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Getting my DH back

449 replies

wXyZ123 · 01/11/2019 12:21

I have been with my DH for over 30 years, he has left me, I don’t think he is happy, I would like him to come back and I am frightened of being alone, this is my story, please help me.

As soon as I met my in-laws I felt intimidated by them. DH shared too much information with them, was too influenced by them, put them first and became melancholy after he saw them. I asked him not to see them, to keep away for as long as it took for things to improve. We had occasional contact which always upset us both.

After about 5 years we married, my parents were unwell and could not attend, I did not want DH’s family there.

After our children were born we saw DH’s sister, we all seemed to get on ok but the relationship fizzled out, DH says that was because there was always an “elephant in the room” – the broken relationship with his parents who even now I have only allowed to see our 18 year old children twice.

I was frustrated that rather than build a social life for us or to recognise the efforts I had made with his sister, DH seemed only to focus on what he did not have with his parents and sister.

Nine years ago, I discovered DH was seeing his parents and contacting his sister behind my back, I gave him an “us or them” ultimatum. Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility. Our already minimal sex life dropped to non-existent.

DH tried to broker a thaw in relationships, but all that happened was that he and I rowed, he never saw how hurt I was by his parent’s attitude to me , how frightened I was, only how we had wronged them and how he felt

Three years ago DH walked out, leaving me alone with our children. I let him have space but told him I could not cope unless there was a chance of reconciliation. He said there was, we met a few times, he said he felt he should return but did not want to.

After a year he seemed to want to return, but confessed to an affair with a former girlfriend I was devastated. DH and his parents justified his behaviour suggesting I was at least partly culpable. I wanted DH to be contrite and to break all contact with OW . DH wanted me to make returning appealing to him, to promise not to keep him from his parents and sister. Meanwhile OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me. As a result of the police threat and learning of the affair our children don’t want to see DH till the OW is out of the picture.

Now DH tells me that the guilt he feels at having only seen our children once in 3 years (and not at all since he confessed to his affair), at leaving me alone to do everything, at the sorrow he has inflicted, makes him want to return but that he loves OW.

I think DH is depressed and unhappy, that he should leave OW and then try to rebuild a life with me and our children. DH says he wishes he could; rewind time, had handled our differences better and had not got into the position he has.

How can I resolve this? I want the best for me, for DH and our children. When I tell DH how I blame OW he defends her, says its not her fault and that she was his life raft in time of need, that he would like us all (his parents, sister and OW) to be friends – I tell him that is cloud cuckoo land which seems to drive him back to OW

What should I do?

OP posts:
Reallynowdear · 02/11/2019 11:22

Please get some professional help OP, your behaviour is worrying.

amiapropermum · 02/11/2019 11:23

I see my self as much or more abused as abusing

Abused by whom?? By DH's parents for making a couple of comments you didn't like THREE DECADES ago? By his partner for reporting you for harassment? If you didn't harass her there would have been no report to the police.

YOU are the abuser and you've mistreated all these people to preserve your own self narrative as the injured party. I imagine it'll be horrifying to you if you ever start to look behind your own mask but get professional psychiatric help. At the very least leave DH and his family alone. They've suffered enough at your hands

myrtleWilson · 02/11/2019 11:25

quelle suprise..... the arm pit lump has gone down now. Always a medical emergency with narcs isn't it Hmm

Sakura7 · 02/11/2019 11:28

I feel so sorry for the poor children. It's really fucking hard to get over such a messed up childhood and make good, healthy decisions when your mother was such an appalling role model.

VanGoghsDog · 02/11/2019 11:35

God, leave the poor guy alone. Stop talking over all this nonsense. Focus on your kids.

Worlds0kayestmum · 02/11/2019 11:38

Bloody hell Shock

MidnightBlue28 · 02/11/2019 11:58

When DH said he wanted to come back I contacted OW by text asking her to confirm the affair was over. She replied not to confirm that, but threatening that if I contacted her again she would go to the police. I took this to be an idle threat and over the following 18 months sent occasional texts and one letter, some describing her as an adulterous whore – I know that was unwise, but was shocked to get a formal letter from the police telling me to desist. As a woman scorned I think I have been restrained.

