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Reconciliation after estrangement?

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Albinoni · 30/11/2019 10:39

I have NC'd for this but have posted in the past about my relationship with DD1 and was grateful for the advice and support which I received. The posts have since been deleted, at my request, but some of you may remember 'Lobster Boy', and my concerns that DD was in a controlling relationship and that I risked losing her.

Unfortunately, my fears were justified as DD seemed to become more and more withdrawn from the family, saying that her BF was her family now. She ghosted all of the family entirely for six months - apparently she just blocked us all - then there were occasional calls and she did send birthday cards etc. She moved house without providing an address and we didn't see her for two and a half years. I cannot begin to describe how painful that period was for me and DH and her sisters, but those of you who have been through this process of living bereavement will understand.

Anyway, the good news is that there has been a reconciliation following a lunch on neutral ground, in a restaurant, earlier this year (she lives hundreds of miles away from us). Prior to that, she had provided her address, so that we could send some books to her which are relevant to a course which she is intending to take next year. At the lunch, she said that they had married the previous year, and we said how pleased we were, and contact continued to improve.

The following month they asked if they could borrow some money to put towards buying a property and we agreed. Shortly after that, DD told me she was expecting a baby (due any day now), which I was overjoyed about. Then, a few weeks after that - and this is the part I am really struggling with - we received a letter from DD and SIL enclosing photos of the 14 month old which they already had. The accompanying letter was quite upsetting as it said they hadn't told us about DGC because they didn't want her to experience broken relationships and they hadn't been sure whether or not they wanted us involved at all, but they felt guilty at taking our money and not telling us about DGC.

DD and I subsequently had an emotional conversation and, since then, DD has been in contact with me virtually every day with messages and photos and is behaving almost as though nothing has happened. She says I can't think about the past or what I have missed and clearly wants to move forward. I know that she is right in that we cannot change the past and she assures me that she definitely does want us to be involved.

But I am in such turmoil over this. Obviously I am thrilled and excited about the reconciliation and the DGC, but I feel so desperately hurt and upset that she didn't tell any of us about all of these things, especially as I believed that we were close before. I am really struggling, to be honest, although it's early days and there is a lot to come to terms with.

We haven't met DGC1 yet as I think we both felt that it would be better to wait for the baby to be born and then meet them both together, when the emotions have died down a bit. The last thing I want to do is cause her any stress at this time and I sense that they are anxious at our meeting her PILs for the first time. I am also anxious about it, although they sound like lovely people and have been very supportive to DD. But goodness knows what they must think of us. I am also worried about becoming attached to the DGC in case they are taken away from me. I just couldn't put myself through all that again.

So I was wondering if anyone could give me advice if you have been in a similar situation. How easy was it to reconcile? Did the whole family reconcile or was it a piecemeal process? Did you involve any professional help, such as a counsellor or family mediator? Has it worked out? Are things the same and can the relationship ever really recover or is it just different? I really don't want to mess this up, as I have realised how fragile relationships can be, but I am feeling a bit overwhelmed.

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Albinoni · 04/02/2020 15:43

Thanks everyone. He has to go back to the hospital for more tests tomorrow and we will know more next week.

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champagneandfromage50 · 04/02/2020 15:47

Albinoni my DH was diagnosed with cancer last year too. Feel free to PM and I can link you to some closed FB groups I have joined

ddraigygoch · 04/02/2020 15:48

I am so so sorry. I can't believe you've had even more put on your shoulders.
All the best to your husband. I hope his recovery is quick and straight forward.

And I really hope you're OK. Please take care of yourself. When you've got a moment contact McMillan. They were absolutely amazing when my family member was diagnosed and they really supported both my dad and SM.

Albinoni · 04/02/2020 15:48

It's cancer of the gullet which I think is quite aggressive.

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billybagpuss · 04/02/2020 15:50

Keeping everything crossed for you, I’ll also second Macmillan, our hospital also has local support groups that were very helpful.

RandomMess · 04/02/2020 15:56

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Ghostontoast · 04/02/2020 16:06

Very sorry to read this news.

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RossPoldarkFan · 04/02/2020 16:23

I'm very sorry to hear about your husband.

BluebellCockleshell123 · 04/02/2020 16:24

Oh my goodness Albinoni, I am so sorry to hear this news about your DH’s diagnosis. You must all be devastated. You sound like such a v lovely person and to have had such a lot of traumatic events throughout your life is just not fair.

I don’t know where you are in the country but if there’s a Maggie’s Centre near you then do think about dropping in. The centres are usually lovely spaces to have a calm cup of tea and they have incredible staff who can provide wonderful emotional or practical support or just a listening ear.

Sending kind thoughts your way Flowers

beanaseireann · 04/02/2020 16:51

Albinoni I am sorry to hear that your dh has been diagnosed with cancer.
Thanks

Okki · 04/02/2020 17:31

Albinoni, I'm so sorry to read about your DH. I hope you know there are many strangers thinking of you all and wishing you and your family all the very best. I hope the results of the tests are the best they can be. ThanksThanksThanks

SirVixofVixHall · 04/02/2020 18:53

Oh Albinoni I am so sorry to read that. Wishing him healing and you all love.

