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How can I get my BF to understand our situation just isn't working for me anymore? LONG!

227 replies

DarkRose · 06/02/2020 13:19

Hi everyone, I am new here but could really do with some advice on my current relationship as I'm at the end of my tether. This may be long so I apologise now.
I am a 31-year-old female, left home at 16, was married for 14 years and divorced in 2018, on good terms with my ex for my families sake, I have children, successful self-employed business, my own home, dog, cats and various other animals. ( My animal's references will make sense shortly).
I have been with my new man (44) for almost 2 years but we have been friends for roughly 5 years. He lives about 35 minutes drive from me, also self-employed. He is a lovely, kind, gentle, protective man, we have so much in common, he gets on with my children brilliantly. I love him. I am just tired of our situation. I've brought it up with him a thousand times I'm just starting to sound like a nag and he just can't see its a problem.
He still lives at home with his mum and 46-year-old brother. His brother is just always there. I feel like I'm competing for my boyfriend's attention constantly. He only sees me on the nights I don't have my children unless I really arrange it in advance and he will not drive to my house. He hasn't driven here once in the whole 2 years we've been together. If I want him to come down I have to pick him up and bring him here. He drives to various places during the week. Just not to mine and always has excuses.
He does so much with his brother that I am starting to resent his brother. If I bring up his brother's constant presence he always makes me feel bad saying my brother likes you and considers you a friend etc..
Our current week looks like this:
Monday - I have my children so stay at home, He goes out with his brother.
Tuesday - I have my children so stay at home, He goes to martial arts with his brother.
Wednesday - My ex has the kids, I drive to his once he's been out into town with his brother - his brother wants to get into town by 4 pm each Wednesday, I do all the school runs as my ex works until 5 so I can't ever join them as the shops will be shut by the time I reach them. So I seem him from 7 pm onwards. We have a few hours to ourself in his room then join his brother to watch something. I leave around 1 am.
Thursday - I have my children so stay at home, He does martial arts with his brother in the afternoon then have the evening watching things with his brother.
Friday - I have my children so stay home, He "needs to have some time to himself" so usually goes out with his brother or has friends over.
Saturday - I meet him and his brother at 3 pm and we go off and do something together. occasionally something just the pair of us. I pop back to mine later afternoon to deal with my animals. In the evening we sit down with his brother and mum for tea (cooked by his mum) then his brother goes out with their mum to "give us an empty house" from 9 pm to 1 am. When he comes home we watch something with his brother until we go to bed.
Sunday - We wake and have Sunday lunch with his mum and brother, cooked for by his mum. I go home as I have to look after my animals as he and his brother do martial arts and go to the cinema after. I sometimes join them in the cinema but what we go to watch isn't open for discussion, some films I don't want to see, those times I don't go I always get made to feel bad for not joining him at the cinema. When I say I'd love it if just the two of us went sometimes, like on a date, he claims his brother joins him and he cannot just tell him he isn't welcome.

I am made to feel guilty if I don't accept his hospitality when he invites me for tea on a Wednesday as well. But they eat at 6, by the time I've packed my children off, sorted my animals etc.. I cannot get to him on time. But apparently I am coming across rude when I don't join them and turn down hot food. He says I should accept his hospitality but he doesn't cook the meals, his 70-year-old mother does, he doesn't even know how to cook. So I feel uncomfortable doing it too often.

I argue with him constantly, just because I have my children It doesn't make me off-limits, they are young, they are all in bed by 8.30 pm, all good sleepers, sleeping through until 7 am. If they are such an issue why did he bother dating someone with children? Why can't he come down here once in a while once they are asleep? Or even when they aren't here, why do I always have to be the one that goes to his? He fobs me off with that this is only temporary and I need to be patient. Nothing has changed in 2 years! He says I should be grateful that his family like me and accepted me into the family so well, anyone else would love to spend time with a close-knit family. He understands that I'm not used to it as I left home so young but in other culters, his set up is considered normal and he considers himself lucky. He thought I liked that he was close to his family - Yes I do, but not so close that we have no breathing space. He claims if he came down during the week I would end up never going to his house and not seeing his family anymore and that would hurt them, and he can't ignore them or just not spend any time with them. I'm not asking that.

