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Found out fiancé has been cheating on me with prostitutes through most of our relationship. Absolutely devastated!

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 12:56

I thought my relationship was solid F(29) M(31). We had a healthy and incredibly happy relationship. We rarely argued and when we did we would be able to communicate effectively in order to get past it.

We were best friends we would frequently stay up talking into the small hours on a Friday night because we loved each other’s company so much.

My fiancé was the most loving dedicated men id ever met. Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day. Always tactile and hugging me. We were supposed to be getting married (if cornona would allow) in August.

The only issue was the sex which I tried to fix continuously. We had a good sex life at the beginning it was very passionate and the most exciting I’d experienced initially but it kept decreasing. It went down to once every 2 weeks. (I have a very high sex drive so this wasn’t good)

I always tried to engage in communication about our sex life. It was such a shame how much it had decreased. I have always been a bit of a sexually submissive and had wanted to tell him.

But my attempted communication about sex was always shut down. I was fobbed off and told that he had a low drive and wasn’t that into sex.

I was told that he was faking it at the beginning to please me but that he couldn’t keep it up. I felt like he thought I was an over-sexed pervert.

When I tried to initiate sex I was turned down. When we did have sex he would loose his erection. I bought his excuse hook line and sinker.

A few days ago I was on his phone searching for an email from the company who are providing the decorations for our wedding and I came across an email from the website adult work.

When I opened it up it said ‘this email is not spam you have received it because you have an active account on adult work.com’. I googled it and it was a prostitution website. My heart stopped. My world collapsed at that moment.

I tried to sign in and got his password resent to the email so I could. When I logged in I went into his bookings and saw that he had booked prostitutes.

My fiancé was having a nap so I woke him up and asked him to come into the living room. I showed him what I had found. His face said it all!

He admitted to paying for sex around every two months. He said it had started about 7 months into our relationship and the last time was February this year! I threw him out immediately. The hurt, pain and shock was too much to bare.

Since then and me calming down somewhat he has come round to speak to me about it and answer all of my questions (I have many!). I would say we’ve spoken for at least 40 hours combined.

He said after he’d fallen in love with me he couldn’t see me sexually. He said it was like a switch had turned off and I entered into the not sexual category alongside his mum and sisters.

He said he has been introduced to prostitutes about the age of 19 by older men he new who would take him to brothels after nights out. He said initially he felt uncomfortable but they normalised it to him. He then started paying for sex on his own and had done this all through his 20s (he’s 31 now).

He claimed to only have paid for sex while with me because he wanted to have sex with me but couldn’t. I thought ‘what a load of shit’ but when I logged into adult work and looked at the women. They all looked like me. One frighteningly so much she could be me!

Why would he pay for sex with someone who looks like me rather than actually having sex with me? My confusion grew.

He said he couldn’t. His body and mind wouldn’t allow him to. He said I was his princess and he couldn’t think of me sexually in his mind.

I asked him what he liked sexually. He admitted to liking a power dynamic. Ironically the same power dynamic I like but had always felt I wasn’t allowed to bring up.

He said the power dynamic made him feel like he was abusing me or degrading me and that I was his angel that he couldn’t do that to me. He told me he had put me on a pedestal and that he wouldn’t even allow himself to think of me that way.

I have always been uncomfortable with prostitution (my own personal belief) but I feel there is a lot of exploitation. The idea of him doing degrading things to women he paid made me feel sick and made him seem like a monster.

I told him this he cried and said he was a monster and that the only reason he could do it was because he’d dehumanised the women.

He told me the act of buying sex he had compartmentalised. As if it wasn’t real. He told me he almost saw it as a virtual reality world. But that deep down he understood the severity of his actions as the guilt was heavy. (But as I pointed out not enough guilt to confess or stop.)

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

The day I found out he phoned all his friends and family and told them what he’d done. One of his sisters has disowned him. He rang our church and told them what he’d done and asked them to help me as I was distraught.

He was also inconsolable so one of the pastors ended up staying on the phone to him for about an hour. The church then contacted me and offered their support.

He has started therapy. And he phones me up or comes round to visit to tell me what was discussed and what insight it has given him into his actions.

He apologises continuously. He has assured me it was nothing to do with me and that I am perfect (to which I always reply no one is perfect’). But human nature is to feel inadequate now which is what I do feel.

I feel like him paying for it over me shows how undesirable I was. But then he keeps reminding me of the women he choose and how they resembled me.

He says I couldn’t have done anymore and that it’s nothing to do with me and that it was his own emotional issues and his own choice to be unfaithful.

He cries and says he will never forgive himself for the betrayal but also for exploiting the women he paid for. He has said that he will support me whatever I want. That he wants to try again and stay together but that he understands the severity of what he’s done and understands that I may never want him back.

It’s all very overwhelming and I am going through such a roller coaster of emotion I don’t know what I want and am not going to rush my decision.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? What they would do? Or what they got from what I’ve written?

