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Getting my DH back

449 replies

wXyZ123 · 01/11/2019 12:21

I have been with my DH for over 30 years, he has left me, I don’t think he is happy, I would like him to come back and I am frightened of being alone, this is my story, please help me.

As soon as I met my in-laws I felt intimidated by them. DH shared too much information with them, was too influenced by them, put them first and became melancholy after he saw them. I asked him not to see them, to keep away for as long as it took for things to improve. We had occasional contact which always upset us both.

After about 5 years we married, my parents were unwell and could not attend, I did not want DH’s family there.

After our children were born we saw DH’s sister, we all seemed to get on ok but the relationship fizzled out, DH says that was because there was always an “elephant in the room” – the broken relationship with his parents who even now I have only allowed to see our 18 year old children twice.

I was frustrated that rather than build a social life for us or to recognise the efforts I had made with his sister, DH seemed only to focus on what he did not have with his parents and sister.

Nine years ago, I discovered DH was seeing his parents and contacting his sister behind my back, I gave him an “us or them” ultimatum. Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility. Our already minimal sex life dropped to non-existent.

DH tried to broker a thaw in relationships, but all that happened was that he and I rowed, he never saw how hurt I was by his parent’s attitude to me , how frightened I was, only how we had wronged them and how he felt

Three years ago DH walked out, leaving me alone with our children. I let him have space but told him I could not cope unless there was a chance of reconciliation. He said there was, we met a few times, he said he felt he should return but did not want to.

After a year he seemed to want to return, but confessed to an affair with a former girlfriend I was devastated. DH and his parents justified his behaviour suggesting I was at least partly culpable. I wanted DH to be contrite and to break all contact with OW . DH wanted me to make returning appealing to him, to promise not to keep him from his parents and sister. Meanwhile OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me. As a result of the police threat and learning of the affair our children don’t want to see DH till the OW is out of the picture.

Now DH tells me that the guilt he feels at having only seen our children once in 3 years (and not at all since he confessed to his affair), at leaving me alone to do everything, at the sorrow he has inflicted, makes him want to return but that he loves OW.

I think DH is depressed and unhappy, that he should leave OW and then try to rebuild a life with me and our children. DH says he wishes he could; rewind time, had handled our differences better and had not got into the position he has.

How can I resolve this? I want the best for me, for DH and our children. When I tell DH how I blame OW he defends her, says its not her fault and that she was his life raft in time of need, that he would like us all (his parents, sister and OW) to be friends – I tell him that is cloud cuckoo land which seems to drive him back to OW

What should I do?

OP posts:
funnylittlefloozie · 02/11/2019 07:57

This is one of the most fascinating and chilling threads i have ever read on here. Its not chilling like those awful real-time abuse threads. But its amazing to watch the thought process and mental justifications of a very ill person unfold in front of you. Every move the DH makes is interpreted as "he wants to come back to me but THEY wont let him". You can easily see how this thought process leads, in the worst case, to family annihilation, because the abuser CANNOT see how the family can function without them.

Incidentally, OP, were you drinking last night? The tone of your posts is different today.

Techway · 02/11/2019 07:58

i wish I could somehow get him to have the courage to at least leave OW

This is controlling, you can't make him do anything and your texts are manipulative.
You don't seem to have empathy for your husband whereas he displays it towards you.

Many, many people don't get on with their in laws but it never was your role to stop your husband from seeing them. You should never have intimated or frightened his family.

Can you accept at least one of these points?

If you want your husband back you need to change your mindset and get into counselling for controlling behaviours.

How was your childhood?

Otavis · 02/11/2019 08:06

I’m kind of warming to a man who uses ‘ameliorative’ in his text messages.

Apolloanddaphne · 02/11/2019 08:10

Blimey. This is one of the strangest threads I have ever read. OP you need to move on and accept he isn't coming back. You need to go and get help pronto.

insanepizza · 02/11/2019 08:15

Beyond all the nonsense about your husband I cannot believe you spoke about your children like that.

I think being lonely and scared is what you've created. You're now trying to get the sympathy vote but you won't get any because you are playing the victim.

START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS. And the problems are all created by you. If you had accepted that he needed a relationship with his family there would be no need for secrets. I really can't bear my FIL but I get on with it for my husband's sake. That's life, we're adaptable, kind, loving and supportive in our relationships. You are none of these, not even to your children. .

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 02/11/2019 08:18

You really, really need to seek therapy, and cut all contact with him. He's three years into a new relationship, he isn't coming back. Get a divorce sorted.

You children are adults, and should be able to have the level of contact with each of you that they choose. At their age you don't need to have any role in arranging it, and it's best that you don't tbh. Your ex can contact them but it shouldn't be through you.

Especially, lose this idea that contact between your ex and your adult kids is somehow going to influence him to get back together with you.

After some therapy, then have a think about how you want the rest of your life to be.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 02/11/2019 08:24

Cancer 9 years ago in latest post. But earlier you said you said you blamed him for the stress causing it due to OW. But that was 3 years ago.

To be fair to her, the OP said the stress was due to him seeing his parents in secret, didn't she?

I don't think this is made up. I think the OP genuinely believes that she is the victim here and that her ex has done badly by her. I have a family member like this, and the behaviours are very familiar.

elmosducks · 02/11/2019 08:33

Wowzers. Bonkers thread.

