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How can I get my BF to understand our situation just isn't working for me anymore? LONG!

227 replies

DarkRose · 06/02/2020 13:19

Hi everyone, I am new here but could really do with some advice on my current relationship as I'm at the end of my tether. This may be long so I apologise now.
I am a 31-year-old female, left home at 16, was married for 14 years and divorced in 2018, on good terms with my ex for my families sake, I have children, successful self-employed business, my own home, dog, cats and various other animals. ( My animal's references will make sense shortly).
I have been with my new man (44) for almost 2 years but we have been friends for roughly 5 years. He lives about 35 minutes drive from me, also self-employed. He is a lovely, kind, gentle, protective man, we have so much in common, he gets on with my children brilliantly. I love him. I am just tired of our situation. I've brought it up with him a thousand times I'm just starting to sound like a nag and he just can't see its a problem.
He still lives at home with his mum and 46-year-old brother. His brother is just always there. I feel like I'm competing for my boyfriend's attention constantly. He only sees me on the nights I don't have my children unless I really arrange it in advance and he will not drive to my house. He hasn't driven here once in the whole 2 years we've been together. If I want him to come down I have to pick him up and bring him here. He drives to various places during the week. Just not to mine and always has excuses.
He does so much with his brother that I am starting to resent his brother. If I bring up his brother's constant presence he always makes me feel bad saying my brother likes you and considers you a friend etc..
Our current week looks like this:
Monday - I have my children so stay at home, He goes out with his brother.
Tuesday - I have my children so stay at home, He goes to martial arts with his brother.
Wednesday - My ex has the kids, I drive to his once he's been out into town with his brother - his brother wants to get into town by 4 pm each Wednesday, I do all the school runs as my ex works until 5 so I can't ever join them as the shops will be shut by the time I reach them. So I seem him from 7 pm onwards. We have a few hours to ourself in his room then join his brother to watch something. I leave around 1 am.
Thursday - I have my children so stay at home, He does martial arts with his brother in the afternoon then have the evening watching things with his brother.
Friday - I have my children so stay home, He "needs to have some time to himself" so usually goes out with his brother or has friends over.
Saturday - I meet him and his brother at 3 pm and we go off and do something together. occasionally something just the pair of us. I pop back to mine later afternoon to deal with my animals. In the evening we sit down with his brother and mum for tea (cooked by his mum) then his brother goes out with their mum to "give us an empty house" from 9 pm to 1 am. When he comes home we watch something with his brother until we go to bed.
Sunday - We wake and have Sunday lunch with his mum and brother, cooked for by his mum. I go home as I have to look after my animals as he and his brother do martial arts and go to the cinema after. I sometimes join them in the cinema but what we go to watch isn't open for discussion, some films I don't want to see, those times I don't go I always get made to feel bad for not joining him at the cinema. When I say I'd love it if just the two of us went sometimes, like on a date, he claims his brother joins him and he cannot just tell him he isn't welcome.

I am made to feel guilty if I don't accept his hospitality when he invites me for tea on a Wednesday as well. But they eat at 6, by the time I've packed my children off, sorted my animals etc.. I cannot get to him on time. But apparently I am coming across rude when I don't join them and turn down hot food. He says I should accept his hospitality but he doesn't cook the meals, his 70-year-old mother does, he doesn't even know how to cook. So I feel uncomfortable doing it too often.

I argue with him constantly, just because I have my children It doesn't make me off-limits, they are young, they are all in bed by 8.30 pm, all good sleepers, sleeping through until 7 am. If they are such an issue why did he bother dating someone with children? Why can't he come down here once in a while once they are asleep? Or even when they aren't here, why do I always have to be the one that goes to his? He fobs me off with that this is only temporary and I need to be patient. Nothing has changed in 2 years! He says I should be grateful that his family like me and accepted me into the family so well, anyone else would love to spend time with a close-knit family. He understands that I'm not used to it as I left home so young but in other culters, his set up is considered normal and he considers himself lucky. He thought I liked that he was close to his family - Yes I do, but not so close that we have no breathing space. He claims if he came down during the week I would end up never going to his house and not seeing his family anymore and that would hurt them, and he can't ignore them or just not spend any time with them. I'm not asking that.

