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How does everyone feel about p0rn?

632 replies

warmsummersday · 17/09/2007 19:58

Hi. Im feeling abit insecure at the mo, OH works away in the week and all I can think about for the past couple of weeks is porn and I don't like the idea of him looking at it. I don't know why. Obviuosly I know he looks at it, just like everyother tom dick and harry! I have some but for me to look at it is fine in my head. Can someone reasure me and make me feel better please?

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Tortington · 24/09/2007 22:09

there are people who watch 'halloween jasons revenge' and think its ok to go murder people.

thats not an argument for censorship of an entire medium. imo
no porn
no video games
no films
no art?

the line is where?

isues have been confused on this thread.

the wellbeing of the people in the industry is one thing - i am positive no one would argue against

the censorship of the medium is another.

madamez · 24/09/2007 23:02

Tamz: at least some of the 'testimonies' you refer to were later found to have been accounts based on discussions in a women's study group - ie completely made up, yet presented as factual accounts of real events. There is no direct causal link between viewing of media and commision of crimes despite assorted nutters having been trying to prove that it's all the media;s fault for about 40 years.

IN cases of spousal abuse and domestic violence it is, of course, wrong for one partner to bully or coerce another into taking part in sex acts against that person's wishes. It's also wrong for one partner to bully, belittle or assault the other for not reaching some 'required' standard of excellence in cooking or housework, yet no one blames Nigella or Gordon or Delia for such cases.

minorityrules · 24/09/2007 23:09

tam, how many other people who had watched porn and didnt want to act it out? Were they represented?

I have never met a man (or woman)that wanted to act out specific acts from a porn film. Those quotes sound like they come from abusive relationships, how do know the porn caused the abuse or if it was already there?

No one is saying good guidelines and regulation aren't what is needed, that goes without saying

Wanting to ban it is wrong imo, like previous psoter said, where do you stop? All sexual content in all films, books, tv, art? All violence in the above.....we'd all be watching bambi (oh no, there is violence in that!)

Lorayn · 25/09/2007 09:56

I dont think all porn is wrong.
Some women are exploited in the industry.
Some women feel they need to do things sexually that they ahve seen in porn to keep their men.
Some men expect the same kind of sex life as their favourite porn movie.
But not all
I spoke to DP about this last night and he says porn does nothing for him because he thinks of the women in it as 'cheap whores' and that he finds sex very personal and to be with someone you respect, the main point I got from that was that he eve thought the women were worthless.
If that isn't part of the degradation then what is?
Thankfully he doesn't see all women like this, but it is understandable why men think badly of women dressed/acting a certain way is it not??

cestlavie · 25/09/2007 14:25

Tamz, without entering into a detailed discussion about Dworkin or MacKinnon(which I'm happy to do if you wish) I think it's fair to say that using her as source on the appropriateness of pornography is akin to asking Osama Bin Laden for a balanced critique on Christianity.

Elizabetth · 25/09/2007 14:34

Yeah, because Andrea Dworkin is so much like a murderous terrorist plotting the downfall of the West who is behind the deaths of thousands of people. That's the second most ridiculous thing I've read on here.

The terrorists in this scenario are the pornographers who do inhumane vile things to women and teach men how to degrade and brutalise us.

Everybody was shocked at what was done to the men in the Abu Graib photographs. People understood immediately that it was torture, yet the same thing is done to women, day in day out in porn and nobody says a word. The women in pornography aren't regarded as human beings with feelings, as Lorayn says men see them as "cheap whores". "Cheap whores" are not thought of as having any humanity.

cestlavie · 25/09/2007 14:41

Oh ffs Elizabetth, read my post and don't keep deliberately misinterpreting things. I didn't compare Dworkin to Bin Laden what I said was that her view on pornography was about as balanced as his is on Christianity.

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