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SIL and her Dog hijack Christmas

262 replies

Ventatron · 17/12/2019 09:20

Okay this is partly a vent, but also a 'what the hell do I do next'? question. Xmas Confused

My SIL is single, and childless and doesn't have any close friends. Last year she decided to buy a retriever puppy which as you can imagine, means the world to her. She brought it with her to stay over last Christmas. It was about 6 months old when it came and understandably, very puppy like, but my SIL imposed all these rules on us, in our own house about what we could and couldn't do - because of the puppy. We had to talk quietly, kids mustn't run, nobody was allowed to eat chocolate in case the dog got it, toys must be off the floor, we weren't allowed to sit on the floor because we must remain 'above the dog - all this at Christmas. She also wanted to sleep in the living room on the sofa with the dog because the dog doesn't 'do' stairs and when the kids came in a 6am to open presents she put the blanket over her head and asked when we would be finished.
Now the dog is twice the size and if you sit down on the couch, he sticks his nose in your face, and as she doesn't put him in his bed or wherever while we eat dinner he breathes on you while you're eating. He's always under foot, always restless and bored - poor thing - and he has a very loud and unpredictable bark. So this year, I said, if the dog comes to Christmas, it has to stay in the hall, knowing the would mean she would not stay the night - and I think that's best too - the dog doesn't want to be here and we don't want him here. The feeling is mutual. It's only her who wants to bring him. But this has unleashed a huge problem. We've had calls from relatives, 'why isn't SIL allowed to come to Christmas?' We confirm she is, but the dog has to stay in the hall. We say we're going dog free due to hair and mess etc (the easy answer) .… 'but your neighbour was allowed in with his dog!' And he was and the reason is simple, when his (smaller) dog comes over, he has a fuss and then sleeps in the corner. He's no trouble.

So yes, the issue is two fold, it's about being made uncomfortable by the dog AND about her ordering us around in our own home. The kids are also not huge fans of the dog as they are both under four and have cried at his barking.

But SIL has made such a big deal out of this that my husband wants me to just 'get over it' but he's not the one hostessing and cooking and 'doing' Christmas.

So the idea of her not coming for Christmas was - well - okay with me. But now she says, she is coming to Christmas, without he dog, and that she won't speak to me while she's here. 'Okay, then I won't make her any Christmas dinner'. was my reply but my husband's shoulders went up to his ears. He is so stressed now, I don't want to make it worst. Any advice?

OP posts:
ToniHargis · 18/12/2019 17:58

Let her come and let her not speak to you. Consider it a blessing and don't make any attempt to make nice with her, because that's just enabling her childishness. Be civil and act as if nothing's wrong. When she sees that she can't get a reaction and also doesn't get her way, she;ll stop trying all this stuff. You've already made her cave with your dog decision.

Celestine70 · 18/12/2019 18:04

My dog isn't even allowed in the room when I am eating. So it would be a no from me.

Dixiegirl77 · 18/12/2019 18:05

We had the opposite,bil told us to leave our then puppy out in the garden all day (our house) as he doesnt really like dogs and didn't want the dog around his young dd's,told him he can sit out in the garden all day in the cold or go home,our dog doesnt bark,happy to go sleep in a corner or would take himself upstairs out the way,and would snuggle up to our boys.
If he had been in your face kind then yes,I would have put him upstairs out the way,my nieces love the dog,just wasnt sure at first as they never had and still haven't,ever had a pet,but with full supervision and told how to stroke the dog and how to get him to sit etc,they loved it!

ToftyAC · 18/12/2019 18:05

No, no and thrice no! Nobody gets to be rude or disrespectful to the host in their own home. About time SIL grew up. And as for your DH? He’s being a knob head. Do update us though OP 😊

HollowTalk · 18/12/2019 18:10

"No one is coming to my house to ignore me on Christmas Day, while I put in all time work and money to feed them".

I agree with this but would change it to, "Only an idiot would think they were going to come to my house to ignore me on Christmas Day, while I put in all the time, work and money to feed them."

justonecottonpickingminute · 18/12/2019 18:15

She sounds like a nightmare, but does your obvious dripping disdain for that fact she is single and does not have children come across in the way you deal with her? If so the way she is with the dog might be a passive-aggressive message?

