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Getting my DH back

449 replies

wXyZ123 · 01/11/2019 12:21

I have been with my DH for over 30 years, he has left me, I don’t think he is happy, I would like him to come back and I am frightened of being alone, this is my story, please help me.

As soon as I met my in-laws I felt intimidated by them. DH shared too much information with them, was too influenced by them, put them first and became melancholy after he saw them. I asked him not to see them, to keep away for as long as it took for things to improve. We had occasional contact which always upset us both.

After about 5 years we married, my parents were unwell and could not attend, I did not want DH’s family there.

After our children were born we saw DH’s sister, we all seemed to get on ok but the relationship fizzled out, DH says that was because there was always an “elephant in the room” – the broken relationship with his parents who even now I have only allowed to see our 18 year old children twice.

I was frustrated that rather than build a social life for us or to recognise the efforts I had made with his sister, DH seemed only to focus on what he did not have with his parents and sister.

Nine years ago, I discovered DH was seeing his parents and contacting his sister behind my back, I gave him an “us or them” ultimatum. Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility. Our already minimal sex life dropped to non-existent.

DH tried to broker a thaw in relationships, but all that happened was that he and I rowed, he never saw how hurt I was by his parent’s attitude to me , how frightened I was, only how we had wronged them and how he felt

Three years ago DH walked out, leaving me alone with our children. I let him have space but told him I could not cope unless there was a chance of reconciliation. He said there was, we met a few times, he said he felt he should return but did not want to.

After a year he seemed to want to return, but confessed to an affair with a former girlfriend I was devastated. DH and his parents justified his behaviour suggesting I was at least partly culpable. I wanted DH to be contrite and to break all contact with OW . DH wanted me to make returning appealing to him, to promise not to keep him from his parents and sister. Meanwhile OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me. As a result of the police threat and learning of the affair our children don’t want to see DH till the OW is out of the picture.

Now DH tells me that the guilt he feels at having only seen our children once in 3 years (and not at all since he confessed to his affair), at leaving me alone to do everything, at the sorrow he has inflicted, makes him want to return but that he loves OW.

I think DH is depressed and unhappy, that he should leave OW and then try to rebuild a life with me and our children. DH says he wishes he could; rewind time, had handled our differences better and had not got into the position he has.

How can I resolve this? I want the best for me, for DH and our children. When I tell DH how I blame OW he defends her, says its not her fault and that she was his life raft in time of need, that he would like us all (his parents, sister and OW) to be friends – I tell him that is cloud cuckoo land which seems to drive him back to OW

What should I do?

OP posts:
KindnessCrusader · 02/11/2019 13:28

@boringornot me too, could be written by mine! What really struck me was the part where she told him that everyone she recounted the story to agrees he's in the wrong. That used to upset me so much as a child. Basically everyone agreeing I was a bad person. Now as an adult with a lot of therapy under my belt I can see that of COURSE everyone agreed I was a difficult child-she was telling a story with herself as the heroine, none of it true!

Welltroddenpath · 02/11/2019 13:28

Where was your parents and family in this in the last 30 years? Have they supported you and your children?

Have you just asked him in plain simple language if he wants to come back into a marital relation ship with you?

Welltroddenpath · 02/11/2019 13:34

I had a extremely toxic mother. I choose not to follow her path but it damages you deeply. My sis is NC with my mum.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 02/11/2019 13:34

Even if she had, he sounds like he's too worn down to give a straight no as an answer. He's been treading on eggshells for 30 years.

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Butterfly44 · 02/11/2019 13:42

I haven't read all the comments before me but how can you be that controlling? How would you feel when your child married and their spouse told them not to see you. You have one set of parents and assuming upbringing and nurture was there the bond will always be there. How sad the children did not have a relationship with their paternal grandparents and aunt....because of what you imposed. I'm in your husband's side here. It sounds like you are still being controlling with the children and influencing their decision. He has left you, there is someone else. Leave it at that and move on. Let him be happy. You will be to one day. If you can't accept it seek counselling...if the hundreds of comments here who are living in family relationships can't convince you...

