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How does everyone feel about p0rn?

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warmsummersday · 17/09/2007 19:58

Hi. Im feeling abit insecure at the mo, OH works away in the week and all I can think about for the past couple of weeks is porn and I don't like the idea of him looking at it. I don't know why. Obviuosly I know he looks at it, just like everyother tom dick and harry! I have some but for me to look at it is fine in my head. Can someone reasure me and make me feel better please?

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southeatsastras · 19/09/2007 23:05

only read op

porn is pretty crap

Heathcliffscathy · 19/09/2007 23:05

please do answer my questions/points elisabeth

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Lauriefairycake · 19/09/2007 23:06

A child doesn't know it's been degraded when it's sexually abused. That child is still being degraded.

You can 'train' someone to 'like' anything and I will only speak from my personal experience.

I had an awful childhood where there was inappropriate sexual stuff around and witnessed by me. This has meant that my brain/sexual map is now 'trained' to avoid intimacy and 'zone out' sexually.

I refused to accept that and instead have spent years retraining the damage done to me by persistently engaging in a loving relationship (and having lots of therapy and becoming a counsellor myself).

My husband and I do not look at porn, do not engage in purchasing it as the industry is exploitative (I don't buy non-free range eggs either ) and it would never be part of our loving relationship.

There are many studies showing how people become de-sentisised to it, many jury studies done about how womens clothing determines outcomes in rape cases.

I don't want to be part of that world so I wouldn't buy it.

Heathcliffscathy · 19/09/2007 23:07

elisabetth women piss on men in porn. they are on top a lot of the time. they dominate.

Elizabetth · 19/09/2007 23:07

Why would I love to show my body sophie?

I'm not an exhibitionist or an idiot who thinks that male attention is the only way for me to get in touch with my sexuality. Again I find this passive idea of a woman as an object to be looked at incredibly old-fashioned.

Heathcliffscathy · 19/09/2007 23:07

hahahahaha

pmsl

smallwhitecat · 19/09/2007 23:09

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nappynuttynormabutty · 19/09/2007 23:09

SWC - I am neither jaded nor dull in bed. That's rather offensive and once again a sweeping generalisation.

Elizabetth - the submissive person is generally the one with a lot of control. If oyu knew anything about sub/dom you'd know the submissive person can stop the act at any time by using a "safe" word. In addition, I'm not always the submissive one. I like to dominate too. Variety being the spice of life and all that.

southeatsastras · 19/09/2007 23:09

more porn for women i say

Elizabetth · 19/09/2007 23:09

Oh, so is male attention the only way you can get in touch with your sexuality? I find that a bit sad actually. It's a very limited way of relating to yourself, through the eyes of others.

PillockOfTheCommunity · 19/09/2007 23:10

I like showing my body to women Elizabeth, is that ok then?

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PillockOfTheCommunity · 19/09/2007 23:11

I think you'll find SWC that you are managing to offend quite a lot of people with your sweeping generalisations

Heathcliffscathy · 19/09/2007 23:12

right:

definition of facism - 'need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts'

your instincts decide for other CONSENTING ADULTS that the acts they perform are degrading....case in point.

elisabethh you've dismissed a whole centuries of veneration of the female (and male) form....who are you to declare that exhibitionism or worship of the female (or male) form is a) male lead or b) objectifying.

laughable.

nappynuttynormabutty · 19/09/2007 23:12

In addition we are not talking about peadophilia, which is illegal. Sorry about what happened to you LFC.

kneehighinnappies · 19/09/2007 23:12

"My husband and I do not look at porn" and your sure he doesn't?
He is a man after all and according to this lot that is what men do degrade women

Lauriefairycake · 19/09/2007 23:12

Because of what happened to me as a child I could easily have become one of the people on here, training myself to enjoy prostitution, rough sex etc.

I wonder how many really mentally healthy, fully actualised, centered, happy people there are on here who have had secure happy childhoods without abuse/absent parents/drug and alcohol dependencies/insecure childhoods.

Anyone ????? Genuinely asking......

I've never met anyone who liked pornography who wasn't fucked up in some way (seriously, and I've counselled hundreds of people)

PillockOfTheCommunity · 19/09/2007 23:14

please answer me Elizabeth. If it is very sad that "male attention the only way you can get in touch with your sexuality" then does it make it better that I like female attention too?

smallwhitecat · 19/09/2007 23:14

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nappynuttynormabutty · 19/09/2007 23:14

By Elizabetth on Wed 19-Sep-07 23:09:57
Oh, so is male attention the only way you can get in touch with your sexuality? I find that a bit sad actually. It's a very limited way of relating to yourself, through the eyes of others.

Err, actually I quite like to wank. I don't need a man around to do so.

Heathcliffscathy · 19/09/2007 23:14

Because of what happened to me as a child I could easily have become one of the people on here, training myself to enjoy prostitution, rough sex etc.

i'm SORRY????

laurie, you are very very wrong. please don't view the world based on your own experience. counselling should have taught you that.

Peshasofeight · 19/09/2007 23:14

" Frankly my own view is that people who use porn to get off are genrally quite jaded or, dare I say it, dull in bed?"

people who use porn

Which includes nutty and myself and many others here. We are well aware that that is your view as its certainly not fact thats for damn sure. But you are still saying you think we are jaded and dull. Nutty was saying she is not. Nor am I.

Elizabetth · 19/09/2007 23:15

Yes centuries of objectification which didn't do anything for women's sexuality - like I said, old-fashioned. We've only started talking about women's orgasms properly in about the past 40 years and even now a lot of women don't have them.

Veneration did sweet FA for women's sexual enjoyment sophable. A lot of blokes got to have a good time however.

PillockOfTheCommunity · 19/09/2007 23:15

ME Laurie. In fact, my mother works to help prevent teenage pregnancies. I think you'll find I have a very well-rounded view of sex. but I still like porn.

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