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I feel like he has cheated

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Loveontherocks100 · 16/12/2019 10:45

Please bear with me because this is quite long, and probably seems very stupid, but I really really can’t get over my husband lying to me/convince myself he didn’t have at best an emotional or worst a physical affair. Let me preface this by saying he works VERY long hours 8-10pm average so always at work. We have 1 baby and 1 on the way.

3 years ago he told me a (young, pretty) colleague at work (we are now 30 for context), had baked him a cake especially for him as he was moving Desk. He was teasing me that she fancied him. I thought this was quite inappropriate of her/an overreaction to a colleague (he’s her direct boss) so asked him to just shut it down. He said he did.

A year later I found an exchange of emails BY ACCIDENT (which I posted about at the time) where she asked if he was coming for drinks and he effectively said he was very sad he couldn’t because I was pregnant. Poor him. She replied “no risk no fun” and there was a great deal of winky emojis and all fairly inappropriate. Given the cake incident I was displeased and said I wanted him to stop indulging in flirting with a colleague he had said fancied him. A few months later he said she left the team for another one.

9 months later I basically find out (not from him) that she has been working for him all along. They sit near each other. He has repeatedly lied to me about it. He has been going for drinks with her and (supposedly) other colleagues. Going to nightclubs with her (and other colleagues) and lying about it whilst I’m at home with our baby.

It’s been months since I find this out and I just can’t get over it. It probably seems so small and stupid but I had to DRAG the information out of him with irrefutable proof. He just denied denied denied then said “oh I didn’t remember” blah blah blah and now I am just convinced in my mind they must have slept together at least once or kissed or flirted.

I don’t understand why else the flirting emails, the cake, the lies!?!

Am I insane?

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peachypetite · 21/12/2019 17:55

Oh OP :( is there someone in real life you can confide in?

MsDogLady · 21/12/2019 18:09

OP, you were reassured by the colleague’s demeanor at the office, but I have personally witnessed two office infidelity situations where the OWs were perfectly lovely to the wives. They nor the cheating husbands displayed any verbal or nonverbal cues when the spouses were around.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/12/2019 18:16

Unfotunately, such a practised liar will probably deny even this; the "different date" condoms will be some he bought elsewhere and put in with those you use together, and the stash missing will have been "given to a friend"

You know it's nonsense of course - hence his tears at being finally found out - but please do watch out for that blame game I mentioned starting. As said, I can't imagine such a man behaving decently when finally confronted with what he's done

itsahiiiipoop · 21/12/2019 18:51

Op I'm so sorry Thanks

Agree with a pp about the other woman's demeanour... I too have witnessed someone being bold as fucking brass and incredibly sweet to the wife of the husband she was shagging.

Unfortunately there are some vile, awful people in this world.

You are so young and do not deserve a life of paranoia. No amount of counselling or working through it will ever gain that trust back.

Do you have anyone in real life you can confide in for support?

itsahiiiipoop · 21/12/2019 18:56

It's also incredibly wank of him to keep spinning you more lies btw.

It would drive me mad. It's obvious what he's done, there's no denying it. So why won't he?? Instead he decides to continually insult your intelligence and play games.

JustASmallTownCurl · 21/12/2019 19:24

@Loveontherocks100

Oh god no never admitted anything to me. He did to other people.

I went on tinder about 3/4 weeks after we finally split up. He sent me awful messages saying he didn't realise how little I cared about "us".

Which was particularly amusing considering he got caught on Tinder by friends of mine (not on purpose just by chance) TWICE while we were together.

Those times he blamed me saying he just wanted reassurance he was attractive because I wouldn't sleep with him until he had an STI test after cheating another time.

What the FUCK was I thinking!

Nothing quite topped him getting in touch three months after splitting up saying "I can't believe you hate me so much you changed the Netflix password." As in MY Netflix password. Apparently his dignity wasn't worth £8 a month 😂

Honestly at some point you'll look back and laugh at some of the dick moves he's made. You poor thing I'm so sorry this bit is so awful Thanks

Loveontherocks100 · 21/12/2019 19:25

He’s just still denying it.

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PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 21/12/2019 19:29

And he will. What you need now is headspace to work out what to do next.

