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Found out fiancé has been cheating on me with prostitutes through most of our relationship. Absolutely devastated!

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 12:56

I thought my relationship was solid F(29) M(31). We had a healthy and incredibly happy relationship. We rarely argued and when we did we would be able to communicate effectively in order to get past it.

We were best friends we would frequently stay up talking into the small hours on a Friday night because we loved each other’s company so much.

My fiancé was the most loving dedicated men id ever met. Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day. Always tactile and hugging me. We were supposed to be getting married (if cornona would allow) in August.

The only issue was the sex which I tried to fix continuously. We had a good sex life at the beginning it was very passionate and the most exciting I’d experienced initially but it kept decreasing. It went down to once every 2 weeks. (I have a very high sex drive so this wasn’t good)

I always tried to engage in communication about our sex life. It was such a shame how much it had decreased. I have always been a bit of a sexually submissive and had wanted to tell him.

But my attempted communication about sex was always shut down. I was fobbed off and told that he had a low drive and wasn’t that into sex.

I was told that he was faking it at the beginning to please me but that he couldn’t keep it up. I felt like he thought I was an over-sexed pervert.

When I tried to initiate sex I was turned down. When we did have sex he would loose his erection. I bought his excuse hook line and sinker.

A few days ago I was on his phone searching for an email from the company who are providing the decorations for our wedding and I came across an email from the website adult work.

When I opened it up it said ‘this email is not spam you have received it because you have an active account on adult work.com’. I googled it and it was a prostitution website. My heart stopped. My world collapsed at that moment.

I tried to sign in and got his password resent to the email so I could. When I logged in I went into his bookings and saw that he had booked prostitutes.

My fiancé was having a nap so I woke him up and asked him to come into the living room. I showed him what I had found. His face said it all!

He admitted to paying for sex around every two months. He said it had started about 7 months into our relationship and the last time was February this year! I threw him out immediately. The hurt, pain and shock was too much to bare.

Since then and me calming down somewhat he has come round to speak to me about it and answer all of my questions (I have many!). I would say we’ve spoken for at least 40 hours combined.

He said after he’d fallen in love with me he couldn’t see me sexually. He said it was like a switch had turned off and I entered into the not sexual category alongside his mum and sisters.

He said he has been introduced to prostitutes about the age of 19 by older men he new who would take him to brothels after nights out. He said initially he felt uncomfortable but they normalised it to him. He then started paying for sex on his own and had done this all through his 20s (he’s 31 now).

He claimed to only have paid for sex while with me because he wanted to have sex with me but couldn’t. I thought ‘what a load of shit’ but when I logged into adult work and looked at the women. They all looked like me. One frighteningly so much she could be me!

Why would he pay for sex with someone who looks like me rather than actually having sex with me? My confusion grew.

He said he couldn’t. His body and mind wouldn’t allow him to. He said I was his princess and he couldn’t think of me sexually in his mind.

I asked him what he liked sexually. He admitted to liking a power dynamic. Ironically the same power dynamic I like but had always felt I wasn’t allowed to bring up.

He said the power dynamic made him feel like he was abusing me or degrading me and that I was his angel that he couldn’t do that to me. He told me he had put me on a pedestal and that he wouldn’t even allow himself to think of me that way.

I have always been uncomfortable with prostitution (my own personal belief) but I feel there is a lot of exploitation. The idea of him doing degrading things to women he paid made me feel sick and made him seem like a monster.

I told him this he cried and said he was a monster and that the only reason he could do it was because he’d dehumanised the women.

He told me the act of buying sex he had compartmentalised. As if it wasn’t real. He told me he almost saw it as a virtual reality world. But that deep down he understood the severity of his actions as the guilt was heavy. (But as I pointed out not enough guilt to confess or stop.)

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

The day I found out he phoned all his friends and family and told them what he’d done. One of his sisters has disowned him. He rang our church and told them what he’d done and asked them to help me as I was distraught.

He was also inconsolable so one of the pastors ended up staying on the phone to him for about an hour. The church then contacted me and offered their support.

He has started therapy. And he phones me up or comes round to visit to tell me what was discussed and what insight it has given him into his actions.

He apologises continuously. He has assured me it was nothing to do with me and that I am perfect (to which I always reply no one is perfect’). But human nature is to feel inadequate now which is what I do feel.

I feel like him paying for it over me shows how undesirable I was. But then he keeps reminding me of the women he choose and how they resembled me.

He says I couldn’t have done anymore and that it’s nothing to do with me and that it was his own emotional issues and his own choice to be unfaithful.

