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Is this relationship healthy? Help!

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Phoebebebe84 · 02/11/2019 10:48

Hi everyone. This is my first thread and I wanted to share a few things that have been worrying me recently. I met my partner 3 years ago and we recently moved in together 4 months ago. At the start of our relationship everything seemed great. My partner was very caring, funny, romantic and great company. After the first 3 months things started to change. My partner started to have sudden mood swings out of the blue for no obvious reason. He would become annoyed, ignore me or give me short few word answers during conversations. He would refuse to speak about anything if I asked what was wrong. Things would change and get back to normal just as suddenly. We both worked full time and our main opportunity to spend time together was on weekends but he would choose to spend time with his family most weekends saying that he had no choice and was being roped into doing things with them he didn't want to do. When we did spend time together it was great. Eventually we became engaged and arranged to find a place together. He wanted a new 4 bedroom house and spoke about having a family together one day. We both had money for a deposit and have some left for furnishings. I would be putting in twice as much but I didn't mind. If I called in to see him at his and he wasn't expecting it he would become very annoyed because he doesn't like people turning up at his flat without agreeing in advance (same with workmen etc). In February he became very angry on Valentine's and turned over and went to sleep because my Valentine's gifts were not good enough (I bought us a nice valentine's dinner) and neither had my birthday or Christmas gifts which was a surprise to me. He said my thoughtlessness showed I didn't know him and didn't care. He said he couldn't marry me because it would be stressful and he didn't feel I understood him. Things seemed to get back to normal and we were making plans for the future when out of the blue he said that he had been forcing himself to be close to me and be physical with me but it didn't feel natural. We managed to work things through by me promising to try and do more to make the relationship work. Right after we took out the mortgage he quit his job because he didn't like it and the people he was working with. We had already exchanged contracts because it was a new build so since then I have had to cover all of the bills (to protect my credit and not default as much as anything). He has applied for some jobs as far as I know but he hasn't found anything. he's had one interview. I changed my job last year to earn more to help with our mortgage application and pay the bills but I don't earn a lot. I don't have any money after the bills and fuel to go to work. I suffer from scalp psoriasis which has been dormant for years but now I can't afford to buy the shampoo and medication it's come back. I have a cat who is 9 (gift from my grandmother who passed away from cancer not long afterwards) who was supposed to be staying with my mum for a few weeks while I move but my partner now says he doesn't like cats and doesn't want cat on the new furniture or around the house and it would have to live in the utility room. He never said any of this before! He is putting pressure on me to rehome the cat. He has a small dog who is allowed to be on the bed, furniture and roam the house. A week after we moved in I was kicked out of the master bedroom and I now stay in the spare room - he doesn't like sharing a bed and my getting up early for work disturbs him and the lack of sleep makes him crabby. He does cook but we do separate washing, ironing etc. He took the engagement ring back after kicking me out of the spare room but is now acting normally and is talking about weddings and maybe a family in the future. He loses his temper and I can't do anything right unless I do it the 'right' way. If I make tea in the wrong way or use the wrong mug he says I don't respect him or care otherwise I would listen and do things the right way. He doesn't like my family because they are due to move (delay with their build) and when they do I would be due some money for my share of my old family home. He really wants to replace the existing new kitchen with a better one and buy some new furniture for upstairs. All my friends and family are worried about me and my family want me to come home but I'm stuck because I'm financially tied. When he tries to engage in sex I've started making excuses because for the first time I don't feel close to him. I've been on antidepressants for 3 months. Is his behaviour normal relationship stuff or should I be worried?

OP posts:
MollyButton · 03/11/2019 18:33

Read "Living with the Dominator". Also phone Women's Aid. It is textbook.

areyouafraidofthedark · 03/11/2019 18:40

You need to tell someone in real life what's going on OP so you have the strength to end things and one of you move out.

EllenRipley · 03/11/2019 18:46

My heart sank and continued to do so the more I read, OP. Take the consensus that's immediately apparently as a sign that it's time to get out of this relationship, and the advice provided as your guide on why and how to do so.

I think you know that the way you're being treated by this awful man is VERY wrong, but youre so ground down you're completely doubting yourself, and probably still trying to focus on his 'good' points and where your fault lies. There are no good points here, and you're being abused and manipulated.

Be strong and do the right thing for yourself as soon as you can. I would worry that his behaviour might get worse when you try to leave, so gather as much support as you can, and keep looking forward.