Frokni · 18/12/2019 18:17

Tell sister dog can come and not her?
Invite them both and feed the dog a crackin dinner but not SIL?
Tell her to get over it and make DH sort it out?
All my suggestions are good
Xmas Smile

FrenchBoule · 18/12/2019 18:20

OP, I wouldn’t have such rude guest in the house.
Speaking from experience here, FIL has come to our PFB 1st birthday and blanked me out.
I left the room, DH has apologised for his DF behaviour after he left.
2 weeks later the hell broke loose with DH as I refused to go to his DF.

It took my DH a while to see his father for what he is but I refused to budge.

Stand up for yourself and tell your spineless “D”H to brow a backbone and stop pandering to his sister, either she comes and treats you with respect in your own house or she shouldn’t bother to come. If he doesn’t like it then he’s more than welcome to join her and her dog for Christmas

Blitzen2 · 18/12/2019 18:22

I’m all for having dogs but this is ridiculous. I adore my collie but under no circumstances would she be joining us at xmas at someone else’s house where there is chocolate and young kids! It’s not fair on us or the dog.

Your SIL is obviously a spoiled brat.

readitandwept · 18/12/2019 18:28

@justonecottonpickingminute

Where are you picking up on this obvious dripping disdain??

Cherrysoup · 18/12/2019 18:30

She said she’d put the boys in the crate? Fml, you have a dh problem. Tell her she’s not bringing the bloody dog, end of. No way should her dog be dictating your Christmas, again!

bmbonanza · 18/12/2019 18:31

If she wants to come she has to stick to your rules - if she chooses not to then fine she can go somewhere else.
Personally I'd have the dog and put SIL in the hall.

Dadtwoone · 18/12/2019 18:33

Invite/suggest to your husband he is welcome to spend Xmas with his sister, at his sisters, unless he backs you up that is.

alistairric2 · 18/12/2019 18:39

I love dogs but no way would I put up with your SiL. My house my rules. As to letting the neighbour's dog in, I'd point out that one is well trained and your SiL's dog obviously isn't.

Your husband needs a kick up the arse. Those who quote "Blood is thicker than water" should learn the next line "But none as thick as the bonds of friendship". If your husband is more of a friend to his sister than to you, tell him to sort Christmas himself.

browneyes77 · 18/12/2019 18:40

She won’t speak to you whilst she’s there?

Is she 12?

QueenoftheBiscuitTin · 18/12/2019 18:44

Why did you and DH pander to her crap last year?
If she's going to be rude and dictate, she can piss off somewhere else.

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 18/12/2019 18:45

Is SIL generally tiptoed around? I'm getting the impression that isn't the only area where she stamps her foot and everyone else rushed to calm her down/pander to her.

There is an obvious DH problem here, if he is willing to allow anyone to come to your house who has told him in advance that she will refuse to speak to you.

nuxe1984 · 18/12/2019 18:47

This is the same as welbehaved children welcomed but misbehaving children are not!

allthesharks · 18/12/2019 18:47

After SIL saying that she won't speak to you when she's there, I'd withdraw her invitation but tell her that the dog can still come. I think that the dog without her ridiculous rules for everyone to pander to it would be absolutely fine.

Drabarni · 18/12/2019 18:52

No way would that have happened to my dc, why did you let her do it.
Poor kids, tell her to shuff off this year.

WhoCaresWins01 · 18/12/2019 18:56

Hell would freeze over before I would have someone in my home expecting to be treated as a guest while refusing to speak to me.
Your husband should not be condoning his sisters behavior!

Ellie56 · 18/12/2019 18:59

Just think this time next week it will nearly all be over...

BlueJava · 18/12/2019 19:05

I absolutely adore dogs - especially retrievers, but that sort of behaviour would be too much for me. I wouldn't like a dog under my feet whilst cooking, nor breathing over my food at the table. The idea that the kids can't be on the floor, can't eat chocolate etc is ridiculous. The fact that she said she'd come but not speak to you is frankly outrageous. I'd say she can come (sans dog) if she apologies. If not she's not coming.

Ginfordinner · 18/12/2019 19:05

And why cant the dog stay home? Where does it go when she is at work? It doesn't know it is Xmas!

I was going to ask this. Why can't she leave the dog at home and come for a few hours.

Quite frankly I would have said no to a dog in the house in the first place, but I know that DH would have said the same. I can be assertive but not rude. OP your husband needs to man up and back you up as well.

Lou12124 · 18/12/2019 19:06

I'd put your sister and the dog out for a long walk.. 1 so she stops moaning and ordering you about in your own house and 2 the dog will be shattered!

Or just say the dog can come but we have our own rules this year. Understand the dog is part of the family but it's a dog! They need to follow your orders not other way round!