PlacidPenelope · 02/11/2019 13:45

@Sweetpeach3, I am sorry you suffered an abusive relationship and I hope this thread is not causing you distress. In a macabre way it is a fascinating insight but the tragedy is someone, like you once were, is on the receiving end of it. I am glad you are free and have a brighter, better, abuse free future ahead of you, I so hope the OP's husband is able to do the same.

Sweetpeach3 · 02/11/2019 13:49

It's helped close some doors knowing he may not of been pure evil and a bully purposely like I first though and he may need some serious help like op clearly does in regards to being in denial about being an abuser
But this aside iv found it extremely interesting hearing her side to the story and I hope the DH can get away like I did and move on. Not everyone has that luck!

Looneytune253 · 02/11/2019 13:51

I'm going to point this out very plainly for you OP:

He LEFT you after several year of controlling and emotionally abusive behaviour from you!!

He made a new life with a new girlfriend (not an affair or an OW) and has been happy with her for some time. His family are happy with his choices as you and them didn't really get on.

He doesn't really want to come home but he's polite when you are messaging even when you turn nasty and just want to rehash the past.

PLEASE listen to the others on this post and get help and move on from him. Seriously you need some serious psychiatric help. You don't seem to understand what others are saying to you about your own behaviour

selfishcrab · 02/11/2019 13:59

You do need help, you are no victim you are controlling and abusive. If you can't get help for yourself do it for your children as you will loose them as soon as they are old enough to go ... although you wont agree because you just wont see it!
The poor man does not want to come back but he's scared and conditioned and probably terribly worried of what you will do to his children, family or partner.
He has been gone 3 years, 3 YEARS not weeks or months years, if he wanted to be with you he would, he's placating you through fear.
You need to stop with the harassment, threats etc and stop with the health updates to him, your healthis not his concern it's been 3 BLOODY YEARS!
Abusive, controlling and you I would say are his depression because I bet he doesn't have it!

Beveren · 02/11/2019 14:02

OP, for your own sake accept that he doesn't want to come back and stop wasting time sending these endless texts to him. Concentrate on getting on with your life, and for the love of God keep your children completely out of this and let them have a relationship with their father free of any concerns about you.

AFairlyHardAvocado · 02/11/2019 14:17

@Sweetpeach3 ThanksThanksThanks

WithTheTide · 02/11/2019 14:29

OP this thread makes really difficult reading. As adults we need to take responsibility for our actions and reactions. It helps to be reflective and to understand our feelings (I like the analogy “nothing is good or bad but thinking makes it so”). It appears that the way you have been thinking about your situation over the years has been damaging to everyone and to your health. Focusing on blame and what we perceive others are doing to us is toxic. Please think about your children and the messages you are giving them about relationships/communication and responsibility. Let your marriage go, get focused help, smell the roses, delight in your children and live the rest of your life. Bitterness and regret are debilitating. Is this how you want to spend your time?

willieversleep · 02/11/2019 14:39

I have read this all and really hope this is made up. This is the lives of children and others being damaged for years if it is real. Desperately sad.

Also I do not understand half those text messages. So hard to read

ChorleyFMcominginyourears · 02/11/2019 14:49

The word narcissist gets banded around on here too easy, but I'm sorry OP you ARE a narcissist!! I dont think one person on this thread has agreed with you yet you are STILL playing the victim when in fact your husband and children are the victims and will continue to be until you address the fact that you are a narcissist and get help, which of course you will never do because you will forever be blind to what you really are. I would say this thread is completely unbelievable like others are but it's not is it? It's completely true, they're just seeing what an actual narcissist is really like and let me tell you it doesnt make for pleasant reading!

