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OW/Emotional Affair - Please help me

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Cupcakesaregood · 10/04/2020 12:19

Hi everyone. First of all I'm sorry if I ramble, this is my first thread and I don't know what to do. H and I have been married 4 years in July. Found out I was pregnant a year after marriage, not planned but happy enough. Hard pregnancy. Found out that H had been having an emotional affair shortly before birth because I saw a WhatsApp message appear on his phone that I didn't recognise late at night so yes, I looked to discover hundreds of messages. I said to him in anger if he didn't stop I'd never let him see our child. He took the phone from my hands and blocked the number.

Things have been rocky ever since, when I go on WhatsApp I wonder why he's online and not speaking to me etc. Shortly after our 1 year olds birthday I couldn't get the idea of having another baby out of my head. I know probably not the wisest but always envisioned two. And now I'm pregnant. I was H phone the other night trying to find a code a friend sent to him in a message and I couldn't help myself, I looked through his messages from people to see if she was there. She wasn't. And then something told me to check the contacts. He doesn't have loads of people and then I saw her (her WhatsApp photo still the same from 2017 when I caught them that night) and she was under a different name. What do I do? Please help me. I haven't mentioned it to him yet - but why on earth is her number in there if it is over? Thanks for any advice x

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Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 11:09

@Dozycuntlaters don't be hard on yourself, the fact that you've come on a thread from a wife's POV and shared your story to help, says so much about your character. You deserve so much better and you will find it Thanks

@SandyY2K and @DBML have been so great to me on this with their honesty, even though it hasn't been what I've wanted to hear, it's been what I've needed to hear I'm so thankful to them Thanks

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Dozycuntlaters · 06/05/2020 11:21

@DBML thank you.

I don't think he's a con man, I just think that he was bored/unhappy and I pepped his life up and he thought he loved me but when push came to shove and he was made to retire he realised his feelings weren't real, or not real enough. I dunno, I feel sad and gutted or whatever but I know I'll be ok.

@Cupcakes thank you too, and thank you for not judging despite being in the situation you are in x

Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 11:25

@Dozycuntlaters he must have had feelings for you, 5 years is a long time..it wasn't out of boredom. I don't know if that makes you feel better or worse but if it was just boredom, you'd have been gone within months. Regardless, you can do a million times better x

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DBML · 06/05/2020 11:29

You’re welcome op. It’s always easier to see what’s happening when you’re not involved in the situation. And the answer is always so clear...to other people at least. I think that’s why some posters get frustrated.

But you are emotionally wrapped up in this. You love your husband and you don’t want to lose him. You’re simply not ready to give up yet. You won’t see the whole truth yet, because you don’t want to. And that’s ok.

Sadly this doesn’t make the situation any different. And the likelihood is that at some point he’ll make his choice and you won’t get a say in it.

I really hope you’ll find strength. You do deserve better than this. Can you imagine a relationship where you never even felt inclined to check someone’s phone? It never even crosses your mind? Can you imagine a partner who talks to you about how he’s feeling and makes you feel part of a two person team? Who only has eyes for you? Who you trust, just because you get that feeling that you can? Who never makes you feel second best, scared, or lonely in your relationship? I bet at the moment you’d even struggle to imagine this is possible. But it is!! Just not with your husband.

I like to look at it like this. You married the wrong guy...so what? It’s like buying a dress because it looked nice and felt nice in the shop at the time, but a year on it fits poorly and doesn’t make you look or feel great. It’s time for a new dress.

His actions are also not a reflection on you, so you have no shame to feel. They are a reflection on him and he’s the one who should feel shame and embarrassment, not you.

I think sometimes even good relationships can run their course and come to an end, let alone unhappy ones. Nothing wrong in that. It’s how people behave at this crucial time that matters and your husband is behaving appallingly.

But we can’t control others, no matter how hard we try. We can only control ourselves. So the question is, what will YOU do. Not him. You?

DBML · 06/05/2020 11:37

@Cupcakesaregood and @Dozycuntlaters

I’m not saying the AP didn’t have feelings involved, but those feelings would have been more about him.

For instance, if Dave meets a new exciting friend Sally, then Dave feels great. Dave is excited. Dave is happy. Dave May feel love even.

But Dave is just about what he feels. He’s not thinking ‘Do I make Sally feel loved?’ ‘Do I make Sally happy?’

That’s why affairs are always selfish. It’s all a big lie, even when the AP doesn’t even realise they are lying themselves. That’s why I call it a con and him a conman.

When you feel love for someone, true love, there is no choice that can’t be made.

I learnt this watching my darling sister go through the most devastating 10 years! Of her life. And there was nothing I could do to make it better. I’m thankful that she has had her happy ending since.

Sending 💐 to both of you.

Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 11:39

@DBML I know what you're saying. I think because he went along with trying for number 2 that maybe she didn't mean anything, that's honestly how I feel. But I was the driving force. Do I think it was a case of having his cake and eating it, he's sleeping with me and he has whatever with her? If I'm honest with you and myself? No because he's not happy here.

I know I need to think about our future/my future I'm just trying to take it a little at a time. My one friend that knows absolutely everything says that he is only stalling for time before he goes back to her, he's more scared of losing her otherwise he'd have got rid completely or told her about the pregnancy

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MsPavlichenko · 06/05/2020 11:39

Cupcakesaregood By taking control I didn't mean that you'll get your preferred outcome. But you will have laid your line in the sand. Knowing this will mean you can begin to move on. You have no control over him, regardless of how long you wait. He has all the power here. Ironically you taking some back, and really making him confront the consequences of his actoons/choices might be the catalyst for him choosing to try to salvage your relationship ( if you still want to). Continuing with this half life will make you ill I fear.

Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 11:40

@DBML love to your sister and so pleased she is happy now Thanks

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Dozycuntlaters · 06/05/2020 11:53

@DMBL When you feel love for someone, true love, there is no choice that can’t be made yes totally agree, so I think that even though he convinced himself he really loved me, he didn't. Not once the convenience was gone, think I just got him through the working week.

I'm glad your sister got her happy ending. I did 5.5 years and if he hadn't retired I could easily see it would have got to 10. We live and learn hey.

L0bstersLass · 06/05/2020 11:55

You can read twitter without having an account. I'd imagine he's got an account so that they can DM each other.

ILuvQuarintinis · 06/05/2020 12:16

Regardless, you can do a million times better

What a joke .

Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 12:16

@ILuvQuarintinis you're disgusting. Go away, how dare you.

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Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 12:18

@ILuvQuarintinis how dare you make judgements on someone. She has been kind enough and brave enough to post on here so go and troll on someonelses thread. You haven't come here to offer advice or to help, you've just been nasty. Get lost

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Dozycuntlaters · 06/05/2020 12:48

@ILuvQuarintinis do fuck off dear. Whether it's right or wrong I was just trying to show cupcakes the other side of all this. She's been kind enough to not judge and understand what I've said, clearly a lot more mature than you.

And actually I CAN do a million times better and regardless of what I got mixed up I'm clearly a much nice person than you. Go and hoik your judge pants elsewhere, careful you don't give yourself a wedgy.

Thank you Cupcakes

ILuvQuarintinis · 06/05/2020 13:07

You both missed my point which is the OP telling someone else that she can do a million times better while not seeming to apply that to herself Shock Why would you do that ?

Trichford · 06/05/2020 13:08

@ILuvQuarintinis I read it as you were kind of meaning take your own advice.

Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 13:09

@ILuvQuarintinis please don't be patronising, if that's what you actually meant, you would have put it in a much better way than how you did. Don't backtrack because we stood up to you. Not interested in speaking to you

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Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 13:11

@Trichford ok. Well it should have been worded much better than it was.

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ILuvQuarintinis · 06/05/2020 13:11

@Trichford exactly !

Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 13:15

@ILuvQuarintinis so why didn't you say that then? Rather than word it how you did

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ILuvQuarintinis · 06/05/2020 13:24

I get that you are looking for people to lash out at so go ahead . TBH I don't blame you because of your situation . I will certainly spell it out for you . I couldn't give a toss about dozy and her long affair and certainly did not pass a judgement on that . What I found ironic was you telling a woman who had had a long affair with a married man that she deserved better while you live in this situation yourself . Don't you deserve better ?

ILuvQuarintinis · 06/05/2020 13:29

But really you are going to go on and on inflicting this on yourself hoping that your H will realise that he does in fact love you . You are being reactive currently and not proactive but hey it is your life . You do seem very much in control as regards your feelings and reminds me of another saga on here with the poster seeking endless affirmation and sympathy from people while ignoring others. Best of luck going forward .

Cupcakesaregood · 06/05/2020 13:32

@ILuvQuarintinis you haven't once given any sort of advice. You've been a troll from the beginning so run along. I have listened to people who have told me things I don't want to hear and I've taken it. I'm not lashing out at anyone, you knew what you were saying, if you were meaning it any other way, you'd have worded it better. I was defending someone who was brave enough to post. Go away

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Bunnyfuller · 06/05/2020 13:46

I don’t think this is just an emotional affair.

I don’t think he ever ended it

I don’t think he agreed to another baby because he’s committed to your marriage.

One baby won’t fix a marriage, 2 will even more not fix the marriage.

Look at your financial situation, start preparing to end the marriage. This will not improve. What if he gets her pregnant?

Out of curiosity I would call her! (Once you’ve secured things financially)

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