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wildone84 · 03/06/2020 19:13

I agree. I don't buy it that prostitutes claim they're happy to be fucking strangers. How can you enjoy sleeping with mostly misogynist sleaze bags who are cheating on their partners. Clearly prostitutes are not going to be crying about how downtrodden and exploited they feel, and how they wish they could get out of the industry for a job that doesn't involve being used sexually, but they cannot for financial reasons.

Instead they're going to hold their head up high and play the role of the happy hooker rather than be a sad, walking advertisement for why a person should never head down that path.

MarronCat · 03/06/2020 19:21

Bluebell0724 - before I met my husband I had a longterm relationship with a guy who suddenly one day confessed that he'd lost his virginity to a prostitute years before I met him. It's not as bad as your situation, it's not comparable really, but it was something I just couldn't get past and I told him never to contact me again. Yes, I know everyone has a past and we should try not to judge and I felt that I wanted to help him at first, but I just couldn't get past it - this viewing a vulnerable human being as a commodity to be bought and sold, used and abused. I thought about forgiving him and counselling etc, but I just couldn't get past it. Whenever he tried to get near me, I just felt repulsed. It broke his heart and his still single years later. It's not a particularly interesting story nor uncommon, but I know how you feel at least somewhat. I was expecting to look back on it and perhaps regret my decision, I'm just so glad for the headache and years I didn't waste. It's no life - always wondering what they truly think about women, wondering if they're in the red light district when they said they were going to work, wondering what he actually used to ask the prostitutes to do. It's such a waste of a good woman's life especially when there are millions of men in the world to choose from! And you're so young! But your guy is something else - so much more sinister, so much more dark and very manipulative. I really feel like he's a terrifying fat spider just waiting to lure you into his web. It really is deeply, deeply unpleasant.

MarronCat · 03/06/2020 19:22

PS, sorry for the typos and slightly wonky English, I'm trying my best but English isn't my first language. Blush

Regularsizedrudy · 03/06/2020 19:24

My mind is a mess by what I have just read.

He sounds like a serial killer. I am not joking.

He doesn’t see these women as human.. the fact they look like you is even more disturbing... it reminds me of how ted bundy went after women with long brown hair because they looked like his ex girlfriend.

He is trying to fulfil some sick depraved fantasy with you at the centre of it.

Truly this is how serial killers start, abusing sex workers and maintaining a nice guy image with a spouse.. then the spouse finds out and are manipulated into staying, abuse of the spouse ramps up.

Please please please run away as fast as you can.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 19:25

@wildone84 I couldn’t agree more! It’s most likely a defence mechanism. Admitting the truth may be too painful. I have read accounts by women who said they have to he numb and absent during the ordeals and dissociate. Almost like rape victims. The men paying for them are not making tender love to them. Even if they were it would still be stomach churning. The men are living out their violent humiliating fantasies on them.

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 19:28

@MarronCat I completely understand your disgust. I know it’s hard to believe because of the situation I’m in but I would feel the same. Even if ex fiancé hadn’t cheated on me finding out about his past may have lead me to do the same. Men who abuse And exploit women disgust me. I’m just still in shock the sweet man I was engaged to is one of those monsters

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 19:29

@MarronCat hasn’t noticed anything at all! Very eloquent if anything :)

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 19:30

@Regularsizedrudy yes that’s blood curdling

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wildone84 · 03/06/2020 19:32

I too got involved with a man who lost his virginity to a prostitute. He framed it as an urge he desperately needed to fulfil at the time and that he didn't want to have sex with some random, non-sex worker woman who may have got attached to him when he only wanted something sexual.

He told me about the prostitute in an email and even described the encounter in terms that sounded like he was trying to arouse me. I was disgusted and dumped him.

And it put our first and only sexual experience together into context because it seemed he had erectile dysfunction. It transpired he didn't have erectile dysfunction at all, he just had a porn problem and was only able to get it up when watching porn or perhaps being with prostitutes, I'm guessing. I assume that he was a repeat customer but I didn't know for sure.

I dumped him and asked him, how could he know that this South East Asian lady that he'd paid for sex when he lost his virginity, wasn't trafficked or an illegal immigrant who had no other options?

He said he picked someone who definitely wasn't trafficked, but it was in a brothel, so how would he know? He wasn't able to explain how he knew for sure she wasn't trafficked or pimped out.

He grew up Catholic and had a massive Madonna/whore complex. He wasn't able to meet my sexual needs and only wanted to cuddle, get married and make babies with me some time in the future. He divided women into two camps - the bad women on the porn websites and in the brothels who were sexual beings, and the good women like me who were worth marrying. He put me down for having sexual needs and made out it wasn't normal, or that it was perverted.

He even compared our first attempt at lovemaking to something he'd seen on a porn website and said it made him feel 'dirty' in a bad way, like I'd acted in a disgusting or wrong way.

