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SIL and her Dog hijack Christmas

262 replies

Ventatron · 17/12/2019 09:20

Okay this is partly a vent, but also a 'what the hell do I do next'? question. Xmas Confused

My SIL is single, and childless and doesn't have any close friends. Last year she decided to buy a retriever puppy which as you can imagine, means the world to her. She brought it with her to stay over last Christmas. It was about 6 months old when it came and understandably, very puppy like, but my SIL imposed all these rules on us, in our own house about what we could and couldn't do - because of the puppy. We had to talk quietly, kids mustn't run, nobody was allowed to eat chocolate in case the dog got it, toys must be off the floor, we weren't allowed to sit on the floor because we must remain 'above the dog - all this at Christmas. She also wanted to sleep in the living room on the sofa with the dog because the dog doesn't 'do' stairs and when the kids came in a 6am to open presents she put the blanket over her head and asked when we would be finished.
Now the dog is twice the size and if you sit down on the couch, he sticks his nose in your face, and as she doesn't put him in his bed or wherever while we eat dinner he breathes on you while you're eating. He's always under foot, always restless and bored - poor thing - and he has a very loud and unpredictable bark. So this year, I said, if the dog comes to Christmas, it has to stay in the hall, knowing the would mean she would not stay the night - and I think that's best too - the dog doesn't want to be here and we don't want him here. The feeling is mutual. It's only her who wants to bring him. But this has unleashed a huge problem. We've had calls from relatives, 'why isn't SIL allowed to come to Christmas?' We confirm she is, but the dog has to stay in the hall. We say we're going dog free due to hair and mess etc (the easy answer) .… 'but your neighbour was allowed in with his dog!' And he was and the reason is simple, when his (smaller) dog comes over, he has a fuss and then sleeps in the corner. He's no trouble.

So yes, the issue is two fold, it's about being made uncomfortable by the dog AND about her ordering us around in our own home. The kids are also not huge fans of the dog as they are both under four and have cried at his barking.

But SIL has made such a big deal out of this that my husband wants me to just 'get over it' but he's not the one hostessing and cooking and 'doing' Christmas.

So the idea of her not coming for Christmas was - well - okay with me. But now she says, she is coming to Christmas, without he dog, and that she won't speak to me while she's here. 'Okay, then I won't make her any Christmas dinner'. was my reply but my husband's shoulders went up to his ears. He is so stressed now, I don't want to make it worst. Any advice?

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wellthatwasthat · 17/12/2019 18:32

I don't say this all that often, but tell her if she's going to be like that she can fuck off!

strawberry2017 · 17/12/2019 19:22

@WorldsOnFire 100% this! Send her this and stop letting her dictate your Xmas. If DH doesn't like it, tell him to go to his sisters for xmas😂

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/12/2019 19:36

As much as I also like @WorldsOnFire’s suggestion, this isn’t about the dog rules, is it?

It’s about your SIL behaving like a spoilt brat and everyone else letting her get away with it. Including your wet DH. There is no way on earth that my DH would have stood for one of his siblings saying they would come to the house but not speak to me. He would have told them to shove it. And that they weren’t welcome in the house again till they apologised for badmouthing me to the rest of the family. You need to have a stern word wirh him and tell them it’s just not happening and ask if he wants to tell her (and tell her straight) or should you.

My guess is that everyone else in the family has danced to her sulky tune all her life, hence the obstreperous adult that she’s become. So you both need to be very firm with the rest of the family and tell them straight too about why she is uninvited. I certainly wouldn’t be keeping it to myself. They need to know how ridiculous she is being.

Seriously, if no-one pulls her up on her behaviour now, imagine the bridezilla she will be, or the type of mother, and what a spoilt brat her kid will be! If you think this is winding you up, it will only get so much worse.

That’s the adult thing I’d do anyway. I’d be tempted to have fun with it, have her over and then be very jolly and film her sulking and giving you the silent treatment. Then send it to the rest of the family (and the world.)

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/12/2019 19:45

Anyone else seeing this ad? Made me howl. Da-DUM!!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 17/12/2019 19:46

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SIL and her Dog hijack Christmas
sage46 · 17/12/2019 19:50

Do you think your sil is jealous that you have children and she doesn't? Maybe she sees her dog as her child? The comment about putting your boys in the dog crate instead of the dog speaks volumes, as she is conflating her dog with your children

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 17/12/2019 19:50

I have a very badly behaved rescue dog. IF I were to take her to anyone's house I would 100% respect their rules. If rude hound had to spend the meal shut away in the kitchen then so be it (she is the queen of begging!) FFS dogs do not Trump humans

PlumsGalore · 17/12/2019 20:27

The dog stays home as does she. I was more than happy for MIL to come for Christmas, I like her, but the only rule was her dog stays home. She lives five minutes away and doesn’t drink and can drive so could pop there and back to check if needs be.

