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I think H has or is about to put tracker on my car

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PressToChange · 20/02/2020 21:12

I went in to Hs bedroom to put son's new Fitbit type watch on charge. Out of the cables I didn't know which but saw one had a label which said Trackisafe and a code.
I googled it. It's a mini tracking device. It needs two apps, the Trackisafe one and a V for Vodafone app.
We have Apple so I can see he has purchased both apps. I managed to get hold of his phone very briefly and he has downloaded and set up both apps. I couldn't get on there long enough to see maps.
I also found the box, opened it and the tracker isn't in the box.
I went out to the car while he was out saying I needed to get all the rubbish out if there. Lots of dc so easy to be true. I couldn't find anything.
It's half term and we are both at home.
From the date of app purchase a coupe of weeks ago, I'm guessing he either removed it before half term or will put it in after school starts again.
I cannot confront him as I don't have firm evidence. Plus I don't want him to know I can get on his phone.
Background is before Christmas in 2018 he hit me, I called police. He has a caution for assault. I now know I have been living in a controlling coercive marriage. (Not trying to down play. It's utterly shit. Just being factual to keep post as short as possible)
In Sept when I told him I was serious about divorce he cut me out of his bank account. Apparently we haven't needed a joint account I could just access his but no more.
At Christmas I told him I would endure it with him and then start divorce proceedings.
The Friday before I know he purchased the apps and most likely took delivery of the tracker I told him we have to draw this to a close. No one is happy etc. It is going to end up in divorce.
He is in COMPLETE denial.
I think he is a narcissist in the true clinical definition, I'm not just calling names.
I have a solicitor appointment booked for next week.
What do I do? What should I do? What is likely to happen to him because if I do find a tracker I won't touch it but will drive to the nearest police station. What if I never find a tracker I just strongly suspect it?
Please be kind. I know this is not right and needs to be over but because of the way he is have been doing baby steps trying to do things gently and safely rather than full on. I do not live in fear day to day but am concerned he could be volatile. He had had mental health issues too.

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WhatTiggersDoBest · 20/02/2020 21:35

Have you taken photos/screenshots of all the evidence, e.g. taken a photo with your phone of the app installed on his phone, take a screenshot of the page on your Apple account where he bought the app, get a photo or video of the tracker box and the fact it's empty inside. Send those pictures to someone you trust. Also send them to the police.

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NemophilistRebel · 20/02/2020 21:35

Good luck OP

Check under carpets in boot pockets, there’s so many hidden cubby holes

Feel underneath seats and under the dash.
Could be as simple as hidden within a price of rubbish in the glove box.

Police would also be able to give advise on where it could be.

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HavenDilemma · 20/02/2020 21:36

@PressT**@PressToChange It's not that they're 'trained' to remove trackers, it's that they have car lifts (or pits) to enable them to get a clear view of the underneath of your car

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ivykaty44 · 20/02/2020 21:37

Tbh if you start do things differently, you’re going to start raising his suspicions which is going to make things on edge and more dangerous for you

He’s already suspicious of nothing, you start changing your routine it’ll add fuel to the fire

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ravenmum · 20/02/2020 21:38

If you have the box, maybe it has the codes in it, and you could put the app on yoour own phone and locate the tracker via the app?

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Runbikeswim · 20/02/2020 21:41

Good idea Ravenmum

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category12 · 20/02/2020 21:41

Don't confront him and don't alert him that you know.

If you can find it, great, leave it where it is and keep it in mind. Only if you're doing something you don't want him to know about, you could remove it and then replace it when you're back.

Speak to Women's Aid/domestic abuse services about leaving safely.

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Runbikeswim · 20/02/2020 21:42

It probably attaches magnetically so here are limited places to put it on a modern car.

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JKScot4 · 20/02/2020 21:42

This type of tracker isn’t magnetic under car like you see on tv, they are for in suitcases, laptop bags etc, more likely to be down seats, in the boot well, it’s very small literally palm of your hand.

