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A little suspicious - any knowledgeable WhatsApp users around?

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Butteredtoastandcoffee · 09/05/2020 08:24

Changed username for this.

I think DH might be blocking and unblocking me on WhatsApp.

He works away midweek. I noticed randomly a while ago that his profile pic on WhatsApp had changed to nothing. Before it had been a pic of us all.

Then noticed on sons phone a while later (he was showing me messages) it was a pic of the kids.

I didn't think much of it. Then I was whatsapping someone and his pic was of the kids on mine too. Basically thought I must have been mistaken and promptly forgot all about it. We very rarely WhatsApp each other, we mainly use iMessage but he uses WhatsApp with the kids and other family/friends. I use it for the kids and workmates mainly.

Fast forward to last night. Was on WhatsApp and saw the picture of the kids. He is quite high up on my chats list.

For some reason I screenshot it. Then this morning, went to WhatsApp my sister and the pic is back to nothing again. It's of the kids on my sons!

I WhatsApped a message and it's just got one tick and has for ages. But on a group kids chat we are on it went to two straight away for him when I messaged this morning.

This is just weird!

It can't be that he wants to hide his last online as he has that set so nobody sees that anyway. He wouldn't need to block me for that.

Any ideas as to why?

I know the right thing to do is ask. I don't really want to do that right now.

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Butteredtoastandcoffee · 18/05/2020 11:41

Thanks for all of your suggestions - very much appreciated.

No I didn't get to the bottom of the sim key thingy. He would likely just say it was somewhere to keep it Hmm

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Butteredtoastandcoffee · 18/05/2020 11:42

He has an iPhone. Nothing appearing on bank but he has a barclaycard account that I don't see any statements for

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Butteredtoastandcoffee · 18/05/2020 11:42

May have to try and access those

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Butteredtoastandcoffee · 18/05/2020 11:43

Not many cash withdrawals either but then you would do cash back wouldn't you. If trying to hide withdrawals?

I'll look into reddit

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Louise000000 · 18/05/2020 12:09

Hope you get to the bottom of this asap op, I would be driving myself insane!! Flowers

Friendsofmine · 18/05/2020 12:25

@ilovebluecheese I have 2 accounts on one SIM with 2 different numbers it is called dualling on android I think

JamieLeeCurtains · 18/05/2020 12:28

How does he pay off his Barclaycard? I'm guess he must use his own bank account - I think you said you can see that?

It really is odd.

pinkandstripey · 18/05/2020 13:29

Have you checked his location records on iPhone? It's in privacy AIRC. May not tally with times you are blocked, but could reveal a place he goes regularly?

Butteredtoastandcoffee · 18/05/2020 13:58

@JamieLeeCurtains that name made me laugh Grin

Yes pays a set amount each month from his bank account. Will see what I can find.

Good idea re:location. I genuinely don't feel he is going anywhere. But yes makes sense to check.

When I was blocked last week, I FaceTimed and rang (making up an excuse to do so) he was in bed and in his usual bed gear. After 10 pm. In his room where he should be.

Whatever it is, is definitely WhatsApp video/online .

If online he wouldn't need to block me on WhatsApp leading me to think it's WhatsApp video style stuff

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Butteredtoastandcoffee · 18/05/2020 13:58

I'm strangely calm.

Last week I was up and down like a yo-yo.

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tarasmalatarocks · 18/05/2020 14:36

There are a ton of WhatsApp online status trackers out there- not all free, but they do work even if they hide their status but you will need an android phone to download it to— doesn’t matter what phone the other person you are tracking has- iPhones are fine. You can’t see who or what the info relates to , but you will see how long on there and when and you don’t gave to download anything on theirs. Depends how determined you are to see if and when he is on it- if it’s long periods of time and it’s not you or your kids and he doesn’t tend to use it for work much and it’s all tending to be late at night then its likely to be either another woman or sex workers unfortunately . I think he’s blocking you because he thinks you will notice how much he is on it and at funny times. If needs be get a second hand cheap galaxy etc . You don’t even need a sim in it if it’s just for internet purposes and you have WiFi . If you need a name of one tracker that works PM me

soph1987 · 18/05/2020 14:45

I still don't see how this makes any sense. The logic in blocking you doesn't add up. On a WhatsApp phone call it goes "offline" anyway so doesn't show you online for the duration of the call.
If he's worried about OP's name popping up that also doesn't make sense, she could just iMessage.
Also I thought Op checked battery, surely WhatsApp wasn't an insane amount of time.

And didn't OP FaceTime when she was blocked, surely if he was in the midst of a paid for sesh then he would not answer, he'd decline and say he's on the loo or something!

Whatever the reason he's doing it I strongly fear it won't quite add up still. Like he's just gone over board with it.

I'm still optimistic though that it's innocent - really hope so for OP's sake!

Louise000000 · 18/05/2020 14:46

I'm leaning towards the WhatsApp vid chat type stuff, is this the only thing that he's doing that's suspicious?

Louise000000 · 18/05/2020 14:48

Does your statue go offline on a vid chat? I thought it would be constantly online through the call?

Louise000000 · 18/05/2020 14:49

He's up to something he doesn't want you either knowing about or interrupting tho @Butteredtoastandcoffee hope it's no big deal though what ever it is!!

soph1987 · 18/05/2020 16:07

@Louise000000 never thought on video call so I'm not actually sure... hmm...

I do video calls for a volunteering thing... let me check my battery!
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Ok yes it shows as a heavy amount of time on WhatsApp on screentime. I didn't look for online though. Also, you can 100% remove the online part of your name!

buckfastattiffanys · 18/05/2020 16:11

my iPhone payments were to barclaycard when I bought it (rather than apple). It's likely that. I never get a statement as it's technically finance being paid off I think.

Burpalot · 18/05/2020 16:29

Weird. What kind of logic would he have to think repeatedly blocking you would be less noticeable than you noticing he's online when he knows you guys don't use it to communicate?! Nuts

Susanna85 · 18/05/2020 16:40

Other than this, what has made you feel like something has been going on?

Gutterton · 18/05/2020 16:40

Burpalot - not as tech savvy as he thinks. It’s all so complex - you think you are erasing your digital foot prints - but you leave fingerprints somewhere else.

Digital has opened so many “hidden” options for betrayal and nefarious activities - but also leaves a trail and many trip wires along the way!

Gutterton · 18/05/2020 16:42

Did you allude to him having form for something before? What was it? It’s likely the same thing?

Wafter · 18/05/2020 17:06

Op so sorry you are going through this, I was dating a guy who was working in the south but was from the north. He was obviously using two sims because he accidentally messaged me off the wrong sim once and I got his real email add come up on iMessage and in a new thread, his name was even different. As soon as I noticed and messaged him he promptly blocked me and I never heard from him again.

Does his name begin with A by any chance?

To be honest I bet there's loads of fuckers at it, sorry you're going through this. What a prick.

LittleWing80 · 18/05/2020 18:10

OP try to get his bank accounts and emails. Any ipad sync’d to his phone. Did you check his apple pay transactions?

Butteredtoastandcoffee · 18/05/2020 18:30

He mentioned needing to set up Apple Pay a few weeks ago.

No, doesn't begin with A.

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Butteredtoastandcoffee · 18/05/2020 18:30

Didn't check the transactions as didn't know how. Will do this weekend.

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