How does everyone feel about p0rn?

[warmsummersday]

Hi. Im feeling abit insecure at the mo, OH works away in the week and all I can think about for the past couple of weeks is porn and I don't like the idea of him looking at it. I don't know why. Obviuosly I know he looks at it, just like everyother tom dick and harry! I have some but for me to look at it is fine in my head. Can someone reasure me and make me feel better please?

I'm talking about underage sex because there is so much of it in pornography.

You have to be careful when you're enjoying pornography because you don't KNOW if they're underage.

DP has reminded me alot of the enjoyment he gets from anal sex is knowing how much I'm enjoying it and getting off on it. Quite the opposite of thinking he's humiliating me.

And he's not just saying that cos its what i want to hear btw, i know how to turn him on and its alot more about how much I'm into it and what we're experiencing together than it is about the physical things iykwim. Which you might not

Hadn't you heard Laurie, orgasms trump everything? As soon as an orgasm is involved (probably not for the woman though!) you aren't allowed to criticise it.

You are right enjoyment isn't an argument for saying that something is good or acceptable.

Any underage people in porn are being exploited illegally. There are age restrictions. As I said earlier, there should be regulations and enforcement of those regulations.

AFAIK, many people in porn films are "of age" and are working legally (tho I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong) but are simply made to look younger.

And you don't know if they are drugged.

It comes down to this - you don't KNOW if they are consenting and enjoying it.

That would seem like a good enough reason to not watch mass market porn.

Perhaps you could all just swop home videos - at least you know to a certain extent that each other is consenting

again i say. you are condemning lax regulation - if indeed thats what it is.

and mixing it with the genre of pornography.

OK I accept that there is an element of abuse in the porn world - people doing things they dont want, underage people etc. Same as there is corruption and abuse in one way or another in many industries. This is wrong and indefensible, noone is saying it isn't. But that is not the debate here, we all agree more should be done to stop that.

Well in that case perhaps I shouldn't wear clothes...because I don't KNOW that the people making them aren't being exploited, I don't see their payslips. should we all be nudists?

Custy said it better

I'm not 'mixing' it, they are inextricably linked.

the most searched word on the internet is porn/sex - totally unregulated

If you watch on the internet you could be watching someone being exploited - that's all I am saying

I would be surprised if any of you were comfortable with that possibility

Custy said it better than me that is - didnt mean nutty or anyone else!

But we are not just talking about the net, I for one own a nuber of dvd's just for the hell of it. i don't rwally use the net for porn as there is so much sodding spywear on it

Really

I'll go further - I'm saying that a lot of porn on the internet is exploitative - enough to make it something you should think about as ethical consumers

just like the point you made about clothing - yes, I don't buy clothes from certain countries because of that very reason

LFC - you are basing your argument on the fact that porn regulation is not up to scratch rather than the existence of porn.

if you use repuatable sources then yes, you can guarantee that the men AND women in the films are not being exploited or underage

Well yes so we shoulkd choose where we get our porn from/what porn we watch but not stop watching altogether

Well I for one do get my porn online, for free.

I also doubt that everything you buy is completely ethical LFC.

so as porn consumers we should be aware of the right and wrong porn to purchase.

so really the argument is about clear information

not porn per se

Well said Custy

That pretty yuk normabutty - maybe I do buy nonethical bananas occasioally

Not QUITE the same as watching for free a person being raped

I'm not directing any comments at you anymore - too awful that you think thats ok

Elizabetth: is it your argument now that men could never and would never refuse sex? Of course men consent to sex (or refuse it) - because women initiate sex. Or are you going to suggest now that women who make the first move must all be damaged and deep in denial? Again, your generalisations about sex reveal your experience and understanding of human behaviour to be very limited: I suspect you're pretty young.

Custy - given thats its completely impossible to regulate properly - becuase the porn industry is so RICH (biggest american industry) the yes i think people should stay away from it as its not possible to be ethical

Unless you exchange home movies with someone you know personally or something

Well LFC, perhaps if you could get the porn industry to denote which people are acting and which are actually being raped I'll be more careful...

I don't think it's possible to have porn without exploitation. If you removed all the very young women, the poor women, the drug-addicted women, the women with rape and abuse in their backgrounds, the women with pimps pushing them forward from the workforce there would be hardly anyone left to appear in it. Porn and prostitution aren't career choices like becoming an engineer or a teacher or a nursery worker.

But even if you could find this willing fully consenting workforce, porn itself is degrading to women, it shows women being treated like objects by men (bukkake anybody? double penetraion?), as dehumanised sex machines who are ever ready and ever willing. It gives a very unrealistic view of sex.

Speaking of the very young though, what do the women here think about their partners using the perennially popular "barely legal" porn?