-sexed pervert.

When I tried to initiate sex I was turned down. When we did have sex he would loose his erection. I bought his excuse hook line and sinker.

A few days ago I was on his phone searching for an email from the company who are providing the decorations for our wedding and I came across an email from the website adult work.

When I opened it up it said ‘this email is not spam you have received it because you have an active account on adult work.com’. I googled it and it was a prostitution website. My heart stopped. My world collapsed at that moment.

I tried to sign in and got his password resent to the email so I could. When I logged in I went into his bookings and saw that he had booked prostitutes.

My fiancé was having a nap so I woke him up and asked him to come into the living room. I showed him what I had found. His face said it all!

He admitted to paying for sex around every two months. He said it had started about 7 months into our relationship and the last time was February this year! I threw him out immediately. The hurt, pain and shock was too much to bare.

Since then and me calming down somewhat he has come round to speak to me about it and answer all of my questions (I have many!). I would say we’ve spoken for at least 40 hours combined.

He said after he’d fallen in love with me he couldn’t see me sexually. He said it was like a switch had turned off and I entered into the not sexual category alongside his mum and sisters.

He said he has been introduced to prostitutes about the age of 19 by older men he new who would take him to brothels after nights out. He said initially he felt uncomfortable but they normalised it to him. He then started paying for sex on his own and had done this all through his 20s (he’s 31 now).

He claimed to only have paid for sex while with me because he wanted to have sex with me but couldn’t. I thought ‘what a load of shit’ but when I logged into adult work and looked at the women. They all looked like me. One frighteningly so much she could be me!

Why would he pay for sex with someone who looks like me rather than actually having sex with me? My confusion grew.

He said he couldn’t. His body and mind wouldn’t allow him to. He said I was his princess and he couldn’t think of me sexually in his mind.

I asked him what he liked sexually. He admitted to liking a power dynamic. Ironically the same power dynamic I like but had always felt I wasn’t allowed to bring up.

He said the power dynamic made him feel like he was abusing me or degrading me and that I was his angel that he couldn’t do that to me. He told me he had put me on a pedestal and that he wouldn’t even allow himself to think of me that way.

I have always been uncomfortable with prostitution (my own personal belief) but I feel there is a lot of exploitation. The idea of him doing degrading things to women he paid made me feel sick and made him seem like a monster.

I told him this he cried and said he was a monster and that the only reason he could do it was because he’d dehumanised the women.

He told me the act of buying sex he had compartmentalised. As if it wasn’t real. He told me he almost saw it as a virtual reality world. But that deep down he understood the severity of his actions as the guilt was heavy. (But as I pointed out not enough guilt to confess or stop.)

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

The day I found out he phoned all his friends and family and told them what he’d done. One of his sisters has disowned him. He rang our church and told them what he’d done and asked them to help me as I was distraught.

He was also inconsolable so one of the pastors ended up staying on the phone to him for about an hour. The church then contacted me and offered their support.

He has started therapy. And he phones me up or comes round to visit to tell me what was discussed and what insight it has given him into his actions.

He apologises continuously. He has assured me it was nothing to do with me and that I am perfect (to which I always reply no one is perfect’). But human nature is to feel inadequate now which is what I do feel.

I feel like him paying for it over me shows how undesirable I was. But then he keeps reminding me of the women he choose and how they resembled me.

He says I couldn’t have done anymore and that it’s nothing to do with me and that it was his own emotional issues and his own choice to be unfaithful.

He cries and says he will never forgive himself for the betrayal but also for exploiting the women he paid for. He has said that he will support me whatever I want. That he wants to try again and stay together but that he understands the severity of what he’s done and understands that I may never want him back.

It’s all very overwhelming and I am going through such a roller coaster of emotion I don’t know what I want and am not going to rush my decision.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? What they would do? Or what they got from what I’ve written?

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 13:28

Yes we don’t have any children yet we were waiting till after the wedding.

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 13:29

Okay thanks I will look them up I don’t mind paying for them

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justanotherneighinparadise · 02/06/2020 13:30

I honestly think if you take him back he’ll fall back into the cycle with a different excuse. It’s too ingrained and you deserve better. Walk away now while you still have time to date without worrying about your biological clock.

1235kbm · 02/06/2020 13:30

OP have you been for an STD check yet? Even if you've been using condoms, STDs can be transmitted via the skin and via oral sex. Please get checked as a matter of priority.

OP, your 'fiance' is a sick individual and your post filled me with absolute horror on your behalf. Haven't you considered the fact that he chose you because he has a type and that's why sex was good at the beginning?

He is into degrading and humiliating women and he sees them as non people, he dehumanises them. He doesn't see you as a person, he sees you as someone he can present to the world as his face of normality while he degrades prostitutes. He is so sick that he got a hard on telling you about it.

You are already considering marriage to someone who no longer wants to have sex with you. Why on earth would you do that unless you want to be celibate for the rest of your life?

You have to end this relationship because in a few years time, when the varnish has worn off, he'll start degrading you. He's sick OP and it's ingrained in him. I would run as far and as fast I could in the opposite direction. I would run in the clothes on my back.

Jjjjjj1981 · 02/06/2020 13:30

There are some online places that do STD tests OP, such as Superdrug Doctors.

TorkTorkBam · 02/06/2020 13:31

I missed the bit where he called everyone and made them listen to his real life sex confessions as he gets a raging hard on.

Yuck yuck yuck

Sleazy exhibitionist dragging his pastor, his friend, his family and you into his sexual nastiness. I have the creepy icks now. I need a shower.