When I say his brother is too much, that I'm starting to resent him as he is always there and I want some time with my boyfriend to myself. He says as I mentioned above, makes me feel so guilty say his brother likes me and sees me as a good friend. I should be lucky to have a good friend he can completely vouch for.

When we are in his room, or downstairs with his brother, I can't quietly show my boyfriend something on my phone or talk to him quietly, his brother asks to see what we are looking at and what we are talking about every time. He will continue to ask until we answer him or tell him its private. Privacy isn't something he has much concept off as he doesn't have a FB so he always longs on to my boyfriend's computer and on to his FB so sometimes I don't know who I'm messaging. He takes my boyfriends car without asking most nights we are together so if I do manage to talk my boyfriend into being the one who drives. We can't as he has no car.

Every time I mention how much his brother is becoming an issue. He gets quite upset and says he can't go through this again. It turns out all his other relationships have ended just around the 2-year mark because of his brother. When I ask why he hasn't learnt from this, he says that it's his brother. He's lucky to have a brother like him.

I tell him I worry about a future with him, I would love to get married again but don't see how that is possible when he is that close to his brother and not willing to spend any time at mine or extra time with me. He says it will get better and I need to be patient. To prove how committed he is to me and our future we have recently bought a pet together, only the animal is at my house and he's only seen him once on the day we bought him.

I honestly thought a man who does live at home would jump at the chance to spend some alone time in an empty house each week. But now I'm just questioning what the hell is wrong with me.

Does anyone have any advice? I just don't know how much longer I can be a part-time girlfriend and he doesn't see that there's a problem. If not I'm just grateful for the opportunity to rant.

OP posts:
FuzzyAtmosphere · 07/02/2020 11:44

I don’t think he sounds as if he has any intention of changing his living setup and, you come across as enabling this by always going to him and accepting his brother coming along to pretty much everything.

I think you might benefit from some time out of a relationship. According to your dates you have been in a relationship since you were 15. If this had been me, I would have missed out on fundamental years of being single and learning about relationships. By the time I was your current age, I would have known straightaway your boyfriend’s setup and expectations was odd and not going to work for me long term - but I needed those years when I was younger to be able to get to that stage.

Squirrelpeanutbutter · 07/02/2020 11:50

Stay strong, you’re doing the right thing. I can’t believe he wants you to deliver his parcel. What an entitled twat. Wine

ravenmum · 07/02/2020 11:53

“I thought you would want to see me” is part of his guilt tactic: if she doesn't bring him the item then it supposedly shows she isn't loving enough.

(I am so familiar with his tactic!)

user1471449295 · 07/02/2020 12:00

This sounds awful, no way could I put up with this relationship. I say leave. Does his brother has SN?

mummmy2017 · 07/02/2020 12:06

Well done.
He really thinks he is something special.

FraglesRock · 07/02/2020 12:09

Well done. It's very telling about how you are to do all the running around after him. I wonder how he explains the fact that he can't drive to you.

I'd take him item back to Argos and send him the money back.

He will fight for you, in his head he's found the perfect person to slot into his life with no effort from him.

ChuckleBuckles · 07/02/2020 12:09

He says I should be grateful that his family like me and accepted me into the family so well

I think this comment above all others is very telling, it implies that you are "less than" and should be glad to have any crumbs from them. I wonder does he think that you as a single mum should be grateful that they accept you. I wonder how he has treated your DC, if he is kind to them or are they not on his radar at all. I think that you are well rid of him.

billy1966 · 07/02/2020 12:21

Amazed anyone would settle for so little.

Look after yourself OP.
You deserve more.💐

minmooch · 07/02/2020 13:20

I told him if he wants his thing he can drive down and get it. I woke up to 18 messages from him and 2 missed calls. Will see if he makes the effort to come down or not. It depends on how badly he wants his Argos item.

