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The Happy Singleton- Part Two

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mildlymiffed · 01/03/2020 22:47

Ta-dah! Welcome to all our happily (sometimes, admittedly, less so!) single peeps! All welcome, whether your recently singled or a long-term singleton.

We've got this solo thing sorted (-ish!)

@misty9 do your thang!

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SirChing · 11/04/2020 22:40

@Eesha No worries re PMs. I am off to bed now but will definitely read and reply tomorrow. Night.

Misty9 · 11/04/2020 22:44

@SirChing you're too kind Blush I don't think I've gone through anything more than most on this thread though. I have indeed treated myself to a delivery roast dinner, bottle of wine and dark choc lindt bunny for my easter Sunday. So I'm feeling chuffed about that. I did a hunt for the kids today, with clues I thought up at midnight last night! I was quite proud of myself. Things with my DS have taken a dive but that's to be expected I suppose. It's hard not to beat myself up and think we're back to square one, but I have at least got a break until weds now. I had dd for a few hours and overnight tonight and it was lovely spending some time together.

On the subject of men, I had a tinder match today who straight away suggested sexting 😂 not sure what on earth he wants with a grumpy single mum and he's probably married. Will see if he persists! I'm quite looking forward to hunkering down for some me time after a stressful few days.

I'm rubbish at remembering who said what, but hope all are doing okay and you get lots of chocolate tomorrow if that's what you'd want. Or Gin Grin

Upyerbum70 · 11/04/2020 22:47

Yup waiting is def the way forward. I never meet people in real life - always online - so this Mr M/bike thing is all a bit weird. Yes, I was a bit smiley /chatty/oh so humourous but didn’t actually expect a positive response. I was just trying to make a good impression in the new team. But I’d really like a slow burning friendship. We text - always instigated by me- so I leave days between conversations. But he responds with long, funny sweet messages and asks me how I’m doing. But it’s all very safe. Back in work on Wednesday where I feel a bit awkward around him. Doh . I need a good shaking.

Aminuts23 · 11/04/2020 23:26

Hi there. I’m a happy singleton at the moment, have been quite a long time now. I just wanted to share a WTF story with you. Feel free to cringe or giggle, whatever. So many years ago when I was much younger at college in the first week or so I had a ONS with a guy in my class. Didn’t think a lot more about it really, he was very much part of the ‘in crowd’. He didn’t acknowledge me after. I didn’t dwell on it. Thought he was a prick to be honest. A year or two later we’ll after college finished I bumped into him on a night out. He was a bit friendlier not surrounded by the ‘in crowd’ that night. The ONS thing happened again. Again he was a bit of a tit in the morning. I went home and didn’t think much more about it. (This isn’t how I live my life 20+ years on by the way 🤣). Anyhow so last month I started a new job, he’s only my fucking BOSS!!!! 😱😱😱 He went to shake my hand on my first day and I had to point out that actually we’d met before. The few seconds it took for the colour to drain out of his face and mine was quite funny.

Upyerbum70 · 11/04/2020 23:41

@Aminuts23 absolutely no sodding way! Argh. How has it been at work since the face draining handshake?

Aminuts23 · 11/04/2020 23:47

@Upyerbum70 it’s been ok actually as we got told to work from home not long after. He’s been professionally fine and quite funny but I hope he realises that in an unspoken way he’s still a tit Grin

SirChing · 12/04/2020 06:04

Ha @Aminuts23 that's hilarious! Glad it isn't too bad now though.

@Upyerbum70 - right, you need to ask Mr Motorbike out for a drink when this social distancing thing is over. If he isn't interested then he will make an excuse. But it's plain as day that he likes you.

@Misty9 I thoroughly approve of your delivery decisions! And all stuff with kids goes backwards as well as forwards. DD has mild autism and I went through a year of hell with her. But we got out the other side. You will get through it too. Maybe with the help of a lot of booze, but you will! And at least your time alone gives you chance to regroup from them.

Happy Easter to everyone. May you all be blessed with copious eggs!

