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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

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FinnBalorsAbs · 14/11/2019 16:42

He's trying to mess with your head. Well done on keeping as calm as you can.

Aquamarine1029 · 14/11/2019 16:42

Stop allowing him to fuck you about like this. When he arrived home you should greet him at the door with a packed bag. He wants to leave so badly, give him a helping hand.

IndieTara · 14/11/2019 16:42

Op he's making you second guess and doubt yourself.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 16:47

Yes I'm 90 percent sure I want him gone, the ten percent percent was me wondering whether he is indeed in crisis and needs time/support.

He was happy to ignore my worried texts until I say ok I'll call this in as a welfare concern, then suddenly he's able to respond and say he's coming home.

Even if he is depressed which I doubt, it's no excuse to treat me like this. We have a young baby here aswell as the older DC and having me frantic with worry is appalling behaviour when i have the children to care for.

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RLEOM · 14/11/2019 16:48

Sorry OP, but I think you know what's really going on here. It sounds like one big elaborate lie to throw you off the scent. Surely this is something he would've discussed sooner, and it doesn't explain about why he'd do 6 hours of extra overtime.

Line your dicks up in a row and leave.

RLEOM · 14/11/2019 16:48

Ducks! 🤦‍♀️

PersephoneOP · 14/11/2019 16:50

He is playing you.

He's told you three times he's leaving, then changes his mind? How is that fair to you? He either wants to be with you or he doesn't and the way he is acting is so disrespectful and darn right rude it points to the latter.

Is he even thinking about your poor DC while he's off for hours? You're his family, you should be his priority, even if he is having MH issues.

Do not feel shame because you don't want a selfish prick in your life who is most likely cheating on you. Women put up with way too much in a marriage, when a partner stops respecting and considering you, it's time to leave.

Wishing you all the best OP.

Krazynights34 · 14/11/2019 16:51

I’m so sorry this is happening to you. As pps say it’s not really relevant if he was telling an element of truth - he’s mistreated you.
For what it’s worth (and I don’t want to make things worse here) I’ve had a stillborn baby. Legally a stillborn baby has to have a death certificate. Every stillborn baby in the baby cemetery where my daughter is buried is marked. Some babies were not given first names but 99 percent were. They all were given simple wooden markers (parents can then choose to replace with a headstone etc). I think that’s absolute horseshit that he’s told you (whether by ex or not).
But that’s not the main point anyway. I think wine is spot on!

MummyJasmin · 14/11/2019 16:56

Sorry OP.

DiaryofWimpyMumm · 14/11/2019 16:57

It doesn't sound good. It must be mentally draining for you!

Ferretyone · 14/11/2019 16:59

@Tisverycold

I am not aware of any maximum daily limit. The elections are coming up and I work as presiding officer at a polling station from 0600 to 2300. I opt out from the working time directive though I am not convinced that I need to.

I hope that the visit to the doctor is the truth. Being of an investigative nature I would be tempted [with help perhaps] to observe from afar if you can furtively glean the appointment without showing any interest

pudding21 · 14/11/2019 17:08

My first thought was ex is in the picture again and the story, true or not about the stillbirth is pre justifying it while he decides what he wants to do. But we don’t know him, what does your gut say?

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 17:20

I'm so sorry for your loss Krazy Flowers

He claims his ex took him to a community cemetery, to an unmarked grave there. It wasn't a hospital cemetery for babies.

It doesn't sound right does it? No name, nothing on a headstone, no memorials or pictures/evidence of pregnancy. No tributes on social media but hundreds of pics and posts of her other children.

He has just walked in with a face like a slapped arse.

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Krazynights34 · 14/11/2019 17:27

My baby is in a community cemetery too (the council pay for the plot and marker). He’s telling porkies.
I hope you are ok now he’s back

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 17:35

I asked where he's been all day he said sat in a park, from 10.30 this morning until he just got home.

I asked what on earth it's about now.

He's saying he's annoyed about money because when he gets paid next he won't have anything left for himself, it all goes on loan repayment, rent and tiling we need doing.

I don't see his point, I don't have much left at the end of the month either.