But her just blocking your number wouldn’t have worked, would it? You took her message telling you to leave her alone as an idle threat and still contacted her... going as far as writing her a letter. You had to keep needling away at her. You were abusive. You had her address. I don’t blame her at all for the actions she took.

Chattybum · 02/11/2019 11:59

The way you manipulate and exaggerate your issues has this poor man wriggling like a worm on a hook. I'm sorry OP but you are not the abused or the victim, YOU are the abuser and the bully. I hope karma bites you hard on the arse. I can't stomach any more of this thread, you are one sick human I'm afraid.

Footle · 02/11/2019 12:05

Don't focus on your kids. They've had enough of that.

AFairlyHardAvocado · 02/11/2019 12:07

He doesn't want to come back.

He wants to move on.

But you are essentially giving him an ultimatum where his two options are:

1- get back together, grovel and allow you to punish him for what you view as his bad behaviour in order to have a relationship with HIS own children

2- not get back together, knowing you will still punish him for what you view as his bad behaviour and attempt to hold HIS own children to ransom in the process

Neither is particularly appealing is it? And neither option puts your children first.

I would suggest a third option - not get back together but find a way of being able to communicate as needed (so only about the children really) without descending into utter vitriol and manipulation

But you don't want that, you want to be seen as a victim while you continue to bully anyone in your life who doesn't behave exactly how you want or bend to your will without question.

You are toxic and cruel. Describing your children in the way you did, blaming him for your cancer, refusing to communicate in any other way that manipulation and guilt tripping.

Why on earth did you start this thread when you are totally unwilling to take on board anyone else's thoughts?

People have asked questions, suggested coping mechanisms, explained other viewpoints and all you do is copy and paste more conversations between you and him.

It's worrying you think that each update you post reinforces your point of view, when in fact all it does is reinforce that you are manipulative, selfish and cruel.

Kids (especially adult kids) almost always see their parents for who they are in the end. They will have witnessed your manipulative behaviour and bitterness.

You couldn't push them away from you and towards their father any more if you tried.

You need therapy or you will spend the rest of your life bitter, angry and eventually alone as you have pushed everyone away.

But it'll still be everyone else's fault in your mind.

strawberry2017 · 02/11/2019 12:10

You scare me OP, you are ignoring everything anyone says. Yes some have been blunt but I can't say I blame them.
You are making everyone around you miserable. Including yourself. Let him be happy. Let him move on with his life and let yourself seek the help you need. One day you too could be happy but it won't be with this man.

gamerchick · 02/11/2019 12:11

These types of people will never be happy. Always in victim mode and can't ever self reflect. You're wasting your time if it's for real.

JK1773 · 02/11/2019 12:14

OP your level of manipulation is truly chilling. You are very unwell. Leave this poor man alone. He’s scared of you. He does not want to reconcile with you. Your behaviour is criminal

gamerchick · 02/11/2019 12:15

It's been quite interesting to see inside the mind of someone abusive who can't see it though. Explains why I struggled to get rid of my ex so much

TacoLover · 02/11/2019 12:22

quelle suprise..... the arm pit lump has gone down now. Always a medical emergency with narcs isn't it

Quite

ChicCroissant · 02/11/2019 12:24

Seek help for yourself, OP. The way you drag other people into it with your letters is extremely worrying.

Welltroddenpath · 02/11/2019 12:39

Ok wow I thought this would have been deleted as it seemed to far fetched.

If this isn’t a wind up you need to see your gp and ask for therapy. You have some unrealistic standards of people. I worry that any possible dial could never meet your exacting standards and will give your sons a ultimatum of the same, your way or no way. You risk being extremely lonely if you push your sons away and you need help now, before you do the same to them.