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Butterymuffin · 20/02/2020 21:42

No advice OP but be very careful, stay safe, get yourself out. Flowers

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Runbikeswim · 20/02/2020 21:43

X post !

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Poppi89 · 20/02/2020 21:49

This is really worrying! I don't understand why you're still there. Can you not move out before you get a divorce/ see a solicitor?

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Troels · 20/02/2020 21:50

Check the lining of your handbag too. If it's not magnetic and that tiny. My bag is full of junk I'd never know it's in the lining.

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Emmelina · 20/02/2020 21:51

Taking it to a garage that also does tyres would be a good cover. You got a nail in the tyre, if he asks. The garage might even mock up a repair invoice for you to cover the fact they had the car over the pit to find the tracker! Could probably use them as an excuse for finding it too. “They found this, it can only have come from you”..

Good luck. Contacting police and women’s aid sound like very sensible suggestions from PP!

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Avocadohips · 20/02/2020 21:56

I'm worried that he will be able to see this post somehow. Please be careful.

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PressToChange · 20/02/2020 21:56

As a precaution I've changed all passwords again including Apple ID.
I have got screen shots of the cable, the box in situs, the box opened, the apps purchased, the apps on his phone.
I do know that what he's doing is wrong. What stops me speaking to the Police is that I need advice, I would like them to be aware incase god forbid I phone 999 it would be treated seriously.
I need to exit this situation carefully, safely and I think if the Police were to interact with him at this stage it might be a incendiary. I don't think he is stable, but day to day if anyone met him he would appear utterly charming and if anyone has had any experience with a true narcissist, they would know they are expert at getting the other sane person to sound unhinged.
I tried women's aid chat earlier today and it failed twice, there is only a short window of time so I will try again tomorrow.
Social services were involved after his arrest. When they spoke to me they told me to get a grab bag. By the time they'd spoken to him and were leaving told me to get my bloods checked as I was of a certain age. This is what I mean about him. Charming. A really nice guy. Believable and honest to a fault. In public.

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NemophilistRebel · 20/02/2020 21:57

You don’t have any linked / shared devices ?

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PressToChange · 20/02/2020 21:59

I've changed my id and logged out of anything linked. I had previously done this so think I'm ok but did it again as a precaution.

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ivykaty44 · 20/02/2020 21:59
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NemophilistRebel · 20/02/2020 22:00

Is he at home with you now?

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category12 · 20/02/2020 22:01

Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about finding it.

Empty your bag/coat to make sure it's not in there, but assuming it is in your car - just do your normal routine and if you're doing something different, leave the car somewhere innocuous and walk/get a taxi.

Knowing he's doing this puts you a step ahead.

Absolutely don't tell him if you find it or confront him about it in any way.

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Alicenwonderland · 20/02/2020 22:07

Please contact Women's aid for advice on leaving safely. They can talk you through police ect. In my experience police reports are very helpful after you've split if they go for custody. Don't discuss it with him, if he's a narcissist you need to be very careful as I'm sure you're aware. They are much worse and will escalate after you split. Stay safe

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YesIDoLoveCrisps · 20/02/2020 22:09

If it’s that small in could be in your purse or even a shoe. Not necessarily your car.

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PressToChange · 20/02/2020 22:09

Thanks @ivykaty44. Makes for interesting reading.
@catagory12 yes, checked coat and bag and nothing. I have bought a new handbag and will use that and a different coat from Monday to be certain.
If I had absolute proof, like finding a tracker on my car then I would go straight to the police. It's the half way position of knowing he's doing something. By the way it is my car and registered to me only and I pay the loan for it so he can't say it's my car I can track it if I like.
From what I could see in the brief time I had his phone he had set a virtual perimeter around my place of work so he is notified when the tracker goes in and out. My place of work is named and I also have a picture of his phone displaying that.
He's definitely intending to or had tracked me.
He is at home with me but we live separately in the same house so I'm not near him.
I did think of buying a camera for the car which takes images if motion is detected.

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