MsTSwift · 02/06/2020 13:31

You should feel relieved you found out when you did

Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 13:33

Yes it would certainly have been far worse if we were married

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 13:34

Thanks for everyone’s honest opinions I thought it may have been a bit of a mixed bag but everyone seems to agree here. There so certainly a consensus of opinion

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Igtg · 02/06/2020 13:35

You’re not considering staying with him are you?

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 02/06/2020 13:35

Please walk away. Never look back. I almost feel sorry for him but I feel more sorry for YOU.

If you don’t, you will end up married with kids and he will do it again and it’s much harder to leave

BigRedBoat · 02/06/2020 13:38

He sounds like a creepy fucker. Don't settle, you can do better.

GilbertMarkham · 02/06/2020 13:39

I'd have my doubts about his back story about using prostitutes too.- saying he was taken along by older men who introduced him to it and normalised it for him seems to me like a handy way of trying to disclaim responsibility and make out it wasn't really his decision, he was young and pushed into it, and it all started from there. Much more sympathy provoking than saying he searched for it himself and git involved himself. It could be lies. Even if it isn't, he didn't have to do it or continue doing it noone could force him to have sex in the rooms with the prostitutes on the occasions he wax taken there (if he was) .. do you think prostitutes aren't happy to take their money and not do anything/just talk? Do you think they sometimes don't have sex because punters have erectile dysfunction, medical issues, are very lonely etc. If he really had to wanted to be did t have to .. and that's just the occasions he says he was taken there. Sounds like there have been many many more when he chose to find them and use them himself.

He feels guilty and overwhelmed now that they are very likely exploited/coerced etc.?

What, now .. after years of choosing to.do it. Getting older, maturing, learning more about the world, .. not during that time; he wasnt able to think about anything during all that time?

But somehow now sees it - because he's been caught? Because he knows you were likely to tell your family and perhaps your church?

How interesting that his appreciation of the predicament prostitutes may be in has coincided with being found out - but not in the years he was using them before he was found out.

GilbertMarkham · 02/06/2020 13:41

Okay thanks I will look them up I don’t mind paying for them

It might be s lot easier to have them done as a batch by a professional than trying to buy lots of tests (although perhaps they do a package, not sure) follow instructions and do them yourself ... There must be somewhere open .. some appointments are back, with people using masks etc.

MsTSwift · 02/06/2020 13:42

Don’t want to sound like a doom monger but fear you will massively regret building a life with him. I dumped a serious boyfriend at 28 as he had a temper and thank god I did as then met a brilliant dh better than my ex in every way possible. I shudder to think what my life would be like had I taken a different decision.

FlamedToACrisp · 02/06/2020 13:44

I would have found all of it believable, possibly even understandable, right up to the bit where he started telling the world. How fucking dare he? That is your private relationship, and he has no right to drag you into his public confessions.

He needs serious therapy. And you need to get rid of him now.

Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 13:45

lgtg I suppose I was in two minds before. Not knowing what to do that’s why I wanted to ask others

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PicsInRed · 02/06/2020 13:46

Before was a lie. This is the truth. Your ENTIRE MARRIAGE will be JUST LIKE THIS.

Leave and find someone normal who can give you a normal life - and genuine, reciprocal respect and love.

My guess is that this comes from his upbringing and community - who are now love bombing you and gaslighting you to stay, marry and have babies with their damaged kitten - babies he will turn over to his church to turn into more damaged kittens, who will also harbour horrific and unhealthy ideas about women.

There is no undoing this. It is now hardwired into his sexuality and personality.

Leave while you still can. I wish I did.

CaraDune · 02/06/2020 13:46

What branch of Christianity are you attached to OP? (I ask as a lapsed Christian myself.) You're not going to be subject to any crappy pressure about "well, you were living with him, so it's almost like marriage, so you'd be breaking a sacred bond if you walked away"? Or some sort of "to err is human, to forgive divine, so you must forgive this poor, poor man" nonsense? 'Cos if you are (a) it's horseshit and (b) you need a new church.

Also - seriously - no sane group of women would produce a range of opinions on this. It's a sign of how badly he's done a number on you that you'd even think there could be a range of opinions. The only sane opinion is LTB.

CaraDune · 02/06/2020 13:48

(PS re. churches, I speak from experience - I watched my sister's congregation guilt trip her and bully her into staying with a physically abusive man. There are some religious groups who really do not have women's interests at heart. And having to stay with a sexual pervert who uses prostitutes would also count as an abusive relationship in my books.)

B1rdbra1n · 02/06/2020 13:48

This man wants to draw you into his crazy gaslighting world➡️
YOU SHOULD RUN VERY FAST IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION
↩️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️

RhymesWithOrange · 02/06/2020 13:51

Women are not rehabilitation centres for badly raised men. You want a partner, not a project.

It's NOT your job to fix him. He has been repeatedly unfaithful in the most revolting way throughout your relationship.

You deserve better. You are worth more.

GilbertMarkham · 02/06/2020 13:51

Achieving a happy marriage is never absolutelyguaranteed, but there are a few basic rules that make ot much much more likely. One is;

Never marry a known user of prostitutes.

wabbie · 02/06/2020 13:52

I know it's hard but listen to everyone that says leave him even if you did get back with him every time yous aren't together you will have it in the back of your head he's with a prostitute you can never fully trust him again after lying to you for soooo long and being able to hide it for that length of time

Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 13:55

Yes that is certainly true it would be hard to ever trust fully again and I would always feel insecure and worried he would do it again

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