SirVixofVixHall · 04/02/2020 18:58

And as a pp says, we all feel for you on the thread, we are all reading this, thinking of you and your family, and beaming out our good wishes to your husband.

5LeafClover · 04/02/2020 20:31

Flowers and very best wishes to you both.

mcmooberry · 04/02/2020 20:47

@Albinoni I am very sorry indeed to hear this and very shocked too. Stay strong, he is fortunate to have you by his side, write down questions (and answers) when you see the doctors so you can understand as much as possible. This threat to his life of course makes everything else seem unimportant, will be thinking of you and hoping that he can be fully cured of this.

Gutterton · 04/02/2020 20:58

You must all be blindsided by this. So sorry that this is happening to you all. I hope that you will know that everyone here has been so concerned and wanting the best for you over last few the years and support is always here. You come across as a deeply loving and strong woman and I am sure that this has been passed on to your DDs who will now hold you through this. I wish you the very best outcome over the next week. X

springydaff · 04/02/2020 21:04

Oh my dear, as if you haven't had enough shitty shitty things happen Flowers

I'm sorry to be been there, done that here but I've also had cancer. The treatment is revolting, there's no getting around that I'm afraid, but here I am. It's not necessarily the end at all.

It also changed things for the better in my own appalling domestic situation. Here's hoping someone in your family may snap to their senses..?

Thinking of you very much 💐🌹🌺🌷

Singlewhiteguineapig · 04/02/2020 21:35

FlowersFlowers to you and your husband. Really sorry to hear about this xxx

MondayTuesdayWednesday · 04/02/2020 22:13

@Albinoni so sorry to hear about your DH.

Albinoni · 05/02/2020 07:55

Thank you everyone. Just can't think straight now so will probably not post for a while but I do appreciate all of your support x

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Snog · 05/02/2020 08:18

Sorry to hear that you are going through this OP ThanksThanks

ddraigygoch · 06/02/2020 07:27

Thinking of you @Albinoni Thanks
I hope you and your DH are OK

Albinoni · 06/02/2020 12:51

Thank you.

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Albinoni · 08/02/2020 07:36

Thank you for those of you who were kind enough to PM me. I really appreciate it.

It is now Day 5 since the diagnosis, so have been through the whole gamut of emotions, and feel in total limbo until we have a proper diagnosis and prognosis, which will be sometime next week.

DD1 has actually been very concerned. After ringing DH twice in two days, she and I spoke yesterday - it was one of those telepathic moments when I received a message from her, just as I was about to message her. She wanted to know exactly how DH was and made me promise to call her as soon as we had more news. She seemed/was very genuine in her concern. I said it was good that she called him. She said 'Of course, I would call him', in a slightly indignant way, and I bit my tongue in replying. She finished by saying 'Love you' and was quite natural. In fact, I have now realised that all telephone conversations are 'normal' - any friction comes from the written word, so it is apparent that these messages are composed or influenced by LB, who is a prime example of a 'keyboard warrior'.

DD1 also seemed concerned that we would still visit in March and I had to say that I really don't know, because I suspect that they will start the treatment in the next 2-3 weeks. Anyway, it seemed clear that she genuinely wants to see us and that it has been LB who has prevented/delayed this. If we could just have gone on the January date, the one which she made us postpone, we could have had such a happy few days, and clear of this cloud which now hovers ominously above us. And if the prognosis is not good, DH may never meet or rarely meet the DGC, which would have brought him, indeed all of the family, such joy, instead of the pain and upset over the last few years. He/we could have seen her on her wedding day, held our new DGDs, shared those special moments, which are the touchstones of family life and life itself.

I have some quite difficult feelings around that, and I expect DD1 may also have some regrets in the future, if indeed not now. However, it is not constructive to dwell upon them. DD1 asked if it was still ok to send photos of the DGDs and I said of course. We need to all now pull together. DD2and DD3 continue to be amazing.

Sadly, I can't help wondering if LB is hoping for the worst and wondering if there is anything in it for him. I remember that DH's father had given DH £20k to be shared between the DDs, to buy driving lessons, car, whatever. All DDs knew about this and very relaxed about when they had it, trusted us to keep it for them, didn't seem bothered about when they had it as they knew it was there. And we bought the car, driving lessons etc, so they knew it was there for the future. But after meeting LB, DD1 called at least four times to ask where her money was, which account it was it in etc etc. She sounded a bit uncomfortable and it was as though LB had planted the idea that we might have taken her money. It was so unlike the trusting relationship which we all had before. It was horrible really.

Apparently, LB has decided to do his qualifying teaching year next year whilst DD1 does her PGCE, so I wonder how long it will be before there is a request for childcare costs. But I can't think about that right now. All my love and energy is focused on DH who is being so brave and stoical, but who must be terrified.

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RandomMess · 08/02/2020 07:55

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One day at a time X