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need to leave the family home - i don't know how to do it

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SoniaShoe · 01/06/2020 14:46

I have a partner of 11 years and we have 2 children together age 8 and 4. Our relationship has always been up and down but recently its been very toxic and we say nasty things to each other and he is angry and aggressive towards me. This afternoon we had an argument, I said something I regret on my way out for a walk and he followed me into the street shouting and swearing at me, threw me up against the side of a van in the street and then pushed me over a low wall into someone's front garden. All the while i was pleading with him to stop and he was shouting at me to fuck off. We know most of our neighbours but I don't know if any saw or heard this. I walked away and he shouted after me that it was over. I sat in the park crying and gathered my thoughts and i came home when I knew him and the kids would have left for a trip out (I'm working from home and he's not working).

I really want to leave him, I have done for a long time but he refuses to sell the house we own together. I am the breadwinner and although I could afford the house on my own, he couldn't. If i move out and rent a flat I wouldn't be able to pay the mortgage on the house. Let alone that I couldn't walk away from my children without agreeing how we would co-parent. He won't discuss us separating or selling the house even though I've tried for years. I know he won't do that after this incident, it will just all be my fault as it usually is and he'll carry on as he is without acknowledging what he did or even worrying if I am ok.

I just don't know what to do. I feel so trapped. I'm financially independent and being on my own with my lovely children doesn't worry me, it feels like a dream compared to living with him. I just don't know how to get there.

thanks for reading

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dublingirl66 · 03/06/2020 16:44

@nomoreofthisnonsense I feel for you
This was me also

And my gosh it was so HARD
I did it
But he worked his way to my family
My friends
My work buddies

They all felt so bad for him
Just dreadful

It took a few more attacks for me to remain v v strong

Please stay strong guys
Lots of fab women here helped me along the way

Keep posting xxxxxxxxxxxx

HappyHedgehog247 · 03/06/2020 17:38

Cheering you on to keep getting stronger and finding a way to leave. I left and have never looked back. The day i got him arrested was terrifying, but it worked.

SoniaShoe · 03/06/2020 18:00

And my gosh it was so HARD
I did it
But he worked his way to my family
My friends
My work buddies
They all felt so bad for him
Just dreadful

This! This is a big part of why i'm scared to make such a big move. Everyone thinks he's amazing.

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TorkTorkBam · 03/06/2020 18:15

If he is arrested and you get an occupation order then they'll quickly drop the he's amazing thing.

If you drop it all now and later say that he was abusive they will believe his statements that you are a crazy ex.

StrawberryJam200 · 03/06/2020 18:21

@SoniaShoe it honestly won't be everyone, not if they were truthful which they will be once you've "given permission" for them to stop pretending.

The Head of my kids' school, who'd only been there 6 months, said he could see the burden lifted off me as I came into the playground each morning following my leaving my ex.

Lightuptheroom · 03/06/2020 19:19

You have to stop thinking about 'what I will lose' friends who think he's amazing? He can keep them, they are no friend to you. You have to act NOW for your children, keep focusing on their right to live free from this. Later, if he gets access, then it can be supervised, please don't keep looking all the way along what can be a long road, that's how you frighten yourself out of doing something about it

FizzyGreenWater · 03/06/2020 19:27

OP you need to start talking to people.

They won't think he's so amazing when you tell them he's assaulted you repeatedly and you're finally getting the strength to leave.

'OMG I would never have thought it, he's so nice'

you - 'Yes. He's always been very good at that, it's one of the reasons it's taken me so long to speak out.'

Everyone is familiar with the 'axe murderer seemed like normal family man' thing.

Most people would not believe that you were probably perfectly happy but just decided you'd like to make life 100% more difficult for yourself by leaving a lovely man.

People will believe you. They may find it an adjustment, they may not know what to say... but they'll believe you.

Vodkacranberryplease · 03/06/2020 19:29

There will be a few that will persist in believing him but you'll be amazed how many people see through him. And you'll have to have a bit of a clear out - I can't deny that. But you will WANT to. You just won't want the baggage any more.

Noshowlomo · 03/06/2020 19:58

OP I 100% believe you can do this!!

SoniaShoe · 03/06/2020 22:28

Again, thank you all for your posts. I spent this evening completing my solicitor's form with all our personal and financial details. That is now submitted ready for the consultation call on Friday. Then I'll know my legal position and I could then try for mediation or similar. I may be being naive but I have to at least try this approach.

The police said I could change my mind about giving a statement at any time so I am considering doing that in the morning. I am finding that a hard thing to do as you know. I am only considering as there are about 20 of you (I've counted) all saying the same thing! And most of you have been through or are going through a similar situation. Thank you for sharing your experience.

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Vodkacranberryplease · 03/06/2020 22:42

Trying mediation is a smart move - the courts like that, it shows willing. It also gives him a chance to show his true colours.

Will mediation work? No. But it shows YOU were willing to be reasonable. So he either looks like an arsehole or has to give in to something legally binding he doesn't want. Or looks like an arsehole then has to give in in court. Having shown them he's unreasonable. Courts HATE unreasonable. 😁

WhotheWhat · 03/06/2020 22:44

Make that 21, OP! And the rest....