Thing in, no one owns anyone. No one can control others behaviour or feelings to this extent.

Your dp would with you if he wanted to be. Your offering him insults and threats, ow is offering nicer things. Do you genuinely appear to be the more appealing option?

I feel sad for your kids. Please seek help for them as right now they are your only options left to escape being alone.

insanepizza · 02/11/2019 12:47

You came on here asking for advice and have 100% ignored it.Confused

MrMeSeeks · 02/11/2019 13:10

Op these further texts do not help your case, you are the bully.
You need help. Let your ex go. He doesn't want you back, get help for the sake of your kids.

PlacidPenelope · 02/11/2019 13:11

It's been quite interesting to see inside the mind of someone abusive who can't see it though.

It has indeed been a lesson in how they operate and an insight into a truly warped mind and behaviours.

Control of others by any means possible, constantly wearing down resistance, dripping poison at every available opportunity, manipulation, bullying, claiming victim hood, refusal to accept any responsibility, denying the true victim of any support and removing support networks for that person, I could go on this OP ticks all the boxes of a stone cold abuser.

As another pp said, OP, even if your husband's sister or new partner had blocked you on their phones you would have merely found another way to harass them, which you did by sending a letter to the new woman and you would NOT have stopped without the Police intervention. You feel you have a right to bully and dictate to others how they should behave, what they should do and who they should have a relationship with. You have tried to enforce this control on people you have no relationship with, you have denied your husband and children a relationship with grandparents, parents, aunt and sister. You are so manipulative and controlling it is truly frightening, you have dismissed any one else's struggles with illness yet expect everyone to fall over themselves when you are ill, you used your illness to exert further control and you are now using a possible recurrence to guilt trip your husband so he acquiesces to your demands and returns to your sphere of influence and receives due punishment for having strayed out of it. Hideous.

OP, you refuse to engage with any of the points made by posters, you just continue to try and defend the indefensible.

Sweetpeach3 · 02/11/2019 13:18

His sister has threatened legal action if you contact her again- I don't blame her you really are delusional

The ow hasn't done anything against you and is apparently willing to let him stay at yours every other weekend to keep YOU happy

dEXh doesn't seem he wants to get back he's clearly moved on and your the one making him depressed constantly mithering him and emailing about autum walks you miss with him blah blah it's very sad considering it's been so long. Get over it now it's long done but he does seem he cares. But He's probably scared what your going to do as you seem very unstable and needy of his attention and would probably go to stupid lengths to get it that's why he cares as it will impact your children more then what you've already done to them in regards to his family (I think)

People have sided with him because the more you say the more unpleasant, crazy, and controlling you are coming across as

You really need to get help.
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You are an abuser !*
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Cordial11 · 02/11/2019 13:20

You sound like my SIL in 30 years time as she has successfully isolated BIL. Sad .

Sweetpeach3 · 02/11/2019 13:22

@PlacidPenelope it is very interesting to see how their minds work I totally agree and your right about it all. Iv just left an abusive relationship and he's now a 5 year restraining order and he did exactly this to me cutting me off from family and that was the main argument in court. Then obviosuly physical but the mental abuse is by far the worst!!! Cut and broozes go but the abuse is like constant torture !
He never seen anything he did was wrong - like op and I'm totally amazed to how she is been and her mind sett
Doesn't excuse anything any abuser does but I kind of get how delusional they must of be now and it isn't just an act sometimes

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 02/11/2019 13:22

Both your ex's sister and his new partner reported your harassment to the police.... is that right? And the police took them seriously enough to warn you off.

But they're both out of order in your view? You describe it an as 'unprovoked attack' on the part of his new partner.

Seriously, try to think about it a little bit objectively.

Nofunkingworriesmate · 02/11/2019 13:26

He should run far away from you you are controlling and make / twist things , no way would an oncologist blame your husband for your cancer!
You should not have forced him to stop seeing his family

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