Otavis · 02/11/2019 14:56

OP, your continual self-dramatising texts about your illness and the fact that you blame him for your cancer, your loneliness, your mentions of long dark walks in the cold and wet etc are making him worried and guilty — that’s all. He isn’t ever coming back. He isn’t having an affair, he’s moved on and formed a new relationship in which he is happy, because it doesn’t set up the horrifically toxic set of dynamics you did when you were married to him. You are just mining his emails for any hint of unhappiness because you see it as an indication he made a mistake, is unhappy with his current partner, and will return to you — but you’re living in a fantasy world.

Get help, accept he’s moved on, stop attacking his partner, who, as far as I can gather has done nothing wrong (the suggestion of coercive control doesn’t in fact sound at all unlikely), and stop poisoning your young adult children’s minds against their father and paternal grandparents because you were afraid of them 30 years ago!

Otavis · 02/11/2019 15:05

I agree actually, @ChorleyFMcominginyourears. I think armchair diagnoses of ‘narcissism’ are nonsensically frequent on here, but this thread is a textbook example. The OP is so involved in her own status as the heroine/victim of her own inner drama, the almost 400 posts pointing out that another reading of the facts as she presents them is that she’s victimised her husband for decades and that his texts indicate he’s moved on, bar moments of Stockholm Syndrome, are completely ignored.

Guavaf1sh · 02/11/2019 15:07

If OP is real then she’s a really horrible manipulative bully and should leave her poor depressed husband alone.

But I can’t believe she is real though

SilverySurfer · 02/11/2019 15:26

I'm fascinated and horrified in equal measure. This is the first thread in all my years on MN that is posted by the abuser/controller, if it's real.

30 years is longer than a life sentence and the DH must be walking on air, except as would be expected he feels a bit guilty and the OP plays on that guilt. I hope he is not stupid enough to return to you.

In none of your posts, OP, have you given a hint of understanding what people have been telling you so I'm not sure what you want from this thread. I predict your DH will never return to you - let's face it he would have to be completely bonkers to do so. I assume you treat your children the same way and the sooner they spread their wings the better.

Anotherlongdrive · 02/11/2019 15:35

Who the hell texts the man who left them 3 years ago to tell then they had to walk home with the shopping and that ita so sad to come home to an empty house?

Cant imagine texting my exh that.

dimdarkashian · 02/11/2019 15:35

This is the most MENTAL thread i have ever read. This is a troll surely?!

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 02/11/2019 15:39

If it's a troll, it's very realistic in many ways. The narcissist that I know does view people like this. And she does send long ranting accusatory emails, expecting nothing but compliance in return.

However, many narcissists are better at putting on an acceptable mask and telling a plausible story than the OP is, that's why they are good at manipulation.

TowelNumber42 · 02/11/2019 15:41

Another my mum and some other family members would do exactly that. It is exactly how they think and act. I hope the ex or the "OW" joins MN. I hope the adult children go live with their dad asap.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 02/11/2019 15:43

It might best not to refer to the OP's ex's new partner as 'the OW'. It just feeds the victimhood and delusion.

He is her ex, not her 'dh', and has been for 3 years. He has an established partner, this is not an 'affair'.

Onthebrink87 · 02/11/2019 15:51

Whilst I acknowledge that what your feeling is very real, you seem to be very unwell and have the potential to be rather dangerous. You have abused your husband for decades and suggesting he was in anyway shape or form responsible for your cancer is despicable. It's is malicious, controlling and manipulative to boot. If roles were reversed, your husband would likely be risk assessed and marked up as high risk from you. The best thing your husband could do would be to speak with the police because no court would hesitate for a second to slap you with a restraining order at the very least. You need to leave that poor man alone. You need to seek medical advice and get yourself together. You will end up with a criminal record for your behaviours and as a woman who has suffered terribly at the hands of an abusive man, I can honestly say it is well deserved. I have been punched, kicked, spat at and sexually abused and can hold my hands up and say the prolonged emotional abuse has taken the longest to recover from. You said the replies to your op made you feel shame. Take that shame and understand that is exactly how you should feel.

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