Accidentalaccountant · 12/04/2020 06:59

Happy Easter all. x

Eesha · 12/04/2020 07:49

@Aminuts23 Arghhhhhhh! So funny!!!

chockaholic72 · 12/04/2020 08:24

Happy Easter all. Went for a long, very early walk as I couldn’t sleep, and saw a wild deer! Looking on the bright side, if I’d been coupled up this person would have been with me and we’d have been wittering on and scared it off, or we wouldn’t have even been up and I’d have been giving him an Easter surprise (well, one can dream). So there are upsides to being single.

@SirChing - my house is also a tip. I’m finding it really hard to concentrate on anything at the moment - work or house stuff - so I’ve done two lists on a sheet of paper; long jobs and short jobs. Got three short and one long done yesterday, so that’s a start.

Upyerbum70 · 12/04/2020 09:04

@chocaholic I’m pretty envious of your deer spotting. How uplifting! I’m right on the edge of the city centre and the closest thing I get to wildlife are foxes which still gets me excited.

I’m having problems sleeping at the moment - never had issues before- so consequently I’m shattered. Kids woke me with pancakes and chatter this morning which is lovely but I’m a zombie. Happy Easter everyone.

Misty9 · 12/04/2020 15:00

Happy Easter all! @chockaholic72 I'm very jealous of your wild deer sighting - and a commendable reframe of being single enabling you to see it.

@Aminuts23 that is hilarious and I love your attitude Grin

@SirChing I hope you're having a lovely day and not thinking about the clutter and cleaning today Flowers

I'm pleased to report I'm having a lovely day. Dropped dd this morning then a cycle ride to the local nature reserve (which was busier than piccadilly circus!) followed by the most amazing roast dinner I've ever had courtesy of a local restaurant, finishing my jigsaw whilst listening to relaxing music in my sunny living room. And now eating a dark choc lindt bunny 🐰

If only I didn't have a pesky report to write, today would be pretty much perfect... Ah well!

BuddhaAtSea · 13/04/2020 04:16

@SirChing DD is a teenager, not quite as cute as a 9 year old, but very useful to share household chores with 😂.
Try making sure the kitchen and lounge are spotless before you go to bed, I find this helps with the general tidiness. Maybe. Or it might just be in my head?

Ok, the thing with exP is that he has a personality disorder. He fluctuates between being the most empathetic person to total lack of empathy. We were together for 3 years, we broke up a couple of times during this time, to me, seemingly out of nowhere. I just didn’t see where it came from. Because it did come from absolutely nowhere. He is very much completely nuts.
We are THE best friends ever. We meditate, do pilates, swim, read, cook, laugh, talk, gossip, watch movies together, he is an absolute delight, very very smart, fun and easy to be around with. And he totally gets my need to line up cutlery in the dishwasher tray in a certain way. So all good.
From time to time, he flips. He is paranoid and thinks I am using him. He’s addicted to porn, not a stranger to ‘visiting escorts’, I made it a very clear ‘NO WAY’ boundary and while he was with me he had to stop. Because in my silly mind, people have pasts, but they can change. He wanted to change, so he took steps in that direction. It was a long and painful journey, I let him sort it. But I know for a fact he did not use porn or cheated on me while we were together. But he began resenting me, the minute I understood that, I broke up with him. I am not interested in being anybody’s counsellor/mother but my own child’s, so I had to let him go.
He hit rock bottom. He also went back to his old ways after 4 years. I saw him often during that time and that haunted look on his face told me to stay the fuck away. We continued to be friends, we’re part of a club together, exchanged pleasantries but nothing more. He’d drop the odd chocolate or book he knew I’d love, or text me to ask if we could do this or that race, kept me informed about his family events.
Then the lockdown came. I am frontline. He did a couple of shops for me, cooked my/our favourite food, helped as much as he could. I didn’t ask him, he just did it naturally. He also listened and understood the harrowing times I’m going through at work.
As a friend, I adore him. He’s great.
As a partner though, he’s got too many issues. We’re good together, but then he needs to keep a very close eye on his mental health and I can’t/won’t be his crutch. I have zero bullshit tolerance and no patience whatsoever for his neediness.