When I say his brother is too much, that I'm starting to resent him as he is always there and I want some time with my boyfriend to myself. He says as I mentioned above, makes me feel so guilty say his brother likes me and sees me as a good friend. I should be lucky to have a good friend he can completely vouch for.

When we are in his room, or downstairs with his brother, I can't quietly show my boyfriend something on my phone or talk to him quietly, his brother asks to see what we are looking at and what we are talking about every time. He will continue to ask until we answer him or tell him its private. Privacy isn't something he has much concept off as he doesn't have a FB so he always longs on to my boyfriend's computer and on to his FB so sometimes I don't know who I'm messaging. He takes my boyfriends car without asking most nights we are together so if I do manage to talk my boyfriend into being the one who drives. We can't as he has no car.

Every time I mention how much his brother is becoming an issue. He gets quite upset and says he can't go through this again. It turns out all his other relationships have ended just around the 2-year mark because of his brother. When I ask why he hasn't learnt from this, he says that it's his brother. He's lucky to have a brother like him.

I tell him I worry about a future with him, I would love to get married again but don't see how that is possible when he is that close to his brother and not willing to spend any time at mine or extra time with me. He says it will get better and I need to be patient. To prove how committed he is to me and our future we have recently bought a pet together, only the animal is at my house and he's only seen him once on the day we bought him.

I honestly thought a man who does live at home would jump at the chance to spend some alone time in an empty house each week. But now I'm just questioning what the hell is wrong with me.

Does anyone have any advice? I just don't know how much longer I can be a part-time girlfriend and he doesn't see that there's a problem. If not I'm just grateful for the opportunity to rant.

OP posts:
timeisnotaline · 07/02/2020 22:41

Op, I wonder if I’m one of the people you think are being nasty by saying how little he prioritises you. I don’t mean to be nasty, I just really want you to recognise this and dump him so you can find someone loving and caring and thoughtful.

Jux · 07/02/2020 23:47

Put the Argos thing outside the front door so you don't have to wait in or face him. Tell him it's there, that'll get him over to yours in no time.I

Sorry he's such an arse.

Weenurse · 08/02/2020 01:06

Has he shown up?

AgentJohnson · 08/02/2020 06:37

He was always this guy but you’ve been lulled into a false sense of security by the ‘I’ve known him for years’ thought.

As advised, tell him to get his shit by x o’clock or you will sell it and refund him ((if he’s already paid). Then you must block him, he isn’t a friend and there’s no way you can return to the time you didn’t know this side to him.

bigchris · 08/02/2020 06:52

Good luck Flowers stay strong xx

conduitoffortune · 08/02/2020 07:20

I can't believe that this massive loser has ever had a girlfriend. Let alone one with her own home and successful business.

movingdilemma1234 · 08/02/2020 07:57

Op you wrote earlier I just need him to not be so attached to his family.
It sounds to me as if he's enmeshed rather than attached and, to all extents and purposes he's in a relationship with his brother. His Mum is there solely to meet the other needs of both men, to provide food and a roof over their heads. This sounds seriously unhealthy but surprisingly there are many families who live in this way. The men were clearly not given the tools in adolescence to move into independence.
I think you will be much happier now that you have made the first steps towards getting out of this strange set up

Apolloanddaphne · 08/02/2020 07:59

I'm glad you have seen him for what he is and have now ditched him.

CinnnemonBeauty · 08/02/2020 08:07

Hi OP I’m sorry but I read only half the thread and felt so incensed. I’ve been reading into something about being a priority not an option (as I’m finding amongst a couple of groups of friends I am just that they organise stuff and don’t invite me I ask and then I get to join - whereas yesterday took the biscuit where I asked to join got told there was space then got told there wasn’t - so I just thought fuck this I am no longer an option I am a priority)!! Now in a more complex and emotionally abusive way you will always be an option never ever a priority whereas to you he is your priority.

I read you are leaving him so please don’t go back. I certainly won’t be asking to join anything and will not be anyone’s option!

Samhradh · 08/02/2020 08:12

Please dump him fully, OP. You deserve more.

What is consuming me is how a man like this — a fortysomething teenager who has never grown up and probably takes baths with his glued-to-his-side brother, baths run by his elderly mother, who probably comes in with warm towels — can be labouring under the delusion that he’s a ‘catch’?