Just wanted to share my experience to say that these men have issues that cannot be fixed by their partners, and it is a waste of your one precious life to try.

You can have a happy partnership and sex life with a man who isn't broken. You're young and it's highly likely you'll meet someone new in the future.

BumbleBeee69 · 03/06/2020 19:37

I cannot believe that OP is giving this man 'room for discussion' never mind still considering him a life partner Confused

MarronCat · 03/06/2020 19:38

No, it's just a scary process that requires support, BumbleBee.

BumbleBeee69 · 03/06/2020 19:40

No, it's just a scary process that requires support, BumbleBee

Yes I can see the support she's giving him very clearly. I hope she ends it.

MarronCat · 03/06/2020 19:43

Me too and I'm sure Bluebell will. She just said upthread that she can't see how there's any coming back from it now.

Sunflowersok · 03/06/2020 19:44

Oh my word op I am so sorry. If you stay with this man that will stick with you for the rest of your life.

I think both you, and him, needs to accept that he has different needs to what you can give him. His needs will never change, and although he will try to change for you, needs need to be met eventually

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 19:45

@wildone84 thanks for sharing your story. It just runs true. It seems lots of women have had this experience and maybe we don’t tell each other enough. The erectile dysfunction issue is such a problem. My best friends fiancé can’t get an erection without porn either. It really affects her self esteem.

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 19:46

@Sunflowersok good advice thank you

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runningon · 03/06/2020 19:50

I am seriously worried about you op.
Am I the only one who thinking your fiancé is grooming you? It wouldn't surprise me if he ends up 'sharing' you with his other prostitute visiting men.
That would give him the greatest sexual thrill I think, now that you are a 'slut' for explaining to him that you would like to be a sexual relationship.
I can't make out if you are making all this up, I can't believe you haven't thrown out him & all this stuff yet (or that your parents/friends who you have told haven't done it for you).
There's sweet, and then there's stupid....
Sorry, but you obviously don't get it yet!

wildone84 · 03/06/2020 19:51

[quote Bluebell0724]@wildone84 thanks for sharing your story. It just runs true. It seems lots of women have had this experience and maybe we don’t tell each other enough. The erectile dysfunction issue is such a problem. My best friends fiancé can’t get an erection without porn either. It really affects her self esteem.[/quote]
Bluebell - I'm so glad I dumped him.

The thing to remember is that there are plenty of men out there who are NOT like this! Men who like having sex with the woman they love, and who are not prostitute users, porn addicts or porn users. I've met some of them and had some enjoyable experiences and relationships.

What your man is into, and what that guy I met is into, is NOT normal at all.

MarronCat · 03/06/2020 19:53

I'm so glad I dumped mine too.

Porn has a lot to answer for, and bad sex is the least of it.

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 20:05

I can't believe you haven't thrown out him

She did - if you read the thread you'll see that

They have met and messaged.

rosecreakybex · 03/06/2020 20:06

I'm scared to ask OP but have you slept with him since all this happened?

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 20:08

Op it is time to stop the contact, disengage and get started on the road to recovery.

I'm not saying it's easy, not saying it's not very painful, but it had to happen. A d the sooner it dues the further along you'll be in a months time, three months, six months etc.

You're looking for a decent man to build a relationship with, marry and have a family with.

He is not that man..

Every minutes you're engaging with him is delaying you from coming to terms with this, detaching, recovering and moving towards finding that man.

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 03/06/2020 20:11

Your best friend needs to bin her fiancé as well.

If they don’t get hard with a woman they purport to love but manage fine with porn or debasing someone they pay for, then there is a bigger problem than self esteem issues.

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 20:19

You've spent a couple of years getting close to him, building a relationship (that was based on deceit on his part and ignorance of his character, though you weren't to know that), having lots of time in his company, intimacy, him becoming very important in.your life, planning a life together etc. etc.

So this is obviously going to hurt like fuck. But it has to be done.

You aren't married, no divorce to go through, no shared kids, you can end it cleanly, unlike some others on this board.

Don't let low self esteem and worrying about meeting someone else affect you. You'll meet someone. Someone will always crop up. The likelihood of them being equal to or worse than this guy is extremely low, he's currently sitting just above sex offenders on the scale.

There are lots of threads on here for people going through breakups, for advice band support. It's a pity things are limited by current circumstances but you can still do everything you can to fill your time, have some company, take up new interests, distract yourself, have goals to aim for and treats to look forward to. Be kind to yourself and enjoy the little, basic things.

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 20:24

For one thing you'll be able to have sex with a guy who meets you half way, and who you can be yourself with, and have normal sexual desire, and the normal desire to experiment & play around with things ..
Without being made to feel like you're oversexed or a degenerate. Normal men don't mind (and in fact are very happy with) their partners wanting sex, wanting to play around with mild bondage/being dominated a bit etc. etc.

You could have a nice sex life instead of what you were subjected to with that freak.