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Husband grieving for OW

999 replies

Filly2011 · 14/02/2020 21:25

Anyone had experience of this?
Husband had 14 month affair with woman at work. Told me about it when she finally dumped him in favour of her husband. DH says he wants to keep marriage and willing to work at it. After months of counselling he now admits he is very upset as still loves her and knows he’s lost her. I feel very cut up by this. Can’t stop thinking about it.

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Cambionome · 21/02/2020 14:57

Does he accept any blame or responsibility for what he has done?? Confused

Filly2011 · 21/02/2020 15:03

@cambionome no it appears he doesn’t. He says my cold behaviour made him have an affair and now I’m unreasonably upset about it.

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SchadenfreudePersonified · 21/02/2020 15:03

how about you respond 'yep you're totally right mate, good luck finding your princess, now fuck off'

As above.

I’ve been angry it doesn’t get me anywhere.

It gets you a damn sight further than depression, self-blame and trying to make a self-obsessed narcissist think of anyone's pain except his own.

Don't get mad - get even! are words to live by now. He will never make you happy - all he wants is a safety-net and an elastoplast for his bruised ego.

He's a shit. Flush him.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 21/02/2020 15:10

Now he’s saying she and I as bad as each other, he’s sick of both of us, exhausted and just doesn’t know what he wants any more.

Careful!

He's trying to make you think you are in with a chance so he can reel you back. He doesn't like that you are thinking for yourself and not following his script.

Keep clear of him.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 21/02/2020 15:11

OP, please get angry, really angry, with this fucker. He is a sorry excuse for a man. He is gaslighting you, bullying you and playing the victim. He is an A1 manipulator.

Be open with everyone about him. He has had an affair and is expecting you to suck it up. Well he is in for a shock. You owe this bastard nothing. Tell people and let them realise what a piece of shit he is.

Today is the start of the rest of your life. Work towards a brighter life where you are free of this manipulative bastard. Remember, get angry and stay angry. It will help you deal with him over the next few months.

MyCatHatesEverybody · 21/02/2020 15:17

Knocks the whole “I’ve met my soul mate blahdy blah” apart - unless soul mate always to be at hand throughout life!

Remember what you said above as a reminder that you don't need this man in your life as even an acquaintance let alone a husband when there are a lot of much nicer people out there!

And stop giving his opinions any credence, he has assigned you to the role of bad guy in the script of his life and anything you say or do to the contrary = BAD. The OW has been assigned the role of damsel in distress so anything she does = GOOD. He is of course playing the part of her knight in shining armour. Anything he says to you e.g him sitting in his flat crying is all part of his script. Regard his words for what they are - fiction - and write the screenplay to your own life instead of being a bit player in his.

Dozer · 21/02/2020 15:19

It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t know what he wants.

OW doesn’t want him.
When you think about it you won’t want him.

Such is his lot!

AcrossthePond55 · 21/02/2020 15:26

Indifference, remember?

This is where fake it til you make it comes in. Tell yourself you don't care. Act as if you don't care. Believe that you don't care. It's an effort, I know, but try and keep trying.

Guardsman18 · 21/02/2020 15:34

Dear God Filly. I've known some hard and selfish people in my time and have been selfish myself when I was younger but I have never heard of such disgusting behaviour towards another human being.

I am rooting for you as are all mn'ers (?) Please, please move on from this horrible man. I am soooo angry on your behalf.

Filly2011 · 21/02/2020 15:49

@Dozer I begun to feel that if it’s not OW it will be someone else.
He just hasn’t met anyone yet.

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candycane222 · 21/02/2020 16:04

Ugh. Don't talk to him, don't listen to him. Don't acknowledge his low-down, slimy, belly-crawling existence. Don't give him the time of day. He needs to fuck off out of your life, he really does.

Filly2011 · 21/02/2020 16:09

Yes I realised at the therapist that I don’t want to be told to only interact with him once a week. I don’t want to be told what to do by him.
If I feel like contacting him or not is up to me surely.
I doNt want to accept the terms of his shitty separation and instructions to never mention She Who Must Never Be Mentioned. Why shouldn’t I mention her?

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Filly2011 · 21/02/2020 16:12

Thing is I am a person who really suffers if there’s bad feeling or arguments. My natural inclination is to apologise and try to put it right even if I’ve done nothing wrong.
So all this separation stuffis like an awful black cloud over me.
I need to find the strength to happily cut him off.

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MyCatHatesEverybody · 21/02/2020 16:21

I know it's a cliche but time will be the healer if you can summon up the strength to keep your interactions to a minimum. When I left my abusive exH I still felt guilty about it despite me being the one to pull the plug - lord knows how you feel when you're the one this is being done to. After all, he's way ahead of you in this process. But my Ex moved on, I moved on, I only think about him nowadays in reference to threads like this. You'll get there but it's early days so don't expect too much of yourself right now.