RandomMess · 21/12/2019 19:29

Of course he will as he is reliant on his lies to "manage" you.

kittyclouds · 21/12/2019 19:36

Bless you OP. Just read your thread. You are such a strong and insightful person. Not loads to add but trust your gut xx

friendlycat · 21/12/2019 19:57

Sadly I don’t think he will admit anything. It’s the old chestnut of keep on denying then there is no concrete proof in his mind. I’m very sorry OP this must be awful for you especially being pregnant. But do you want to live your life like this going forward as you will never have any peace. Perhaps still go to the counselling and just get it all out in the open where it’s more difficult for him to continue lying and denying everything and talking openly in front of somebody else may help you? I realise the timing of all of this is awful for you. Sending you a warm hug.

Loveontherocks100 · 21/12/2019 20:01

I’ve Thrown him out. Went through bank statements and apart from there being huge amounts spent at boots (Weird - must be all the condoms he’s buying); there was yet another evening where he was at His members club and he told me he was on a fucking work call and couldn’t get home. And he spent a lot of money at members club so he was clearly buying lots of drinks and having a fab time whilst texting me how busy he was working.

HE IS A LYING CUNT

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Loveontherocks100 · 21/12/2019 20:02

I am extremely tempted to email colleague to get more proof but don’t want to humiliate myself

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MoStew18 · 21/12/2019 20:06

I'm so sorry OP I can't even imagine what you are going through! Thanks

RandomMess · 21/12/2019 20:07

ThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanks

So sorry, go you have family/friends you can tell/get to come around?

Loveontherocks100 · 21/12/2019 20:20

Friends can’t really my best friend is in Germany and other close friend is 1 hour away with babies. Haven’t told anyone else just those. Mother knows but been out drinking and brother with in laws. Sadly just me. I am exhausted. I hate him so fucking much.

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user1479305498 · 21/12/2019 20:29

I’m afraid statements and mobile bills from before they realise anyone is even taking notice are often a big giveaway, that’s why I knew many moons ago my H had a ridiculous amount of texts going on to a girl who worked with us. I will never I think know exactly the score but it certainly went beyond what I feel would be normal.

Silencedwitness · 21/12/2019 21:15

I’m sorry OP. He sounds like a total shit. The small lies it sounds like he enjoys lying to see if you’ll be taken in and he probably gets a kick out of it. The condoms in the bag strongly suggest he’s a cheating piece of shit.

Here with a handhold.

JustASmallTownCurl · 21/12/2019 21:26

@Loveontherocks100

I am extremely tempted to email colleague to get more proof but don’t want to humiliate myself

I know you know this already but you're right - do not do this!

He has become a compulsive liar. It feels impossible at the time (I've been there) but any search for any answers is pointless. Whatever anyone else says won't make any difference or her you any closure because he'll deny / call you mad etc.

You know enough now to know it's over. You know enough now that he's an arsehole. You know he's a liar.

Again I know it feels impossible but please don't give him the satisfaction of having any opportunity to call you mental to any third party or to you.

Thanks
PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 21/12/2019 21:28

I have to say this:

At the risk of melting your head further there is a small part of me that wonders if he’s the type of absolute mentalist that would plant them there for you to find, confront him and get gaslighted you fuck again.

This is unfair anyway but when pregnant? Reprehensible.

Icepinkeskimo · 21/12/2019 21:44

Just wanted to offer you some support OP.

There is one thing you should bear in mind and it is this. Do you want to live with a man who constantly lies?

I have been there and it's mental torture, always second guessing, always running the words spoken through your mind.

The stupid pointless lies, the manipulation of some of the lies, the twisting of lies to rebound onto you, so then you think am I going crazy?

Lies come in many shapes and forms, it's almost like a power game. Except it's not a game, it's devastating, both to your mental well-being and self esteem.

I now live a simpler life, it's peaceful, less drama sometimes lonely. I would rather have it this way than being like a coiled spring believing that I had lost the plot.

Walk tall, and stay focused OP, and please look after yourself x

Weenurse · 21/12/2019 21:58

💐

Loveontherocks100 · 21/12/2019 22:17

He is admitting now he had an”inkling” she was involved re the golf ball. And he was enjoying all the ego stroking. Most of which appears to have happened around our fucking wedding.

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LexMitior · 21/12/2019 22:39

This man is terrible person and is dragging it out for his own amusement. He knows it will upset you. Don’t let him do it

RandomMess · 21/12/2019 22:46

Why are you letting him torture you over all this?

Most likely he has been actively flirting with others and other inappropriate behaviour since the beginning and getting away with it because he's so good at "managing" you Angry