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Dating Thread 189 - The One Where We Date Without Meeting or Leaving Home

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JeSuisPrest · 12/05/2020 12:46

The Rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. Know your worth.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future 14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item.

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Lovemusic33 · 19/05/2020 21:15

Well done ZoZoBo my iron messages me again today asking when he could see me, he then said I was playing hard to get 😐.

I have been looking on POF for new irons, not been on there for a while, mostly the same old faces.

Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz · 19/05/2020 21:21

Hi everyone hope you don’t mind me joining you all

cravingthelook · 19/05/2020 21:42

Hi @Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz

Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz · 19/05/2020 21:45

How far would you all be willing to live away from potential suitors? I am very rural which can be a problem for OLD

Menora · 19/05/2020 22:01

I’m like 20-30 miles tops

I’ve had a shit evening
A guy I went out with in like 2011 for a couple of months seemed nice at first but had this like scary underlying rage. I started to see it and broke up with him because he had such a nasty streak and I was a bit afraid of him. He also had a lot of other problems but his MH wasn’t good

So that was then. I just went onto Facebook messenger and in my spam folder was a message from this guy over the weekend. It was so fucking nasty and spiteful. He’s seen me on a local FB group and knows vaguely where I live now too. Was calling me fat, mental, unhinged, crazy and unsexy. Really venomous. I have blocked everywhere but feel horrible about it

CheesecakeAddict · 19/05/2020 22:46

1 hour drive is my limit (I am also very rural and it's a 45 min trip to the nearest city where I would date anyway).

@menora he sounds crazy. Delete and ignore. Something must be going totally shit for him to want to drag others down with them.

Tomorrow marks 1 year to the day since I walked out on my husband 😔. He's asked to reconcile. I've said no (he was physically and emotionally abusive) but part of me thinks this is so hard, what if....?

TigerDater · 19/05/2020 22:52

Can you report him menora? I’ll never know why people have to be so mean. It’s all him, not you at all, but I know you know that.

I feel a bit down for the opposite reason. My lovely Mr Mad has never stopped messaging me, just funny memes etc, i’ve told him about mr GN which he found difficult to hear but we’ve stayed (slightly naughty) friends. He told me tonight he’s moving away, he’s found a wonderful place where I know he’ll be far happier. I’m not sure we’ll ever see each other again and I’m gutted. I think he’s my one who got away 😕

Myfabby · 19/05/2020 22:54

@CheesecakeAddict

No matter how hard OLD is, going back to an abusive man is NOT the answer. Have you had counselling?

CheesecakeAddict · 20/05/2020 05:15

@TigerDater do you think given you told him about Mr GN, that must be a positive sign for you and Mr GN?

@myfabby not yet. I've woken up in better spirits. I would never go back to him - I've worked too hard this past year to create a new life for myself and I have no feelings for my exh anymore. It was one of those late night (drunken 😂) feeling sorry for myself thoughts

NoBloodyFighting · 20/05/2020 07:40

Flowers for cheesecake it's coming up to that time for me too and I understand the mixed feelings (especially when drink has been involved!)

cravingthelook · 20/05/2020 09:07

@NoBloodyFighting and @CheesecakeAddict my 1 year is 6th June

I'm well past the thoughts of ever going back 😊 you'll get there

cravingthelook · 20/05/2020 09:15

One iron has gone Mr Direct, I knew it had no legs but I liked his chat. He stuck to his name and sent me a really nice direct message (after I suggested a walk/nature photography after lockdown) he said it feels a bit strange to meet now and he's wanting to just back into work and he wished me well.
I was impressed, I said thanks and wished him well. It felt like a nice respectful ending. Wish it was always like that.

Mr Scent and I are still chatting.

TigerDater · 20/05/2020 09:16

cheesecake yes, things are really good with Mr GN and I know I’ve made the right choice. It’s just that Mr Mad is gorgeous in so so many ways. I know I should cut contact with him Sad

CheesecakeAddict · 20/05/2020 09:17

Mr Vegan has been texting quite a lot recently and phoning every day. We've decided to go for a SD walk by the river later on whilst the weather is so good.

CheesecakeAddict · 20/05/2020 09:20

@cravingthelook that is a shame about Mr Direct, but at least he was honest and didn't lead you on for months.

Lovemusic33 · 20/05/2020 11:43

I’m meeting up with a ex iron today as he’s helping me out with something I needed for work (at a distance), I DTD with him several years ago and I don’t fancy him at all, for me it’s purely work/friends but I know he still has a huge crush on me so it’s going to be a bit awkward.

Myfabby · 20/05/2020 16:39

@CheesecakeAddict glad you are feeling better. Everything good will come!

Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz · 20/05/2020 19:38

What are everyone’s limits on age difference sorry if this has been asked. I’m 39 and guessing men in their 40s are more likely ready to settle down but does that mean I should write off younger ones? My pool is very shallow locally

cravingthelook · 20/05/2020 19:56

@Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz this is going to sound bad but mine is 30-47 and I'm 42. I've had way better experiences with younger men.

Mr scent is proving to be a delight so far, just the right amount cheeky chat and general interest. I will not get my hopes up too much though.

Menora · 20/05/2020 19:59

I’m the same age (39) I have had better luck with about 33-35 year olds. I did put up to 50 but the pool for me was.... not good

Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz · 20/05/2020 20:22

I split up from my fiancé at Xmas and met someone on tinder 2 weeks into January. I had only gone on for a look and we just hit it off instantly. Thing was he has so much complications in his life - he is in custody battle with exp who had their dc (3 under 8) taken off her so he has them full time. He also lives with his parents at the moment. He started a new business in jan which has now gone tits up. We get on so well and we really really like eachother to the point where we talked about us being in a relationship. But it was difficult to spend any time together. Then lockdown happened and he’s just completely hit a wall of depression. His parents have to shield so they are all stuck in the house and he’s skint and trying to home school them. Then the final court hearing got postponed twice and his ex has been harassing him constantly. I just don’t think he has the emotional capacity to deal with me aswell so we said we would stick a pin in it for the time being. We still talk every day and it absolutely sucks. So I’m not entirely sure what I’m looking for on OLD. A distraction? Is that bad?

cravingthelook · 21/05/2020 01:09

@Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz no it's not bad.