Sweetpeach3 · 03/11/2019 18:56

Okay well if you don't listen to your friends or family and DO NOT lIsten to him. Listen to MN. People who have been their and done that

You are beyond fucking good enough. You pay for everything and do everything and he is controlling you manipulating you and bullying you!!!!!!!!
Go get legal advice and try get out of it. If you loose some money then so be it. Go back to your mums with your cat and be happy. I'd rather have nothing then a shit life- Iv been their believe me. It will only get worse and worse !!! Until your mentally broken. Bank broken and then he will be happy as fucking Larry
Don't let him win.
Find your inner bitch and screw him over !!! Don't tell him an get the legal advice. Keep money to the side for yourself. Take your cat home and kick him out the master bedroom one day when he's out and put a lock on it !

You are not a dog!!!!!!!!

Please please please. Don't let him do this to you. You really need find your inner devious bitch. I did and I came better of and he lost! I used be told I'm a fat lazy scruffy bitch and a slag ugly etc everyday. His house is now a total shithole. You could eat your tea of my floor it's that clean haha I used to believe him until I came out of the situation x

NightsOfCabiria · 03/11/2019 18:59

OP, you seem really passive and reluctant to leave or stand up for yourself. Does your username reflect your age? Are you 36 and seeing this as your last chance at marriage and family life? If so, just imagine staying and having children/being pregnant. Now remember what he said about breaking your legs and smashing your face in.

Please confide in your family and get out as soon as possible. Alone is better than dead.

123B · 03/11/2019 20:20

I'm so sorry that you're dealing with this. As said above, I think you know the answer. Please please leave this man, this relationship is not serving you. You deserve so much more. X

Lolapusht · 03/11/2019 20:23

How much cooking, cleaning and housework do you do? I’m guessing probably all of it yet he complains and belittles you. You are paying for the house he lives in, feeding him, paying his bills, cooking and cleaning for him and he still thinks it’s acceptable to criticise what you do. Any sane/non-abusive person would say thank you for what you do. And that’s without the threats of violence, kicking you of your own room and refusing to let you bring your cat into your own home..

The reason you’re not sure if it’s you or not is because he’s manipulated and worn you down so you question everything. He has done this. He has destroyed your self-confidence and you’re self-belief. You will be easier to control if you’re constantly questioning yourself. You take the blame for what he tells you are your failings (and why does he get to tell you what to do? You are not a child yet he seems happy to treat you like one) when he is the one with the failings.

Turn it round the other way. If you’re so awful to live with (and I don’t think for one second that you are!) why doesn’t he leave? He doesn’t need to live with you. You’re not married and don’t have children. If he finds sharing his life with you so terrible he can move out and take his dog with him.

Please speak to someone you trust so they can help you get out of this relationship. He will not get better. You will not be able to change him. You will not be able to change your behaviour to make him happy because he will always find something else to berate you about. That’s how abusive people operate.

I know others have mentioned it, but please take a look at this Freedom Programme

SophieSong · 03/11/2019 20:42

He's massively abusive, he's gaslighting you, he's using you and he will get worse. I can assure you he has no intention of doing anything but sponging off you and making you work like a dog to keep him happy (more than you already are).

This is so far past healthy that I can't believe you even need to ask frankly.

Why on earth do you think you deserve to be stuck with someone who refuses to work or support you, criticises every single thing you do and drains you dry of everything you have?

AloneLonelyLoner · 03/11/2019 20:51

This is some of the worst abuse I've read in a long time. And I say that as a survivor of quite horrific domestic abuse.

No amount of things we say will persuade you, but do yourself a favour and read through your own posts and imagine it in the voice of your best friend.

What would you tell her to do?

Run?

I would.

Get to a solicitor this week. Call first thing in the morning.

crappyday2018 · 03/11/2019 21:06

Assuming you come to your senses and realise you have to get rid of him, these are your options:

  1. Put the house straight on the market for sale
  2. Ask your mortgage provider if you can change to a buy2let and rent the house out
  3. See if you can get your EX off the mortgage and take it on alone
Sadly, because its a new build it will be difficult to sell and you may lose money. I was in the same situation nearly 3 years ago. Our house was only 8 months old when we split and it took over a year to sell. I would sit him down and tell him its over and that you would like HIM to move out as he's not contributing anyway. I doubt he will agree of course. If he won't agree, is it possible for you to live with family for a while? Its a horrible situation to be in but there is always a way out.
Gemma1971 · 03/11/2019 21:46

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Queenoftheashes · 03/11/2019 21:50

Please flee this rat! I cannot believe what I just read.

