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I feel like he has cheated

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Loveontherocks100 · 16/12/2019 10:45

Please bear with me because this is quite long, and probably seems very stupid, but I really really can’t get over my husband lying to me/convince myself he didn’t have at best an emotional or worst a physical affair. Let me preface this by saying he works VERY long hours 8-10pm average so always at work. We have 1 baby and 1 on the way.

3 years ago he told me a (young, pretty) colleague at work (we are now 30 for context), had baked him a cake especially for him as he was moving Desk. He was teasing me that she fancied him. I thought this was quite inappropriate of her/an overreaction to a colleague (he’s her direct boss) so asked him to just shut it down. He said he did.

A year later I found an exchange of emails BY ACCIDENT (which I posted about at the time) where she asked if he was coming for drinks and he effectively said he was very sad he couldn’t because I was pregnant. Poor him. She replied “no risk no fun” and there was a great deal of winky emojis and all fairly inappropriate. Given the cake incident I was displeased and said I wanted him to stop indulging in flirting with a colleague he had said fancied him. A few months later he said she left the team for another one.

9 months later I basically find out (not from him) that she has been working for him all along. They sit near each other. He has repeatedly lied to me about it. He has been going for drinks with her and (supposedly) other colleagues. Going to nightclubs with her (and other colleagues) and lying about it whilst I’m at home with our baby.

It’s been months since I find this out and I just can’t get over it. It probably seems so small and stupid but I had to DRAG the information out of him with irrefutable proof. He just denied denied denied then said “oh I didn’t remember” blah blah blah and now I am just convinced in my mind they must have slept together at least once or kissed or flirted.

I don’t understand why else the flirting emails, the cake, the lies!?!

Am I insane?

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PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 18/12/2019 16:54

In summation: it’s not worth it.

Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 16:54

@amd4578

His position currently is that nothing happens but he hates himself and is sorry for lying to me over nothing and making me sad.

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Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 16:55

@PaulHollywoodsSexGut

I am so sorry - it sounds like it massively had an impact on you and very, very upsetting. 🌺

Are you still with him? I’m sorry if you said upthread, just lots of replies so getting a bit confused with posters

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PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 18/12/2019 16:56

No OP. The marriage was shit and broke up the end of 2014.

I am now with lovely DH and we have three lovely children x

Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 16:57

@PaulHollywoodsSexGut

Although she was scared of you and still is so that’s something I suppose

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Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 16:57

@PaulHollywoodsSexGut

Wonderful!!!

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amd4578 · 18/12/2019 17:02

Yes but the people in the office don't have any context so they won't know any of this.. I'm trying to stop you making a fool or yourself..

I get he lied I really do but from what I have read from you he did tell you she told him she francied him and then he told you about The cake... Could it have been your reaction to when he told you this to think oh shit I better not mention her any more as it really seems that even if he had told you everything up straight you would still have object to all of it?

Like others have said it's not like he could have excluded her from anything they do outside of work as that can cause its own troubles.

Like you said if the trust is gone then end it what are you hoping to achieve otherwise?

TheReef · 18/12/2019 17:02

Why now after all this time are you allowed into his office?

itsahiiiipoop · 18/12/2019 17:07

I have no advice op. But just wanted to say that you're not going mad. He is playing a cruel game here and it just sounds so dodgy.

I couldn't be with someone that lies to me full stop, whether that be about what loaf of bread was available in the shop or full blown affairs. It would be a very false relationship, as I'd feel like I wouldn't truly know them and living with a stranger.

Fizzys advice, as always is absolutely spot on.

I'm so sorry you're going through this, all whilst pregnant. Please keep posting for support Thanks

Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 17:09

Like others have said it's not like he could have excluded her from anything they do outside of work as that can cause its own troubles

He absolutely did not need to take her to his members club did he. Could have said there’s a limit of 2 Whcih there is, not tried incredibly hard to get her in also.

My reaction to the cake was fine. She didn’t say she fancied him, HE said she fancied him! It wasn’t some sort of confession, it was obviously an ego boost for him and to fuck with me a bit.

