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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:57

My OP was supposed to say "gain clarity" not clarify Blush

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whywhywhy6 · 14/11/2019 16:01

Yeah I’d be feeling pretty suspicious too, I’m sorry. Flowers

RatherBeRiding · 14/11/2019 16:01

There's definitely something going on. The story about the ex and the stillbirth doesn't ring true, and I think you got it spot on in the first sentence - mind games.

You can continue to allow him to play you, or you can take back the control and ask him to leave until he's sorted himself out. The 6 hours "overtime" is also likely to be bullshit. But I think you know this.

Aquamarine1029 · 14/11/2019 16:05

He has lied before, I don't trust him.

This is all you need to know, really.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:08

I know the maximum amount of hours somebody can be asked to stay by law, I don't believe for a second the company would have him working 15+ hours.

He knows he couldn't explain today away as over time again so came up with the doctors story. From what I can grasp from his vague and evasive texts, he's made the doctors appointment but has been out alone all day "thinking" and being depressed.

When I asked questions about the stillborn nothing made sense. He was never shown evidence of pregnancy, scans or anything that the mother had to remember the baby by. The baby was never named, no death certificate etc.

He's supposed to be working again tonight but hasn't been back since leaving for work last night.

He has aspergers if that's relevant, so he's a poor communicator.

I would respect him more if he just fucked off with an OW and was upfront about it, rather than making me second guess myself wondering if I'm not being understanding and making allowances for some sort of breakdown.

It's the latter I find the cruellest

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IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 14/11/2019 16:08

Sounds like he told you the (probably true) baby story to make you feel like you were finding out what he was keeping secret and he hoped you’d be satisfied with that. (Character in Corrie did exactly this last night when his fiancé was getting suspicious about his behaviour)

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 14/11/2019 16:10

Btw when I Say the baby story is probably true I mean there is probably an element of truth in it but he will have embellished it to suit his story.

Candle1000 · 14/11/2019 16:10

He’s either cheating or (like my friends husband was when he went awol) taking cocaine. It doesn’t look good which ever way you look at it.

QueenofPain · 14/11/2019 16:10

Just get rid of him, what a head fuck.

Twinmummy2018 · 14/11/2019 16:11

Very strange situation.

I am not sure what to say to be honest. Try and keep calm for the sake of you and your children.

Personally i would just ignore him for now don't contact and don't ask when he will be home and just get on with your own things, see if he comes to you and is willing to open up. IF he really is feeling depressed and he isn't lying to hide something else, then i think pressing the matter could make it worse right now.

Give it a few days and hopefully he will come to you to talk.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:13

He's definitely not taking drugs, he's tee total and doesn't like to drink either.

I don't believe for a second he would be walking around all day in this weather, it's freezing and he doesn't have a car at the moment.

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BarbedBloom · 14/11/2019 16:15

I would be thinking that either the stillbirth story is true and they have bonded over it and may be having an affair or are heading toward it, or it isn't true and is being used as a cover, in which case the lie is so awful I wouldn't want to be with him anyway.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:16

He should know he would be able to talk to me about anything, unfortunately he doesn't 'do' the whole opening up thing.

Until he mentioned the stillborn,

Now he's gone inwards again.

I want to believe he's being truthful and this is mental health related, but none of it makes any logical sense to me.

I've had depression in the past and never checked out of family life, I think even if he is struggling he has an obligation to work through it in a healthy way for the sake of the children.

Having me spiral into a panic constantly is piss poor behaviour Sad

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wineconnoisseur · 14/11/2019 16:18

Well straight away my thoughts were that when you demanded to know what was going on he assumed that you'd found something out. Maybe he's been cheating with his ex GF and thought maybe you'd seen messages or something from her and so came up with the still born story to try and make you think that's why they've been in contact with each other?!?
That was my first thought but who knows..

nomoreclue · 14/11/2019 16:18

He’s not walking around in this weather. He’s at it with another woman. I personally wouldn’t let him back home. It’s not ok to be treated like this

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:19

He told me the exes name who had the stillborn and i looked her up on Facebook.

She has children and is the type to post about them, hundreds of pictures, but nothing as a tribute to the baby she lost.

I appreciate people deal with things differently, though.

AFAIK he hasn't spoken to her in about 7 or 8 years so i don't know why this has come up now.

He's definitely hiding something I think, at the minute it's his whereabouts (gone silent again when I said I want to know where he is)

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LucileDuplessis · 14/11/2019 16:21

The thing is, OP, it doesn't really matter (from your point of view) whether or not the baby story is true.

The things that you know to be true are:
He's said he's leaving you three times in the last fortnight.
He goes awol and doesn't respond to your worried texts for hours.
He has lied in the past and you don't trust him.

These are the key facts. For you to even consider continuing this relationship he needs to STOP doing these things.

Why are you 'ashamed' to say you're on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away? You've got nothing to be ashamed of. He's the one treating you badly. Even if the baby story is true (or has some truth to it), that doesn't mean he can't reply to a quick text to stop you worrying when he is six hours late home.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:21

Wine, your post has just clicked. That makes alot of sense. I really hope that's not true but it's very plausible IMO

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GinderellaByMidnight · 14/11/2019 16:23

A few years ago my Ex partner (father to my DD) tried pulling the mental health story on me for months said he had depression etc etc I believed him, even tried to help the fucker. Turns out he was playing away and his guilt was eating him up, hence the depression.
Non of this sounds good OP I’m sorry Flowers

DippyAvocado · 14/11/2019 16:24

The stillbirth story may or may not be true but the unexplained missing hours point distinctly to an affair so I would focus on that if you speak to him.

wineconnoisseur · 14/11/2019 16:25

If i were you I'd have to message him and act like I know what's going on (even though you don't really) but I'd have to say something to trick him into thinking you know.. "I know you're cheating on me with your ex.."
if he is then he'll be shitting it!!

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:26

I'm trying to attach screenshots of our text exchange but I don't have the option to on my phone

I'm so stressed and confused.

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:31

No idea why I can't upload pictures but I've now text him saying

"Well as you are telling me you're depressed, need help and are now not responding having gone missing, I'll have to report this and ask the police to do a welfare check because your behaviour is a cause for concern"

I'm not by the way, I want to see his response.

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GinderellaByMidnight · 14/11/2019 16:36

Just a thought... can you not find out where he is via the “nearby friends” on Facebook ? That is if he’s got it switched on.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:36

Oh surprise surprise, he has responded quickly to that one.

"Yes i am outside in this weather n im on my way home, im not suicidal at all ok. Im more pissed off with myself and a lot of choices i have made"

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