Wimbledonna · 03/11/2019 21:57

He's a nasty dangerous man.
He will get worse.
You need to leave.

simplekindoflife · 05/11/2019 07:18

"He says living with me is like living with a child because I don't listen when he tells me things or asks me to do things"

Why should you listen to him?! You're not a child, you're a grown woman. Who made him right? Why isn't he doing it your way?

He's massively gaslighting you. You will never 'do things right' because he will say whatever you do is wrong.

You will never be happy with him. He will just keep grinding you down.

Real loving relationships make you feel better and lift you up. Your partner should support and love you. You're living with the enemy here.

Whereispeterrabbit · 05/11/2019 07:54

OP- I'll join everyone else in saying this is utter abuse! Please please for your sanity and happiness leave! It's only going to get worse. Talking from experience

Lozzerbmc · 05/11/2019 09:11

This makes such sad reading. He is a monstrous man and you need to take control of your life. Get some legal advice asap. Have you some friends to help support you? Do not spend any money on improvements to the house! Always protect your money you should have protected your deposit. Put yourself FIRST!!!!!

Phoebebebe84 · 05/11/2019 20:42

Thanks everyone. I've spoken with my family and I can go back anytime at short notice. I want to get some advice about the house and best way to leave safely this week before I go. He lost it with me over not respecting him because I didn't follow his advice again and was annoyed when I said the cat wasn't coming to the house because it wouldn't be fair on the cat to be locked up in the utility room. I don't trust him completely with the cat anymore. He's been in a foul mood since last night because I made a cake and tea but the custard I made wasn't sweet enough for him. He chucked the bowl next to the sofa and told me to eat it if I thought it was edible. He yelled about me being the way and always in the same room because I was doing the washing and he stormed off to bed. He's still angry with me. I don't think he's happy that I didn't arrange much for bonfire night. I've awake since 5 and worked until 5:00pm before a long drive home. I did try to do my best but it's never enough. I think he resents me working because he feelsI I put work before him. I think he wishes he was working and resents depending on me financially but he chose to quit his job right after we got the mortgage. He gets angry and tearful if I don't cuddle him on the sofa or if I don't feel like sex. He thinks I'm looking for or have someone else but it isn't true. It's just his insecurities. I'm not like that.

OP posts:
Mollpop · 05/11/2019 21:13

I want to get some advice about the house and best way to leave safely this week before I go
This is brilliant. It sounds like you've made your mind up to leave. It'll be such a relief to be free from constant criticism and bring belittled all the time. I'm so glad that your family is welcoming you back. Go and be with people who genuinely care about you. I'm so proud of you even though I don't know you. Good luck and stay strong

AngusThermopyle · 05/11/2019 21:17

Well done for acknowledging how awful he is and taking steps to freedom. You’re doing the right thing.
And remember, it doesn’t matter what he thinks or says or tries to control, what actually matters is how you let it affect you and retaining control of how you respond. It will be worth it. You can do it.

simplekindoflife · 05/11/2019 23:05

He gets angry and tearful if I don't cuddle him on the sofa or if I don't feel like sex.

He gets worse with every post, OP. This is awful...

Definitely a good start talking to your family, now get your ducks in a row. Get some emotional and legal advice.

EKGEMS · 05/11/2019 23:15

Jesus wept-pack your damn suitcase and get the fuck out! This man is a mean,nasty,lazy bully who is abusing you. Do you realize you're crucifying yourself because he's hypercritical of you? He didn't like the pudding? Too damn bad. Cook it yourself you mother fucker! Why the hell are YOU cooking? Why not his lazy ass who is out of work? Why are you cleaning? So what you've financially sunk your money into a mortgage! Walk away-scratch that run the fuck away!

poppet31 · 05/11/2019 23:39

Reading this thread makes me feel sick OP. I am so worried for you. Please please go and see a solicitor as soon as you can and go and stay with family. I don't think you are safe staying there alone with him.

Icanflyhigh · 05/11/2019 23:53

Not healthy at all. He is using you. Find a way out and leave him as soon as you can.

bionicnemonic · 06/11/2019 07:05

Could you book a day off work, visit Citizens Advice (or could family do some research for you) to establish legal position with regaining the money you have invested or buying him out.

MellowMelly · 06/11/2019 07:29

Can’t believe what I’ve just read. I’ve never read a post on here that has made me feel as sick as reading yours has.

Everyone that has responded is right. He is abusive. Very abusive. You said you don’t even trust him round your cat. You’re right not too. If he is capable of possibly hurting a cat (and I believe he is) then he is capable of hurting you. I found this out the hard way.

You’ve got to get out or get him out.