Her dog sniffs you constantly, is very fussy and chases cats, I have two.

She chose not to come for Christmas, I suggest you impose similar rules.

wherearemymarbles · 17/12/2019 21:52

I think your husband is in need of as much training as that bloody dog.
I’d recommend a sturdy choke chain. In fact get a pair and take the silly sod, along with his twat of a sister for a long walk.

And then tie them up and leave them outside the nearest rescue centre!

fedup21 · 17/12/2019 21:56

SIL can stay at her own house and cook her own dinner.

I think your problem was saying you don’t want the dog to come because of the flooring or because of the hair etc

Just say it was because her having all those rules in your home was a pain in the arse!

WorldsOnFire · 17/12/2019 22:00

I’m glad so many people enjoyed my response. However, I’d actually missed her comment about ‘crating’ your children when I wrote that and taking that into consideration I wouldn’t even bother sending a message.

Personally I would be cutting contact with her- she’s completely mental and (I’m guessing) quite a jealous and resentful person. I think it will get worse with age too, as your family grows and she gets older and lonelier. Xx

Love51 · 17/12/2019 22:07

Explain to your husband that the quotation in full is 'The blood of the battlefield is thicker than the water of the womb'. Birth family are water. People who have been through the trauma of the battlefield of hosting Christmas together are blood.

FrangipaniBlue · 17/12/2019 22:14

I prefer dogs to people and even I wouldn't put up with this shit!

My old dog was welcome for Christmas at PILs because she would happily laze on an old duvet in the hall all day.

Current dog is a total knob so he stays at home, quite rightly.

I love the idea of whacking SIL on the nose with a rolled up newspaper when she starts misbehaving Grin

jessyjo2 · 17/12/2019 22:15

I am a big dog fan but wouldn't expect to bring mine into other people's homes. If I were invited elsewhere for christmas dinner my dog would b left at home, just like it is when I'm out at work. I assume your SL works, where is the dog then?

JoyceJames · 17/12/2019 22:19

I wouldn't need to refuse to cook for her, as she would be uninvited.

73Sunglasslover · 17/12/2019 22:40

Suggest that your SIL hosts instead. Then give her a list of the rules she needs to follow.

bonjourbonjour · 17/12/2019 22:52

I have a dog whom I adore and who means the world to me. I am however very conscious when (and if!) I take him to someone's house and wouldn't dream of making such demands.
She either comes without the dog or she doesn't! My SIL is rude and entitled and has always been and I am always asked to get over it because this is just 'how she is'.
Its just family members ignoring the real issues and not wanting any drama- so lazy.
Be firm and tell her to fuck off.

madcatladyforever · 17/12/2019 22:58

For fucks sake where to people get off making demands in other people's homes. My mother can't bear any animal so I put mine in a cattery when I go there. Why can't she use kennels.

LunasOrchid · 18/12/2019 01:10

Fuck that OP!

If someone refuses to speak to me they wouldn't be stepping into my home! Cheeky bitch!

You also need to sort your DH out. No wonder your SIL is an entitled brat if people like your DH pander to her. He needs to put you first and back you up otherwise he can spend Christmas with his SIL and her bloody dog.

I can't believe your DH actually accepted that SIL would come but wont be speaking to you. My DH would of told her not to speak about his wife like that and find somewhere else to go for food.

Clevererthanyou · 18/12/2019 01:13

Throw a stick for your SIL and tell her ‘There you are love, that’s a grip. Now fetch’.

Booberella9 · 18/12/2019 01:31

Massive DH problem here Grin

It's your home too OP, DH doesn't get the final say. SIL is being a rude and selfish dickhead and as such should be uninvited forthwith. Being related to DH doesn't give anyone free reign to be a twat in your home, it's not 1920!

Sugarpea123 · 18/12/2019 01:59

I'm absolutely besotted by my dogs, and everyone who knows me knows this 😆 But I also respect other people and their house rules! This woman is being utterly childish, selfish, and disrespectful.
Why would she want to cause an unpleasant atmosphere for you and your family at Christmas? If my sil dared say she would come and not speak to me, she would be told in no uncertain terms that either she had a bit more respect, or wasn't welcome with or without dog!

Bogrod · 18/12/2019 02:06

Ffs tell her to fuck off.

FartingInTheFence · 18/12/2019 05:37

@Bogrod - totally agree.

Sister or no sister, I'd tell her to fuck off and take her dog with her and fuck off some more and to shove her rules up her dogs shitty arsehole.

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