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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

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letsdolunch321 · 14/11/2019 18:43

So he has worked a night shift, was due home at 10am, sat in the park till 4pm and thinks you will swallow the lies

Please, what sort of a piss take is this twat!!!

Before he leaves tonight, take his door keys away and tell him to fuck off.

He has zero consideration regards you or your dcs. Disgusting behaviour from him.

Needsomebottle · 14/11/2019 19:02

My instinct is that he is up to something that costs money, be it some sort of addiction or habit (or plans with OW?) that costs more money than he has left at the end of the month and the combination of hiding something from you and not having enough money for it is stressing him out and making him anxious and cross. This business about being disappointed with his life choices or whatever he said seems very cryptic. I'd be pushing that. He's clearly hiding something and not doing a great job of that. I wonder if he wants to to push him and is either looking to come clean or looking for a way out?

Whatever is going on, he's treating you like shit. Don't stand for it.

Needsomebottle · 14/11/2019 19:03

*wants you to push him (to tell you the truth) or even to give him "grounds" to say you're being unreasonable so he can walk?

nomoreclue · 14/11/2019 19:11

I think he left work and went to another woman’s house for the day. He hasn’t been sat in a park all day. That’s crap. Ask him outright if he’s been with another woman and watch his face.

BedraggledBlitz · 14/11/2019 19:18

Trust your gut OP.

My ex cheated and I just knew it, but i spent weeks waiting for the bombshell to drop. Eventually I found out by checking his phone, he'd forgotten to delete sent emails to OW. God knows how long I would have been in the dark for if I hadn't looked.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 19:22

He has form for hiding things because he doesn't like confrontation AKA serious conversations and discussions.

The other week it was about the exes baby, then he was confused, now he's pissed off because he's not going to be left with much spare money after paying out the extra things he needs to pay for this month. Whoop de do it's part of life sometimes (paying out, not the baby)

Christmas is fine and sorted presents wise so he doesn't need to worry about that.

It feels like a red herring and just another excuse he's thrown out like a rabbit caught in the headlights when he can't explain his whereabouts.

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Candle1000 · 14/11/2019 19:24

Can you get hold of his phone ? See if there’s anything on there .

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 19:28

I've never checked his phone in the entire time we've been together but I'm thinking maybe I should have tried to.

It's easier said than done though because he never leaves it lying around, he has been known to go to sleep with it in his pocket. I asked why and he says because he watches sport on YouTube in bed before going to sleep.

The phone is never anywhere to be seen unless he's using it. It's always been that way.

Recently though, he was having a shave and walked into the bathroom to speak to him the other day to find him texting. He said he was texting his manager to ask about his shifts.

Another day I walked into the bedroom, he was in bed and dived down like he had been caught doing something wrong. I asked what he was doing and he said he was taking a naughty photo to send to me (not unusual, we do that sometimes) but said photo never arrived Hmm

Everything together makes me feel like a mug for not seeing what is going on in front of my eyes. I've been blind, wanting to believe he's not doing me wrong.

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Candle1000 · 14/11/2019 19:30

It all points to an affair .

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 19:32

Yes I agree, it's undeniable when I look at everything as a whole

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GummyGoddess · 14/11/2019 19:39

All that overtime and he's still broke?

Dumptyhumpty101 · 14/11/2019 19:39

OP why don’t you say to him you believe he is having an affair and would like to see his phone. His response will tell you everything you need to know.

category12 · 14/11/2019 19:55

Bullshit has he sat in the park all day. It sounds like something someone imagines a depressed person might do, but the reality is, you sit there a few minutes, you get chilled to the bone and you bloody well move.

It's amazing what a load of shite someone will come up with, when they're up to no good but want to play the pity card.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 19:56

The overtime has been in the past fortnight so he won't be paid for that until the end of the month. Still, yes it's odd that he's been working so much and yet is still saying all his wage will be eaten up on the decorating etc.

I could put it on his toes that I want to see his phone but I'm almost anxious about what I would see. If I saw something to indicate an affair it would bring me to my knees. Somehow it feels easier to just not see it.

I realise that's cowardly on my behalf.

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 19:59

Yes category I agree.

I had postnatal depression badly but never behaved like that.

Nobody would sit in a freezing park all day, I said that to him and he said he wasn't cold he has layers on. Lying arse.

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Candle1000 · 14/11/2019 20:01

I know it will be devastating to find out about an affair but it must be worse to carry on like this ?

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 20:03

I've never wanted more than now, for him to just come out and admit he has been having an affair. That would be kinder than this.

Instead he's making me confused, doubt myself, doubt him and second guess everything.

If he was honest I could know where i stand and react accordingly, but he's choosing to say he's depressed etc so there's a part of me that worries he might be, because I love him, and then doubt myself as to whether I'm being cruel to consider ending things.

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 20:05

Yes candle it probably is Sad

I just don't want to see anything that will upset me, self preservation.

I need to see things for what they are and woman up.

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Candle1000 · 14/11/2019 20:06

Tell him you think he’s having an affair, if he really is depressed and nothing else is going on then he should show you his phone etc to prove it.

BendyLikeBeckham · 14/11/2019 20:10

He showered as soon as he got in? Hmm

OP, I agree that he is either having an affair or has a Really Big Problem that he can't deal with (gambling, drugs, gangsters, debt) Whatever it is, he is keeping a big secret from you. That is not acceptable in a marriage.

I agree that you should just ask him outright about the affair and to see his phone. Don't worry about seeing something you don't want to see. He will NEVER let you have access to his phone. The way he reacts will tell you all you need to know.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 20:20

I agree I need to ask to see his phone, I'm being a fool by not demanding at this stage.

Also agree that the likelihood is he won't show me anyway, so his response will be the giveaway.

Yep he showered when he got in, well about 20 mins later because I was quizzing him and asking for answers.

I wouldn't usually bat an eye at him showering after work but after today's performance it's suspect isn't it.

I didn't even register that until it was highlighted here. I really am a fucking mug Sad

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 20:23

I'm sat here freezing even with the radiator and dressing gown on in the house. Like fuck he's been sat out in that all day, he'd have come home frozen.

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DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 14/11/2019 20:26

My daughter was stillborn and we have a Certificate Of Stillbirth not a Death Certificate (this may vary by region, I don't know, but the precise circumstances can definitely decide which certificate is used.) . Over a certain number of weeks gestation, it has to be registered. Not naming a baby would be highly unusual but not impossible I suppose. But added all together it sounds fishy.
It might not be infidelity, but whatever it is, he is making you unhappy and not behaving well at all.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 20:30

I'm so sorry for your loss too Dontdribble, I hope my post hasn't upset those here who have lost a child to stillbirth. I'm kicking myself for not putting a trigger warning in my OP. I will ask MN to amend my title.

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

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SpinneyHill · 14/11/2019 20:34

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