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Where can I find a man with exceptional relationship skills?

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changeling82 · 16/12/2019 17:43

I'm 38 and have been online dating now for over 10 years. In that time I've met around 150 men and chatted with countless more but in my experience, the vast majority simply do not have the relationship skills needed to make a satisfying and happy relationship viable. This has also been my experience with the men I've met in real life. They're all curiously lacking in the required skills.

I recently had a look to see if there had been any studies done that had found a massive imbalance in relationship skills between men and women and lo and behold there's a mountain of stuff that more or less confirms that my experiences are typical of most women's. In fact, one study that I read recently more or less said that only a tiny number of women ever find fulfillment and contentment in heterosexual relationships with men and that these women were with men who were described as "exceptional". This is because men are socialised to do vastly less emotion work than women despite high levels of emotion work being the key to making your partner happy in a relationship. In fact, single, childless women almost always come out as happier than their married counterparts even when they admit to being desperately lonely and stigmatised on account of not having a partner. It's all just so depressing as this tallies with my experiences. I'm depressed and lonely but know I would simply be more depressed and more lonely in a typical relationship.

So I need to work out how to go about finding exceptional men in significant quantities (as when you find one you're not necessarily going to be mutually attracted or compatible). I read that only 1 in 10 books on relationship skills are read by men but how could I go about finding these men who are at least interested in relationships and open to learning? And does anyone know anywhere where men with good relationship skills might be likely to hang out online?

I really want to have children and not end up hating the person I have them with. All suggestions would be incredibly welcome!

OP posts:
Alderaan · 18/12/2019 08:06

I also found mine in the pub. So far five and a half years of absolute bliss. I didn't go out looking for a man, and I certainly wasn't seeking for someone with "relationship skills". It all happened very organically.

Wondersense · 18/12/2019 15:05

I'm not sure why a few people have gone in the defensive here or are trying to poke you ss if there's something wring with you. I think there's a fair bit of projection going on there on their part.

The one thing I would say is that you are looking for a degree of emotional intelligence and someone who is no very ego driven. The emotional intelligence thing is fine but be careful with that. Being able to read people, to get into their minds is a valuable skill, but it can obviously be used for good or bad. Just something to watch out for. To make it count he needs to be a caring, good person, otherwise, unless you can outwit him and spot what he's doing, you could land yourself with someone clever but twisted or manipulative.

user1479305498 · 18/12/2019 15:28

Thing is OP , have you get exceptional relationship skills or would guys see you as hard work? I’m being honest, people are people, I’ve met guys with good relationship skills who were still as fallible to human frailties as those with shit relationship
skills

Christmastree43 · 19/12/2019 13:26

I think the research does match up to what myy friends and I have been saying about men for a lot of years. We're in our late twenties and have mostly decided that most men are like this and if you want a relationship you have to compromise, find one whose good qualities outweigh the bad and yes, accept that they aren't as emotionally intelligent as women.

And when we're really struggling with something moan to each other about how shit men are Grin

You probably would see that as settling or compromising too far but I think it's what most people in the world do. I would describe my relationship as very happy but yes of course we have our moments.

I'd also agree with a lot of people on this thread who said that those sort of skills develop within a relationship, they aren't all present to start with. Some great thoughts from a lot of people.

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