Its all bollocks isn't it. Any old excuse that he thinks will wash.

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Candle1000 · 14/11/2019 17:54

Tell him to sort himself out - cut the lies and tell you exactly what’s going on . If you are in a partnership and you have money worries then you sit down and discuss it like an adult, you don’t disappear for bloody hours on end !

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 18:00

That's pretty much what i said to him.

The thing is we don't have money worries, we have enough for everything we need and a little treat or two per month. The kids xmas presents are sorted. We're not rolling in it granted, but we're hardly destitute.

His moaning about money makes no sense, unless you're a high earner then alot of your wage going on necessities is life isn't it.

He doesn't see me moaning about it.

It's just more of the same disingenuous crap to be honest, whatever he thinks will wash.

He's now in the shower and I presume going to sleep for three hours before going back to work tonight.

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Candle1000 · 14/11/2019 18:04

If he has somewhere to stay (parents maybe) I’d ask him to leave until he can talk to you honestly , if he’s going to keep bullshitting you , you’ll never get anywhere.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 18:11

On the subject of money £10 vanished out of my bag pocket last night before he left for work, despite me having seen it there before he got up to get ready.

He denies going in my bag and taking it of course, but money doesn't grow legs and walk does it, absolutely positive the kids haven't had it.

So many lies.

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 18:14

He's going to sleep until 9 then back to work, I won't make a scene tonight but he's not getting back in tomorrow. He has places he could go.

I'll text him once he's left and tell him, that's about as much respect as he has afforded me lately so I don't owe him anything.

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Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 14/11/2019 18:14

My first thought was that he is waiting to see how the land lays with another woman...I mean maybe she is in a relationship too and they are trying to figure it out who goes where but then I am not so sure.My dh suffers from poor mental health genuinely and I know when he is on a downer he can act like your man too...Mine gets exhausted and when he does he panics.He panics about money,about his job about us about the kids all totally randomly.He worries about things that would never usually concern him and it becomes a big deal.Then he has to escape us for some peace to kind of pull himself round.He usually goes to his parents for a couple of days.I accept this as I know when he is approaching an episode.I can read him like a book and I know he never has and wouldnt cheat on me but life gets too much some days in his head.It is easier to accept now we have a diagnosis for him.So I just dont know with your post what to advise.I think my first thought was wrong about cheating ..you both need to talk and its not easy to start ...best of luck OP ...

Candle1000 · 14/11/2019 18:16

Is he gambling? I still wouldn’t rule out drugs tbh.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 18:24

Alot of what you've said sounds familiar Sally, so I'm not absolutely certain without doubt that he's not having a poor mental health episode.

He has never been depressed before, or shown any signs of becoming that way though.

All of this is very recent with no obvious cause.

I just don't know what's going on with him at the minute, but I do know it's dragging me down.

I'm approachable and understanding, he could have told me he needed space and to deal with his mental health and I would have respected that and supported him to the extent he wanted me to.

It's the way he has gone about everything, it stinks of betrayal.

Disappearing, vague answers about where he has been, claiming ridiculous amounts of overtime, saying he has been sat in a cold park all day long, unable to prove he has been where he said he has.

I would like to keep the family together but I don't see how I can, he's not meeting me half way.

If space is what he wants then space is what he can have because after today I'm so worn down by the coming and going I'm going to end up depressed myself.

I asked about the so called doctors appointment when he got in and he said he's "waiting for a call back" because they "have no appointments available for the next two weeks"

He is somebody who moans when it's chilly in the house but expects me to believe he's been sat on a park bench all day and done two walks around said park.

It's unfathomable.

He admitted to seeing my texts come through, me saying I'm worried, and chose not to reply and reassure me he was ok. He couldn't give an explanation as to why he didn't reply "I just didn't" is all he could offer.

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 18:24

I've never known him to have a problem with gambling but nothing would surprise me at this stage.

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PleaseHelpM3 · 14/11/2019 18:28

I rarely post but I'm posting because Lily Allan has spoken openly about how upsetting she found reports of her miscarriage in the press because she'd actually experienced still birth and that after 24 weeks she was given the death certificate.

Sorry OP.

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