OP, you will end up bitter and alone. You are well on your way. Next your children will all go LC or NC.

Counseling is not the answer, you actually need psychiatric treatment.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 02/11/2019 08:39

I cannot believe you spoke about your children like that.

I can. Narcissists don't see their children as human beings with feelings. They see them as possessions, to be controlled and used to manipulate others if necessary. If they start to try to break the bonds of control, they are viewed as the narcissist's enemies and often accused of victimising the narcissist.

MiddleClassProblem · 02/11/2019 08:44

He wants to come back because you have manipulated him so much over 3 decades that he does not think clearly.

Please look at what you’ve said and the language you’ve used. Think about how that impacts someone.

Maybe show your friends this thread and ask for their honest opinion. This very much feels like a good invite to the whole story and I’m sure in the past they only hear bits at the time along with wanting to support you, it’s bias.

You are not the victim. How many strangers have come here to tell you that?

user1498572889 · 02/11/2019 08:47

You think the OW is unhinged, you make yourself sound like a unhinged control freak. Let him and OW get on with their lives and try to make a life for yourself 30 years is a long time to waste on someone who obviously doesn’t want you.

MrMeSeeks · 02/11/2019 08:50

Im sorry you’re hurting, losing a loved one hurts, but you are not the abused one.
Reading these replies i know must be hard, but PLEASE get some help.
You cannot treat a person this way ( certainly not someone you claim to love).
You’ve destroyed him and his relationship with his kids.
Your texts are manipulative, look at his replies.
He did NOT give you cancer, i’d have turned my back the second you said that.
You need help to build healthy relationships in the future. By hurting his relationships with his kids, you’re only hurting them.
Let your ex husband move on.
You have a chance to find someone else, but only if you get that help, If not you will never be happy.
I wish you luck op.

VanGoghsDog · 02/11/2019 09:16

he must really want to come back

Nope.

comfysocks8516 · 02/11/2019 09:20

I can’t believe you stopped him going to his uncles funeral. Poor man

AFairlyHardAvocado · 02/11/2019 09:22

God the way you've described your own kids is so vitriolic and nasty. I'd be devastated if I heard either of my parents describing me in your words.

You honestly don't think their challenges might be down to both of you not just your ex husband?

Absolutely poisonous.

AllInTentsAndPorpoises · 02/11/2019 09:40

Either DH wants to come back or he is stringing me along: witness this exchange over the last week:

I've read every word of this long text exchange. I see the total opposite to what I have quoted above. I read it as a man who is trying deperately to calm someone who is behaving in a very chilling way. It's obvious from these texts he has no intention of coming back. He wants to be free from you but you just won't let him go. He is probably terrified that you will do something stupid if he doesn't keep replying.

You really need to stop!

EnglishRose13 · 02/11/2019 09:45

Leave him alone now. You need to let go and move on. This really isn't healthy.

stopwining · 02/11/2019 09:49

I agree 100% with @AllInTentsAndPorpoises

What I see is a man who has learned all about human behaviour, understands that you are manipulative and an abuser and he is trying to keep you at arms length.

When he says if he returns to your home he fears he will never leave, you are thinking that this means he wants to make a go of things as a couple. I actually think he means that he knows he will fall into your trap again!!!

Your messages to him and the whole thing is all kinds of wrong, I genuinely hope this is not real.

Whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 02/11/2019 09:57

I hope you all rot in hell for what you have done to your children ( one under achieving academically, aggressive , desperate for sex probably to feel wanted, the other addicted to gaming and the gym ) and me stress induced ( yes I know you all laugh at that funny I don’t ) cancer.

OP, you are not fit to be the care-giving parent of your kids.
They will become so damaged by you (probably already are) and likely struggle to have healthy relationships of their own.
Put them first and ensure that someone more fit is looking after them. Then get yourself into therapy.
I can't believe what I've just read to be honest.

Quartz2208 · 02/11/2019 10:03

so you do see yourself as being somewhat abusive?

The cancer thing I think says it all. 9 years ago there were studies that linked breast cancer with stress. That is what you were told and presumably to minimise stress. You then took that to mean he had said his deceit was a contributory factor. That is how you change things

MonsterMashedSpud · 02/11/2019 10:03

Op are you Miss Haversham?

MonsterMashedSpud · 02/11/2019 10:05

Havisham

Clutterbugsmum · 02/11/2019 10:07

My god OP I really hope that this is made up. If not then YOU need serious help.

YOU have successfully ruin YOUR husbands relationships with his family and his children.

Reading your posts I wouldn't not have threaten YOU with legal action I would have done it, to stop you as you are very dangerous in your thinking.

YOU have successfully ruined your children's lives. I really hope they break away from you and block all contact so they can live a happy life because if you continue in their lives like you have with their dad then you are going to cause them even more harm then you are now.

pemberlyshades · 02/11/2019 10:19

The OP's posts read like the memoirs of a time travelling narcissist from circa the 1800's.

Op- you are abusive. You a narcissistic and a perpetual victim. Get yourself some professional help.

funnylittlefloozie · 02/11/2019 10:32

Possibly Miss Havisham, but more like the dark side of Eleanor Oliphant. Stilted and old-fashioned language (30 years ago, the OP's FIL called her "quaint"), dated and weirdly formalised attitudes and behaviour, total unawareness of her own oddity... this is how Eleanor could have gone, but it wouldnt have made such an endearing story.

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