This whole corona situation has shifted something in me at a fundamental level. I was telling him I want to cut down my hours (at the moment I work 50-60h a week), I want to settle down, I want a simple and uncomplicated life, with walks at the weekend with the dog, baking, just simple things. He responded with a ‘do you want to get married’?
He missed the bit where he is anything but simple to live with.
So that’s where we are 🤷🏻‍♀️

SirChing · 13/04/2020 08:28

Morning everyone! Also slightly envious of your deer @chockaholic72! And your pancakes @Upyerbum70. Hooray for having a good day @Misty9, maybe things are finding their balance a but?

@BuddhaAtSea oooh that sounds complicated. Is his PD diagnosed by a psychiatrist or psychologist? From all that you have written, it sounds like you are amazing as friends and brilliant together, right up to the point of romantic and emotional involvement. At which point paranoia, trust issues and addiction come into play.

The thing is, if you are just in a friendship at the moment, you won't see those elements of him. Would they come surging back if you were romantically involved again? I suppose I am asking, has he really changed or has just being mates made those negative traits non-applicable?

People with PD's can and do change over time if they put in the work necessary. Having said that, it seems to be rare.

Its the drink analogy again - if a drink was 95% brilliant and 5% shit, would you drink it? Especially if you know in advance that the 5% has a really negative effect on you?

Whatever you choose to do, protect your heart and don't expect him to have changed in any fundamental way unless he has had lots of professional input Flowers

SirChing · 13/04/2020 08:31

@BuddhaAtSea and that is excellent advice about the lounge and kitchen. I shall do that. Thank you!

SirChing · 13/04/2020 08:43

Oh, and also @BuddhaAtSea, it sounds very much like he changed his ways when you were together, but for you, not for himself. The fact he resented you for it and went back to it makes that clear.

Sexuality is something which is pretty hardwired as a compulsion within us, so his desire for porn and escorts would only shift if he wanted to work on that to change it for himself, not for anyone else.

Could you come to terms with him using those so you could have a relationship where he can be truly who he is? Most people couldn't and that's understandable.

Upyerbum70 · 13/04/2020 22:38

Good evening and a merry bank holiday Monday to you all. Hope you’re not crawling the walls too much.

Cringe update re Mr Motorbike. One of our team decided to experiment with technology and had a group chat last night. Only me & Mr Motorbike picked up so we three had a chat. She spent the whole chat playing Cupid - and I was dying with embarrassment. She took a screenshot of me and him and posted it on the group chat with a lovey dovey comment. So ..my softly softly approach is blown out of water. How she knew is beyond me. He thought it was funny and wasn’t fighting it, which I suppose is good. But I was sat in my scruffy fleecy and pjs looking like shite. Anyway. Thought my embarrassing moment might bring a smile. Being single is so much easier.

Stay safe and well all.

SirChing · 13/04/2020 23:44

@Upyerbum70 Of course he wasn't fighting it......because he fancies you! Why not just ask him if he wants to go for a drink or grab something to eat when all this is over? If he says no, then you can say you were just being friendly (though even when I am only being friendly, men still seem to think I want to shag them!). I bet he is flattered though and says yes.

Also, don't worry about it being awkward if he says no. It's already awkward anyway. You might as well feel awkward and know where you stand. Go for it! You will kick yourself if he meets someone else due to thinking you aren't interested. He suggested it would have been nice to meet up while you are off, so the ball is in your court now. As Nike say: Just Do It!

Eesha · 14/04/2020 04:32

@BuddhaAtSea your ex sounds amazing but I can totally see where you are coming from with your reservations. Do you think this relationship stops you meeting others, as it was so great in other ways. It reminds me a bit of my FWB who has ADHD. He was married for years but that resentment made him leave the relationship in the end and he told me recently that his wife wanted him to grow up but he never wanted to (and still doesn't!). I think these people are wonderful in so many ways but sometimes you just have to see them for what they are as I don't think they change. My FWBs ex met a great guy afterwards who sounds lovely/sensible and kind and I think that suits her. She must still pine for the fun side she had but my FWB still continues to live like a teenager, the man who never grows up.