Don't let him talk you round. He's had 18 months to prove who he is. Don't believe the lies that are about to come out of his mouth.

You deserve so much more than this man-child.

Techway · 07/02/2020 13:48

Well done, 2 years is very typical of the timeframe for when the shine of the relationship wear off and reality kicks in. Sensible people bail at this point and you have been very wise.

TwoHeadedYellowBelliedHoleDig · 07/02/2020 13:55

If he does manage to drive over to collect his Argos item, it's not going to make everything better, is it. All you'll know is that he'll drive over for his PS4 controller - but not you, not for you in 18 months.

Chin up. Enjoy your friend and your wine tonight and thank your stars you are rid of Teenboy.

fedup21 · 07/02/2020 14:00

Does he still owe you money for the Argos purchase??

CheddarGorgeous · 07/02/2020 14:21

Well done OP. Look after yourself.

YasssKween · 07/02/2020 14:22

I told him if he wants his thing he can drive down and get it. I woke up to 18 messages from him and 2 missed calls. Will see if he makes the effort to come down or not. It depends on how badly he wants his Argos item.

Do you mean that if he does "make the effort" it might change your mind?!

I'm sorry if you felt like this was a pile on, I think people just feel protective of you because you've been so taken advantage of.

Are you saying if he comes over then you might reconsider breaking up with him?

Thanks
HuskyloverI · 07/02/2020 14:24

I presume the reason that he can't drive, is because his HUGE cock sometimes slips under the pedals?

That's the only thing that could make any sense of this farce.

Drum2018 · 07/02/2020 14:32

For the love of God bin him and his brother. Find your self respect, shove his Argos item up his arrogant arse and close the door on this sham of a relationship.

LannieDuck · 07/02/2020 14:49

The fact he won't just drive over at get it, but pushes and pushes for you to deliver it, speaks volumes.

YasssKween · 07/02/2020 14:51

Tbh I think it's worse if he drives over to get his Argos item because based on his previous behaviour it means that the Argos item is worth it when you haven't been!

Dozer · 07/02/2020 14:52

Yeah, that would say it all. Willing to travel for an Argos item but not to see OP.

SandyY2K · 07/02/2020 15:14

Excellent update. Onwards and upwards.

Well done for seeing it for what it is.

Jux · 07/02/2020 15:14

Does he actually know the way from his to yours?!

If not, there are maps and satnav, so you don't need to tell him.

Modestandatinybitsexy · 07/02/2020 16:26

Bit late to this party - well done for dumping him OP, you deserve better!

Just speaks volumes that his family are everything to him but you have children he's not involved with, he's not involved in your family in any way, he doesn't spend any one on one time with you, outside of the bedroom, and you're just expected to slot into his life. Last night obviously highlighted that and you're well rid Star

CousinKrispy · 07/02/2020 16:43

He sounds awful and you sound like a lovely person, OP, I would love to hang out with you and your pets.

You deserve better and I'm glad you'll be moving on from him. Try not to feel too bad about yourself for having wasted time on him--you were giving the benefit of the doubt to someone you were friends with already. He's the one who was being selfish.

Maybe take some time to think about what kind of behavior you want (and deserve!) from a partner so in case you have the bad luck to bump into another person like this (who seems nice at first, but turns out to be a user) you might be able to avoid them more quickly!

monkeymonkey2010 · 07/02/2020 17:02

didn't take long for his mask to slip did it?
the second you say 'no' and stand up to his manipulative ways he shows you his true colours.......bland and one tone.

i think you do need to work on your boundaries though.
Years ago i was in a sort of similar position to you, where i only saw my 'guy' if i did all the travelling, and it would be a few snatched hours here and there.
There was no fun in being made to feel like i was 'buying' a man's time and 'attention'.

you want a guy who makes your life feel better and adds something good to it by being there....not someone who drains your energy and sucks all the joy out of doing anything.

Dozer · 07/02/2020 18:34

OP hasn’t fully dumped him, yet, I don’t think.

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