Just be clear with yourself what you are doing. I've been flitting about in my head. I'm completely in love with a friend Mr Swan - the chemistry is unreal and people comment on it all the time. However since last August he's shown attraction then backed off again no less than four times. Each time saying he doesn't want to ruin our friendship, stupid thing he has done exactly that. We used to talk so much, and the week before lockdown we were out with others and afterwards he sent me a text saying I could see your worry don't I promise you won't be alone. Then everyday he messaged and we had video chats. Then he went AWOL a month ago, he's back and apologised saying that he had anxiety but he's not back fully. There's a brick wall in front of him and he's not the same, I tried talking about it and he said this is the best he can do. So I've put my boundary up, I'm not messaging outside a group chat. I'm devastated partly because I know I love him and it will never be, but also I'm grieving the loss of friendship now too in the midst of lockdown.

I started OLD in the midst of his hot and cold spell as a distraction in the hope I'd stop thinking of him in that way.

And this year I decided it was time I dealt with my very old traumas and how they affect me and my approach to dating. I'm doing counselling, remotely just now. It's the best thing I've ever done.

I've admitted to myself I don't want a traditional relationship and I'm good with non monogamy But on my terms. I do not want ONS, I want connection. Sex on its own is not enough. I need care and closeness too.

So I'm In a type of non traditional relationship with Mr Tea, I've not seen him in 12 weeks now. He is openly polyamorous and told me even before we met. I went into that open minded. He doesn't do casual, we had several dates before sex he genuinely cares about each of us and we are all a varying stages of long term, however I know that the most we can see each other (my schedule and where he lives) is twice a month so it feels more FWB for me. And as long as I'm safe and open he is happy for me to do what makes me happy and likes to hear about other relationships (he talks about his). But I know in my heart one of the reasons why I went into this was because I had feelings for Mr Swan and it was ok to feel like that and still be with Mr Tea (he knows).

But twice a month isn't enough and so when I met and made friends with Ms Jam (also poly and Bi) and she made it clear she was interested in me we spent more time together, there's only been sex once. She is fully aware of Mr Tea and is also friends with Mr Swan and I have been honest about that. The last we left it before lockdown was we are friends but the line is a little blurred.
She's struggling a bit with lockdown being that she can't see any of her poly relationships and we aren't talking as much right now.

So this takes me to why I joined fab - I thought it would be easier to find someone who was more open to a regular non monogamous situation- Mr Scent so far is seeming to be a front runner. I've told him of Mr Tea and Ms Jam. He has one other current potential.

Each of them give me something different, I know that neither Mr Tea or Ms Jam give me everything I need and they only work as part of my poly cell.

I have always had an interest in a poly life but I'm trying to decide if I'm pursuing now because my situation (a year post marriage split) supports it or I'm hiding from the pain of loving Mr Swan or a mixture of the two.

Still trying to work it all out mentally and emotionally - I'm aware that I'm just made a mammoth post, but it was quite cathartic so I thank you all. If you have any advice please feel free to chip in, I know all the thread regulars are kind and non judgemental but newbies please consider I'm still a bit fragile. Thanks.

SortingItOut · 21/05/2020 07:15

@Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz
My age range had been 30 - 49 but this was when I was looking for a casual thing, I actually had an FB who was 48 which lasted just over a year but mainly I found men over 45 didn't do it for me so i mainly stayed 35 - 40.

This was when I was 38.

I'm now 39 and have met someone who is 36.

Your other post stood out to me because you split from someone in December and met someone new in January. No matter the reason for the split most people need time to work on themselves and their own happiness and I wonder whether this guy with all his baggage came too early and it was nice to be wanted?

I know his baggage cant be helped but can you see yourself in a long term relationship with him?
Being with someone with 4 kids will be difficult especially if they have limited contact with their mother.
I hope he isnt looking for a ready made step mum for them.

I think doing OLD is a good idea, not as a distraction but because you deserve a less complicated first relationship after your previous relationship ended.

Eesha · 21/05/2020 07:21

@Fuzzyduckduckyfuzz that does sound like an awful lot of baggage so early on. Is that what you are ok with so soon after a relationship ending. I know I'm trying really hard to identify red flags early on personally. This sounds a lot like hard work.

SortingItOut · 21/05/2020 07:24

@cravingthelook
Thanks for sharing your current situation, when i first joined OLD i was on OkCupid and that is a great site for polyamory and non-monogamy, they actually give these as options when you describe your situation.

I hadnt really considered it before and once I knew more about it I realised that non-monogamy was what I wanted so i ended up having a casual thing with a few people including a man who was polyamorous- i think he wanted me as one of his girlfriends but i didnt want commitment or to be tied down after a long abusive marriage.

I'm 2 years out of that marriage and I'm not sure what I want now because I've met a guy on Fab and we're 8 months in and neither of us are seeing others although we have agreed that if either want sex with someone else we have to tell each other.
We're not in a relationship because I'm scared of commitment but i know we need the chat to determine what we are, it doesn't matter while lock down is on because we cant meet anyone else but when it ends then I need to know where we stand.

I like the idea of different people meeting different needs and for some people that is definitely what works.
Are you wanting a distraction from Mr Swan or is it just that you dont want a conventional relationship and the space you have now allows you to investigate it more?