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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

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Rose87777 · 14/11/2019 20:38

You absolutely need to get hold of his phone. I’m also convinced he is up to no good. Also if he’d just worked a night shift wouldn’t he be absolutely shattered?! No way would he be able to tolerate sitting in the cold that tired!

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 20:43

Excuse me, he has never been interrogated about the stillbirth. I listened and comforted him. The doubts I have I kept to myself thank you very much.

None of what he told me made sense but I didn't tell him that, I would never tell him he's lying about that. What I actually suspected was that it was the ex who had made it up. Not him.

You would be hard pressed to find any woman that doesn't suspect foul play when their partner is disappearing, wanting to end the relationship then changing his mind three times in a week, spending a night away under the guise of being confused then deciding he loves me again.

Doing a load of over time, working way past the point that any employer would expect him to work then saying he's going to be skint at the end of the month.

Pretending to have spent the entire day sat in a park in the freezing cold.

Being secretive with his phone.

If he works consecutive night shifts then what boss would keep him at work from 10pm until 3-4pm the following day, knowing he has to be back at work for 10pm that night. That was last week.

He has form for lying, I'm not a paranoid idiot with no cause for concern.

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nomoreclue · 14/11/2019 20:53

Confront him. Tell him outright. I think you’re sleeping with somebody else, what’s going on. If he continues to lie then tell him he has to move out. I dong understand why he’s continuing to pretend when he’s practically rubbing it in your face!

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 20:53

Infact, I've been too quick to believe his excuses.

He doesn't get interrogated about anything, many others would gladly interrogate him after just one fraction of the behaviour he has displayed to me.

Not me, I gave him the benefit of the doubt time and time again until it became glaringly obvious that something, whatever it is, is amiss.

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WizardOfAus · 14/11/2019 20:56

Check his phone. Check emails. Check computer/laptop. Check everything. Could he be booking and using prostitutes? Might explain secretive texts, money issues, overtime, etc.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 21:01

I've just checked his coat pocket to see if his phone is in there to look, unsurprisingly he's taken it to bed again.

I would never have him down as somebody who would see prostitutes but most women who's other halves do it would probably say the same.

I've got no end of things spinning around in my head at the minute. He's seeing his ex and that's why he brought up the baby, maybe he's having an affair with someone from work, he's met somebody from the internet, dating sites. It's driving me to distraction.

I wouldn't even rule out gambling at this stage but I do know he's not on drugs and doesn't drink.

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WizardOfAus · 14/11/2019 21:07

Can you get his phone when he’s asleep?

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 21:09

I doubt it if it's in his pocket, he's due to get up at 9.15 to go back to work so no chance of that happening now. I've been drafting a message to send him when he leaves, I don't want to argue with him anymore in here as our eldest is awake.

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 21:12

When I say pocket I mean trouser pocket. He goes to bed in lounge pyjama bottoms with pockets and that's where he keeps the phone.

Personally I wouldn't want to risk breaking it by rolling onto it in my sleep but then I'm not somebody desperate to hide things.

It's odd in itself that he's so protective of the phone as I've never once snooped and he knows I'm not that way inclined, until tonight.

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WizardOfAus · 14/11/2019 21:15

Good lord. He’s 100% hiding something.

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 14/11/2019 21:21

Who the hell sleeps with their phone in their pyjama pocket? Shock how could that be comfortable?

user764329056 · 14/11/2019 21:36

Sleeping with a phone is hugely suspicious, never heard that before

Maelwaedd · 14/11/2019 21:37

When my DP was having an affair he too was stressed about money and I couldn't work out why. The reality was he had realised that if he left with OW neither he or her earned enough to support them. Most of our assets were solely in my name. Not knowing about the affair I couldn't work out why he was stressed about money when actually together we were OK.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 21:50

I followed him out into the porch as he was leaving and told him i suspect him of an affair and relayed all of the points I raised here like the secrecy with his phone, unusually long working hours, disappearing, wanting, to end things and then backtracking, the money comments, the claim to have been sat in the park all day.

He said "No I'm not" at which point I said "Ok and so what if I were to tell you I want to see your phone right now"

He said "that's fine" and got it out of his pocket, pressed the home button and it was dead, then said "but it's not no battery"

By this point his uber was pulling up so I couldn't stand and argue with him but my ending note was "so what was today really about" and he said "It's just me, being stupid"

I don't know what to think now. He wasn't expecting me to ask to see his phone and didn't hesitate, but then he will have known it was dead and that he couldn't hang around and charge it. He's also had all day to delete anything dodgy.

He has taken the phone charger to work.

His taxi arrived

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 21:52

What a bastard maelwaed, I'm sorry you went through that. Can I ask how things panned out? Did you throw him out or did he leave to be with her in spite of his lack of finances?

Horrible behaviour

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 21:57

The mug that I am, I now feel bad for saying I want to see his phone because I wasn't expecting him to be forthcoming.

But then he must have known it was dead, right? No time to charge it etc as had to get to work.

I'm even more confused now.

This is how I am. I second guess everything.

If there is anything to be seen it'll be gone by the morning now because I've mentioned looking.

Gah Sad

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IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 14/11/2019 22:00

If I was to guess I would say he is at a decision point. His OW has told him he has to leave you and he spent today working it over in his head deciding what he’s going to do. Him saying he was just being stupid suggest he has maybe decided to stay with you and was stupid to cheat/consider leaving you. Either way I would not be satisfied with that answer from him. Sorry OP but he is definitely sitting on something.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 22:01

If everything he has said about being depressed is true and he hasn't been unfaithful then I'm going to feel so ashamed of myself, but posting here has reassured me that even if I'm wrong, I'm not unreasonable for being suspicious.

I'd love for him to exonerate himself and prove he's telling the truth, but there's no real way of him doing that is there.

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CalleighDoodle · 14/11/2019 22:02

Has he always slept with his phone in his pocket?

category12 · 14/11/2019 22:02

Of course he knew his phone was dead.

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 22:03

Yes, I work, I'm not convinced.

If he's being unfaithful I don't want him so he needn't agonize over a decision as I won't play the pick me dance.

I will put up with alot in the name of mental health difficulty as I have been there myself, but I cannot obide a cheat.

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Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 22:04

He hasn't always slept with it in his pocket, but has done so alot.

It has been at the side of the bed on occasions but not since this weird behaviour has been going on.

It is never left about on charge unless he's in the room either.

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StealthMama · 14/11/2019 22:04

Sorry to be the one to ask this, I don't think I've seen it mentioned so far, but is it not possible that a man with Aspergers is struggling to handle the emotions of learning he fathered a stillborn child he knew nothing about?

MaeveDidIt · 14/11/2019 22:05

You should have taken it and charged it, and said thank you.
I wonder what his reaction would have been then.

Winkywoop · 14/11/2019 22:05

How did he book an uber on a dead phone?