He cries and says he will never forgive himself for the betrayal but also for exploiting the women he paid for. He has said that he will support me whatever I want. That he wants to try again and stay together but that he understands the severity of what he’s done and understands that I may never want him back.

It’s all very overwhelming and I am going through such a roller coaster of emotion I don’t know what I want and am not going to rush my decision.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? What they would do? Or what they got from what I’ve written?

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Blackdoggotmytonguestill · 03/06/2020 21:37

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quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 21:38

And showing me pictures of their wives who they had on a pedestal as the virtuous ones who'd never allow them to do what I'd do. It's actually heartbreaking and I'm an educated, grown woman in her 30s with kids and a fairly normal upbringing (although I was raped at 19). I dread to think of these poor women with awful backgrounds and no support who the likes of your husband have been abusing

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:40

@quicknameymcnamechange well that’s exactly the point isn’t it? That’s how it’s sold. ‘Great I love sex I can do the same thing and get money for it’ but the reality is once money is exchanged it’s no longer sex because he has all the power it’s all about him and you’re just their to fulfil his needs not your own. It must have taken so much out of you and I suppose the men who you really didn’t want to sleep with that must have been awful truly awful for you.

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quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 21:46

Well I put myself in that situation so I don't deserve any sympathy. More I feel sympathy for the wives. But I appreciate you saying that.

Thing is when you think you love sex... you don't think about how once thy eve paid it's nothing about the kind of sex you like
And is all about them and what they like so although I might love x, y & z.... if they love s, j and g, I've taken the money so I have to perform

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:48

@quicknameymcnamechange thank you so much for sharing your experience. All I can offer is big hugs to you. Sometimes it’s hard to talk about things because of fear of judgement. But you should never be judged it’s the men who paid to have sex with you who should be judged. Talking about it does help. I’m so sorry you were raped at 19. Maybe that could have something to do with being able to disassociate. I was raped at 15 and 17 took a long time to come to terms with but talking about it really healed me. Initially I was so ashamed I didn’t want anyone to know but when I finally talked about it and kept talking about it the power it had over me and blaming myself went. It really helps to talk. If you ever wanted to talk about anything you can always send me a message 💖

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quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 21:50

What I'm saying i suppose is that your husband has undoubtedly added to the stress and abuse and humiliation of women ever if perhaps one out of the however-many he met enjoyed it.

For him to have not seen that is just too blind for me (if I was his wife) to forgive

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:51

@Blackdoggotmytonguestill harsh but undeniably some truth. I am certainly not getting off on anything he is saying or how he is. I am disgusted by him. But you are right that I need to walk away for myself and other women and stand up for myself. Thanks for your honesty

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 21:54

@quicknameymcnamechange you are NOT to blame if men cheat on their wives that is their choice!

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quicknameymcnamechange · 03/06/2020 21:55

I won't message if it's okay because I really do prefer to distance myself from this particular ugly chapter in my past. But thank you for that. It's extremely kind of you to feel for "the other side" at a time like this.

Like I say, I rarely speak of it. I did make a thread on here when I was trying to get out and people were overwhelming helpful.

But this isn't about me - I just wanted you to hear from the other side when he tries to brush it all off as a bad experiment that he's laying to rest, there are women who he's hurt and I don't think personally that I could let that rest in my husbands past if I were you

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 22:00

@quicknameymcnamechange of course I completely understand. It has been really helpful to get a wholesome picture of the whole thing. This should be done more. Yes I don’t think I can let it rest! It’s worse than the cheating to me because it says everything about his character and how he really views women and I don’t want to sanction or enable that behaviour

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Takeitonthechin · 03/06/2020 22:15

One thing I would say is, when he walks out of the door, would you trust him or would you be wondering where he was, what he was doing and who with.... do you really want to spend the rest of your life thinking these things... one day you will meet someone whom respects you for being you. Good luck OP

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 22:21

@Takeitonthechin I have 0 trust I could never trust him again. I also have 0 respect for him.

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 22:29

Thank you all very much for taking the time to advise me it’s very humbling. I now know what to do. After sorting out the flat and finances I will walk away for good! I just needed to hear the truth to kick me up the backside and wake up and look after myself. Thanks again 💖

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OliviaBenson · 03/06/2020 22:43

Well done op. You will get through this, you will be ok.