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JoanBonJovi · 18/12/2019 17:11

I think going to the office is not really very cool at all. Especially if you dress yourself up. You look like you have a reason to be there that you wouldn’t normally. Please don’t go

Nutcrackerz · 18/12/2019 17:11

I think I’m now veering towards you not going. He is waving it as a carrot but the point is the lies not the seeing her. You could just say that he thinks he’s proving something to you but he isn’t. He can parade everyone up and down in front of you but he lied and lied again and that’s the issue not her bloody baking. He might feel he has proved something by you trotting song to the office but he hasn’t.

I don’t know. But Chumplady looks comprehensively like she does. It’s more about whether you pick him. And he should feel it.

tomatobread · 18/12/2019 17:18

Angry furious at all the people on this thread also trying to gaslight you op!

I'd not be able to help going. Not sure it will achieve much though.

Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 17:20

I think I can’t stop myself going either, tomatobread

But it will be under some bullshit thing eg we are going for lunch after. Something. DH will take us for lunch after anyway. And Then I can say I’m going to harrods or some nonsense I would never actually do with my toddler.

I would have loved to go under normal circumstances just to meet the people I’ve heard so much about and show off DS.

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Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 17:21

@TheReef

I just asked him and he said he just ASSUMED it wasn’t allowed as his last company forbade it...

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CoolcoolcoolcoolcoolNoDoubt · 18/12/2019 17:23

@amd4578 worded it better than me. Surely if something has happened between them two, they’ve managed to keep it secret from colleagues. In which case if you go in all guns blazing they will think you’re crazy. Which is totally unfair but I think that’s what would happen.

If you hate him right now, and she’s unlikely to be there, why would you put yourself through this? It’s not like you popping in is a default thing.

Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 17:26

He just messaged me to say he spoke to some recruiters today and is asking about other jobs because he is taking my feelings seriously (I in no way have asked him to do this)

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Arnoldthecat · 18/12/2019 17:26

OP this must be mental torture for you and incredibly stressful. As you realise, the big problem is that you have no irrefutable evidence that any thing intimate or sexual has taken place. What we do have is office over familiarity and him seemingly trying to lessen its meaning or impact. Even if something is going on, well he is on guard now.

Some women can be very predatory and ruthless if they want a man. Ive seen it myself. I had some friends who were a married couple with a child. They were well off,had all the good things in life. Another married couple would often socialise with them,come to their home for drinks etc. A third party (another woman) spoke to my female friend and told her directly that she thought this other woman was after her husband and to "keep an eye on her". My female friend dismissed it. Guess what, less than a year downline her husband had left to be with her.

Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 17:26

I feel like this is all manipulative shit though and he would never actually leave. Tempted to call his bluff

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amd4578 · 18/12/2019 17:27

I don't think people are gaslighting here.. Just stating that with no context she will look silly going in? Plus if a man said I'm going to use my child as an excuse to go s on someone I think my partner is with there would be outrage..

If it's the lying OP then you going there won't change that so what's the point? Just end if if the trust is gone!

amd4578 · 18/12/2019 17:29

I think that deep down is what you wanted and there is nothing wrong with that.. I have worked in corporate banking... Its a sleazy as hell place to work

Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 17:30

Plus if a man said I'm going to use my child as an excuse to go s on someone I think my partner is with there would be outrage

Can you please stop commenting on this thread - you are literally just making me feel bad with all your comments. I really don’t need it right now

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Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 17:31

And it’s not what I wanted. He loves his job, we have a wonderful life because of his salary etc and I have never before had any issues. His work culture is much better than previous offices and I am very keen for him to stay all the way to SMD. They appreciate and like him there. I really DO NOT want him to leave. But I’m sick of him pretending to offer things then snatch it away.

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RandomMess · 18/12/2019 17:35

Just Thanks because he has been a shit to you with arrogance and the lies. I hope he is sincere about committing to you and stopping his unacceptable behaviour.

Loveontherocks100 · 18/12/2019 17:37

@RandomMess

Thank you x

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