BuddhaAtSea · 14/04/2020 05:29

We’re giving this guy way too much headspace 😂
He was diagnosed as a sociopath in his teen years (back in the days). Which he completely rejected as being nonsense, and his parents dismissed as being a phase, he’ll get his shit together at some point.
What followed was years of battling various addictions, depression and a pretty fucked up relationship with his family. Extended input from mental health services etc. No friends, no social life etc. Met this poor girl and treated her like shit for years. She put up with him for some reason and he thought that’s what normal relationships are.
When we met, I was out of a 20 odd years marriage, I have a pretty good idea of what I want, what I don’t want. At the time, I was happy with the company, we discovered lots of things we love together but I wasn’t after settling down or anything, it was just nice and pleasant and very enriching.
I’m a strong character, one of those people who comes across as having their shit together. For me the whole porn/escorts is a definite deal breaker. No ifs, no buts. I suppose I chose to ignore that aspect of him, you want to stick around mate, you cut that crap. We’re both middle aged, we have a past. I think he is now changing for himself. It was all woe is me when he had an audience, take that away and in the stark light of day, it shook him to see he’s messed up.
@Eesha, I am still figuring out things, but nothing would stop me from working towards the life I want to have. I decided last year after I broke up with him that I want a year to focus on myself, to start looking after my body and mind, I’ve been doing this for 6 months now, I am loving life. A partner wasn’t on the cards, exP definitely wasn’t 😂.
Anyway.
@Upyerbum70 awww, he’s definitely into you!!! Just enjoy, take it easy and go with the flow.
@SirChing how did the tidying up go last night?

Eesha · 14/04/2020 08:17

@BuddhaAtSea i see it all more clearly now, you do sound like you are clear on what you want which is brilliant!

Ok today peeps, I am going to try this low carb mallarkey. I have one friend in my ear FaceTiming me regularly saying how much weight she is losing and has made me think I need to try and lose a bit of weight too! Plus every single fit bloke I've chatted to has said they got their 6 packs through excluding carbs. Now I have written it here, I can't go back so bye bye mashed potatoes, we were so great together!

RishiSunakFanClub · 14/04/2020 13:26

I'm so please to see this thread going strong. I've recommended it to a few people on other boards and hope they have found it helpful.

As I said back in part one - those who live the longest are single women and married men. Is anyone surprised on here? I'm not.

Reading about some of the awful relationships on here, I hope people find a way out and can learn to enjoy the single life. It doesn't have to be forever, but it can be good while it lasts.

Hoping you are all keeping safe and well.

Mulberry974 · 14/04/2020 14:12

Hello all,

Am feeling really quite thankful that I live alone. I've heard so many people struggling with relationships right now feeling claustrophobic (and that's the normal happy couples). Oddly I don't feel lonely, partly because I'm good at my own company but also I'm hearing far more from friends and family right now as they are more aware of the situation we're all in. Sending flowers and chocolate to anyone who needs it

Misty9 · 14/04/2020 16:31

Hi all. What is it, day 21 of lockdown? I'm struggling today. Work stuff didn't happen so my day feels a bit aimless. Also had therapy which was hard going and now I could really do with a hug and a cry. I keep thinking it's X hours until bedtime and how much I could achieve in that time vs what I likely will achieve. Not helpful I know!

Right, I'm going to make myself go out now for some fresh air. Hope all are coping okay

Eesha · 14/04/2020 21:06

@Misty9 sorry you were feeling that way. I was a bit like that one Monday, just a pointless day and freezing too! I guess things will ebb and flow for us all during this strange time. Nothing wrong with being organised though. I always run through what I've achieved in the day and pat myself on the back regardless!!!

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