Have you stopped speaking to him? I'd just tell him you need a week no contact and go from there. He won't like it as he can't wear you down but you need the headspace and time away.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 22:45

@OliviaBenson very good idea I might just leave finalising the flat up to him and then go no contact. Maybe I could even get one of my parents to stand in for me so I don’t have to have anymore dealings with him

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Franticbutterfly · 03/06/2020 23:03

You are so young, get away from him. You don't need this shit.

Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 03/06/2020 23:11

I’m actually very worried for your safety. The most dangerous time for a woman is when she leaves a relationship. At the moment he thinks he can win you back so he’s being fake nice.

As soon as he realises you really mean it, he has nothing left to lose and he could get very nasty.

If your parents will stand in and finalise flat dealings then take that help.
Make sure you are very bland in your dealings with him. “You need time and space to work through it”. Be bland, be boring. Don’t humiliate him. Just get your stuff, severe any legal ties and be fine. Do not meet him alone, ever. In fact don’t meet him. Just tell every on pass on the message that you need him to stay away and give you space.

Look up some resources for leaving an abusive relationship. I really worry he’s the type to lash out when he loses control of you.

Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 03/06/2020 23:12

Fine = done

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 23:14

Thank you both for your advice it’s really helpful

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 23:17

@Mycatismadeofstringcheese yeah I’d never thought of that before. He has said he will support me whatever I’d decide. He has never shown any signs of violence or controlling behaviour towards me but I should be vigilant anyway after all he’s not who I thought he was

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Dery · 03/06/2020 23:18

"I’m actually very worried for your safety. The most dangerous time for a woman is when she leaves a relationship. At the moment he thinks he can win you back so he’s being fake nice.

As soon as he realises you really mean it, he has nothing left to lose and he could get very nasty.

If your parents will stand in and finalise flat dealings then take that help."

This a thousand times over. Please do NOT try to deal with him directly - let your parents handle all practicalities. Apart from anything it makes it much harder for him to try to reel you back in.

Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 03/06/2020 23:19

You’ve probably never told him no before, so you won’t have seen that side of him.

I’m so sorry for what you’re going through.

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 23:22

This thread exploded and I missed a post from you outlining (while trying to be tactful) what he said he enjoys sexually; and I've realised that I thought he was into being dominating (the power balance you referred to earlier) and when you said of was the same power balance you found a turn on sexually, I presumed it was just s bit if domination, mild bondage, whatever.

So reading between the lines (and taking what you said straight) he actually said he enjoys;

  • humiliation sex talk (him humiliating and degrading his sexual partner)
  • deep throat/gagging blow jobs
  • coming on the face of or in the mouth of his sexual partner (?)

And when I say sexual partner, of course I mean paid/prostituted sexual partner, because that's the only partners he seems to have felt free to do this with.

I got the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that you liked a power balance with the male dominating; but not necessarily that you would be into the above.

I don't think many women would be - especially DT/gagging blow jobs - gagging is uncomfortable and unpleasant.

So you'd have been pushing yourself past what was comfortable and enjoyable to have sex the way he enjoys it anyway (putting the gigantic issue of the cheating and prostitute use aside for a second)?

When I look at what he finds sexually arousing & enjoyable, alongside the other things he's said .... He enjoys degrading women essentially (I'm presuming the humiliation/degrading sex talk is one way, towards the woman). He's creepy/disgusting, I agree with some posters; perhaps potentially dangerous.

If a man at the relatively young age of 31 is a long-term, habitual user of prostitutes - who pays to have sex in which he degrades them .. you have to wonder where that will go. Isn't it the case that a common pattern for porn users and sex consumers is to move along a line of extremity to get the same arousal and gratification.

He's even said himself in perhaps a candid moment that he's worried he'll become a rapist.

Even without the worry of escalation; I find his sexual preferences disturbing, they are not those of a good person.

His reaction to you indicating you'd be up for some of his preferred sexual acts (or whatever was said in that conversation) a d the look you describe - seem like yeah he was indeed viewing you with excitement as his next victim, even more convenient and gratifying because you wouldn't have to be booked or paid.

He has also displayed the most incredible deceptiveness and disengenuous-ness throughout ... From his lack of comment or reaction to your "rants" on prostitution, while he sat there as a habitual punter, using them even while with you .. to going along with a low testosterone investigation, while knowing he was sexually active with prostitutes almost the whole time.

Candyfloss99 · 03/06/2020 23:22

If someone stops seeing you sexually it's over. I can't believe you were planning on marrying him even before you found out about the prostitutes.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 23:27

@Mycatismadeofstringcheese no I’ve never told him no because he never wanted sex so when he did I was happy that he did and wanted it too

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