Epona1 · 08/02/2020 10:40

So did he bother turning up to collect his item?

othervoicesotherrooms · 08/02/2020 13:30

Did he collect his item?
He sounds really weird OP.

Nanny0gg · 08/02/2020 15:59

When you knew him before your 'relationship', was his brother always there then?

The two of you having to go up to his room for time on your own makes you sound about 14 - I'm glad you've realised this isn't normal and won't change.

Has he collected his parcel yet?

holidayhelpp · 09/02/2020 15:36

Hope you’re ok op

cheesydoesit · 09/02/2020 16:56

Sorry, only on page 3 so the thread might have moved on loads and (hopefully) you have already ditched him but, aren't you embarrassed by this? Do your friends know about this set up?

cheesydoesit · 09/02/2020 16:57

Ok, it has moved on! Going to catch up and hope all is well.

sonjadog · 09/02/2020 19:32

He does think he is a special prize, doesn't he? I think the past poster who said he has been ruined by being told he is mummy's special boy was right.

DarklyDreamingDexter · 09/02/2020 21:14

Well done, you’ve done the right thing dumping him - he sounds like an immature twat!

Jiggles101 · 10/02/2020 10:37

Well done for dumping him, he sound like a selfish wanker

Now raise your bar much higher for the next one!

Dozer · 10/02/2020 14:12

OP hasn’t confirmed that she’s dumped him...

FraglesRock · 10/02/2020 15:35

It's been too long since op has been back. I think they're back together

BeenThereDone · 10/02/2020 16:30

It's almost incestuous... Surprised he's not sharing the bed with you...

Jojo2wyatr · 18/02/2020 20:58

Oh,Hun. I am so sorry that this situation you are in with your boyfriend has turned out so poorly. You sound like a very put-together woman who has so much to offer the right person... To think you left home at around 15 and are raising 3 DC and it sounds as if you get on well with their dad. On top of this you've been able to support yourself, have your own car and are providing a lovely home for your DC. Well done you!
Did you ever talk this over with your mum? I can imagine she is heartbroken for you about the whole situation...it is so distressing to see your daughter giving her all to someone who doesn't reciprocate. I know from experience.😢 I pray you are on your way to smoother times and one day find someone who idolised you...you deserve nothing less. Please don't sell yourself short and settle SmileFlowers

Jojo2wyatr · 19/02/2020 00:56

Hi Sweetheart @DarkRose
I was working out in my garden and I was praying for you and your situation..I got some real clarity about it so I thought I'd share it.(don't know if anyone has mentioned this before but this answer came in loud and clear) You and your boyfriend just aren't right for each other because you have both clearly chosen different paths in life and they do not mesh at all...He seems to have chosen to not have children or a family of his own and really doesn't seem to be interested in having one or being around them now.This absolutely does not make him a bad person..he's just not the right one for you because you do have children .At 15 years old you decided that you did want to have children so when you fell pregnant you and you xDH decided to start your own family by getting
married... you could have made different choices, but you chose this path and have brought three DC into the world...BFs path in life and your path are totally parallel to each other.. they can never touch...As your children grow up, you will want to be apart of the amazing things they are accomplishing, but BF, probably will not be interested in being beside you for these...then come the fabulous grandchildren...oh my, if you think DC are wondeful just wait until you wrap your arms around a precious grandchild and breathe in their little baby essence!...There again, BF probably doesn't want grandchildren since he doesn't want children.
It doesn't matter what he is doing or how he is doing it, no one can fault him because he has every right to choose how he wants to live...you, on the other hand cannot possibly live that life with him unless you choose to give up your entire family and be with him...I don't think in a million years you could or would do that because you seem close with your mom, etc. and of course you have your DC....
That's may be why you don't feel that you want to hurt his feelings or be hateful toward him.You have made your choice and he has made his and neither of them are wrong...they just won't fit together.
Your strength and determination amaze me and I am blown away by what a deep soul you have and how strong you are. You are a very rare person.Your parents must be very proud of youSmileFlowers

Jojo2wyatr · 19/02/2020 01:01

@DarkRose
Forgot one thing
He will probably be a perfect match for someone who doesn't have ANY family and his will envelope her with open arms and they will live happily ever after...And I know you will, also.