Lunde · 21/02/2020 16:22

You have been through a lot and your H's selfish "woe is me for not getting my way" is just making everything feel worse. You need to stop feeling that you need to obey his rules. Why listen to his self-centred whining? - time to cut contact

I think the time has come to consult with a solicitor and serve divorce papers

thewreckofthehesperus · 21/02/2020 16:49

One of my favourite sayings that I heard while going through my own divorce from a narcissistic arsehole was this. ‘Arguing with an unreasonable person is like wrestling with a pig, you get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

As reasonable people it’s very hard to understand some one responding to you so unreasonably. His responses are all based in his own version of reality which seems to be a complete work of fiction!
I know this is difficult and unjust and you want to rage against him and hold him up in front of everyone you know so he can admit his faults and his wrongdoing but unfortunately he’s showing you that this is very unlikely. Instead he’s re-writing history with you as the cold hearted wife and him as the poor lickle unloved man. As unjust as this is and as difficult a pill to swallow I’m afraid that’s part of the script, they can’t bear to be seen as being at fault or bad people so it all get turned around on you and suddenly it’s your fault. God forbid he take any responsibility.

People who have affairs are lower than low, especially when it involves someone who was in your friend circle. The selfishness it takes to cut someone off and disregard their needs and feelings while off having a jolly with another person is staggering. You can’t cultivate two relationships at once, it’s just not possible and he made the conscious decision to let you suffer wondering about the state of your marriage, trying to keep everything together and still performing in the ‘wifely’ role. All the while he had her for fun, sex, and emotional support.

You need to remember that you get to be the star of your own life, everybody deserves love, kindness and emotional support from a partner. He doesn’t get to bemoan how unhappy he was because he had the choice to leave, freeing you both up to find happiness with someone new or even as singletons.
He took that choice away from you and that is what’s unforgiveable. I would advise stop giving him a platform for his bullshit, it’s not doing your mental health any favours and you need to protect yourself now. I’m glad you’re seeing a counsellor and I hope your finding your sessions helpful.
Take control of the situation, he’s made his position clear so now follow through. Find a shit hot lawyer, I would tell you to get some distance from him, maybe give him a new number or email address and tell him he’s only to contact you there. Check it once a week and deal with stuff as it comes through.
At the very least cut him off if he starts off on one of his rants again and tell him you don’t want to hear it, you know what happened and you don’t want to re-hash it every time you speak to him just so he can make himself feel better.

Also start telling people, I know this is hard and it makes it very real but it will help in the long term and allow you to get some real life support from friends and your children. Take care of yourself this is a horrible position to be in Flowers

Mix56 · 21/02/2020 17:08

You need to serve him the divorce papers, It will be cathartic to control this., you can say,
^"I am worth more than this, I was prepared to try to save this thing of your making, but wasn't allowed time to heal. You havn't accepted that I was never a monster, just the same old me you have known from being a teenager/young adult, we grew together, we worked together to build a family, raise the DC, but your ego grew with your company, you decided you were important & happily shagged the OW who was stroking your ego & your rekindled randyness to get work contracts, pretty much like a prostitute. But now, I am done, I have been rejected, I am hurting, but I am nobodies fool, & I know the truth about our marriage, how much effort you put in, & who was there everyday keeping the home fires burning.
I will not be punished, this is stopping here. From here on you can communicate via my solicitor."^

SpringFan · 21/02/2020 18:56

What Mix 56 said.

SalmonOfKnowledge · 21/02/2020 19:16

I agree.

Self-efficacy is a large part of self-esteem. All the self-care in the world won't cement a healthy self-esteem if you see yourself having no control over your life. If you take control now it will definitely boost your sense of self-efficacy which will then boost your self - worth.

yOU CAN continue to digest what has happened after you've served the papers, but as a woman who was worth more than the hell he's put you through, and not as a woman sticking around to be a dismissed second

springydaff · 21/02/2020 19:47

You poor poor thing. What an absolute TURD he is. Truly revolting!

Onwards and upwards. You may feel dead to your marrow (that will pass), hurt beyond belief (ditto), but you have the moral high ground : you committed to a man, your marriage, with all your heart and he has shat all over it with his bit of fluff and his execrable whining. YUK.

What I love about this, with a glee I shouldn't, is he's going to end up with nobody. Not the floosy, not the committed and faithful wife. Shame!

MrsMelanieHamilton · 21/02/2020 20:19

What do you get out of the couples therapy, exactly? It just sounds like another route for him to abuse you. I’d knock it on the head completely, go NC with him for a while whilst you get your head straight and build yourself up.

Letstalkabout6 · 21/02/2020 20:59

@MrsMelanieHamilton if you rtfp you'll see she has and only goes to therapy for herself.

Filly2011 · 21/02/2020 22:10

I’ve decided the best course is - I am NEVER speaking to dh again.

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Ellie56 · 21/02/2020 22:29

Good Filly life is too short to waste talking to an arsehole. Get yourself a shit hot lawyer and communicate through them.

As PPs have said act as though you don't care.Tell yourself you don't care. Believe you don't care. One day it will be true.

TheresGotToBeMoreToLife · 21/02/2020 23:05

Oh goodness me! Get out of that relationship. He is sapping your soul!