I think you're getting great advice and support here and I haven't posted because i haven't anything practical to add, but thinking about you nonetheless.

ZooKeeper19 · 03/06/2020 23:13

OP please, you are living in an abusive relationship and you and your children are at risk.

You say he just pushed and shoved and shouted that is ASSAULT under English Law and it carries a jail sentence if it is serious enough. It is domestic violence that your children and you are suffering. And make no mistake. They know. What role model are you setting up for them? That it is OK to abuse and manhandle your partner?

You really need to report this to the police with as much detail as you remember and then get a good legal advice on how to get him out of your life. He relies on your income in other words you are bloody supporting his abusive lifestyle so he can push and shove you around.

Please, be very aware that this is not what a relationship should be like. Sending lot of positive support and hope you manage to get appropriate help and counselling as well.

dublingirl66 · 03/06/2020 23:20

Course you can do this

Going to the police for me was key
I went a number of times and was blown away by the kindness and compassion they showed

They allowed me as much time as I needed to make my statement
They allowed me to read over it a few times and make changes etc

It's hard but necessary

Gosh how dare he treat you this way
I read your first post and my blood was boiling

MaeveDidIt · 03/06/2020 23:24

If you go ahead with the police statement (which I think you should do), I believe you could get a restraining order or a non-molestation order and this would mean he has to leave the house for a long period of time.

That would give you time to organise the separation/house sale hopefully without too much obstruction from him because he will presumably need the money.

Shouldbedoing · 03/06/2020 23:46

Please SoniaShoe, make that statement. Its a gift to help you get away and be safe. If a man in the street pushed you up against a van and then backwards over a low wall you wouldn't hesitate to press charges.

Porridgeoat · 04/06/2020 05:57

Press charges please. The fact he has no remorse And feels fully justified is worrying

crystalize · 04/06/2020 07:21

Another one here saying make that statement. I hope you start to feel anger at how he has treated you. Anger at the fact you are financially supporting an abuser. Dont underplay this, emphasise to the police how scared you are of him. You need this to get him out.

fluffygreenmonsterhoody · 04/06/2020 07:44

Please, make the statement OP. Do it for your kids.

timeisnotaline · 04/06/2020 07:54

22 op. If you don’t lay charges you are protecting an abusive man. If you do you are protecting yourself and your children and moving towards a life away from him. Yes it is protecting your children. It is drawing a clear line that this is not ok and no one should have to accept it. It’s not telling them not to love him, it’s telling them no one can hurt their mummy.

sallievp · 04/06/2020 08:04

Make the statement. Don't lose this opportunity to do the right thing by yourself and your children.

Lightuptheroom · 04/06/2020 08:51

It may help you to think in terms of not what you are doing to the children if they witness the police visiting, but what you are doing for your children in securing a future free from them witnessing their daddy hurting their mummy. I think you said your oldest is 8. If someone walked up to them in school and shoved them up against a wall and pushed them over a wall, you would rightly go ballistic. If another child constantly called them vile names you wouldn't sit back and say 'that's ok, carry on'
You are a person, you do not deserve to live in fear of the next time, walking on egg shells because he will convince you that you are at fault, that he can't help it, that you 'set him off'
Been there , done that, worn the t shirt.
My ex only got to hit me once.
My ds was 2 and I had already seen signs that his dad could easily turn on him, he cried 'too much' he 'invaded his space' etc
He too was nice, plausible, engaging - until he slammed a door on a barristers hand later in court proceedings.
I picked my ds up and we left, we had the clothes we stood up in and thankfully my parents were amazing. His answer to me leaving was to yell at me that he would make me wait 5 f*ing years for a divorce
I'm not telling you that it's easy, yes, he would likely get some kind of contact with the children, but this can be supervised and kept safe. You have then kept them safe and you have fought for that right for them
DS is now 18, I have raised a man with integrity, a gentle soul who would never ever hit a woman in anger. Had I stayed 'just because it was easier' I can honestly say our lives would have been controlled beyond measure
Please make the statement.
It doesn't sound to me like you are financially vulnerable, which is what causes so many women not to leave and they excuse terrible behaviour because they feel trapped. Do it for your children.

SoniaShoe · 04/06/2020 12:28

ok powerful women of mumsnet! after reading all your comments last night i've decided to make a statement. He was also so rude to me this morning, i've become an insignificant piece of dirt to him and he won't talk to me except to be rude and mocking.

I've spoken to the police to let them know I do want to make a statement after all. The officer i spoke to on Tue is on duty this evening so he is going to call me and I'll do the statement this evening. I also texted him (we were in text communication when he was asking for some more information on Tuesday night) and emailed them just for safe measure! Now that i've made the decision I'm happy that I've done it.

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sallievp · 04/06/2020 12:36

Good for you op....you are very brave and I hope everything gets better for you. You deserve a happy life.

Lightuptheroom · 04/06/2020 12:38

Well done and you are a brave lady. They will help you and support you.

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