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Getting my DH back

449 replies

wXyZ123 · 01/11/2019 12:21

I have been with my DH for over 30 years, he has left me, I don’t think he is happy, I would like him to come back and I am frightened of being alone, this is my story, please help me.

As soon as I met my in-laws I felt intimidated by them. DH shared too much information with them, was too influenced by them, put them first and became melancholy after he saw them. I asked him not to see them, to keep away for as long as it took for things to improve. We had occasional contact which always upset us both.

After about 5 years we married, my parents were unwell and could not attend, I did not want DH’s family there.

After our children were born we saw DH’s sister, we all seemed to get on ok but the relationship fizzled out, DH says that was because there was always an “elephant in the room” – the broken relationship with his parents who even now I have only allowed to see our 18 year old children twice.

I was frustrated that rather than build a social life for us or to recognise the efforts I had made with his sister, DH seemed only to focus on what he did not have with his parents and sister.

Nine years ago, I discovered DH was seeing his parents and contacting his sister behind my back, I gave him an “us or them” ultimatum. Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility. Our already minimal sex life dropped to non-existent.

DH tried to broker a thaw in relationships, but all that happened was that he and I rowed, he never saw how hurt I was by his parent’s attitude to me , how frightened I was, only how we had wronged them and how he felt

Three years ago DH walked out, leaving me alone with our children. I let him have space but told him I could not cope unless there was a chance of reconciliation. He said there was, we met a few times, he said he felt he should return but did not want to.

After a year he seemed to want to return, but confessed to an affair with a former girlfriend I was devastated. DH and his parents justified his behaviour suggesting I was at least partly culpable. I wanted DH to be contrite and to break all contact with OW . DH wanted me to make returning appealing to him, to promise not to keep him from his parents and sister. Meanwhile OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me. As a result of the police threat and learning of the affair our children don’t want to see DH till the OW is out of the picture.

Now DH tells me that the guilt he feels at having only seen our children once in 3 years (and not at all since he confessed to his affair), at leaving me alone to do everything, at the sorrow he has inflicted, makes him want to return but that he loves OW.

I think DH is depressed and unhappy, that he should leave OW and then try to rebuild a life with me and our children. DH says he wishes he could; rewind time, had handled our differences better and had not got into the position he has.

How can I resolve this? I want the best for me, for DH and our children. When I tell DH how I blame OW he defends her, says its not her fault and that she was his life raft in time of need, that he would like us all (his parents, sister and OW) to be friends – I tell him that is cloud cuckoo land which seems to drive him back to OW

What should I do?

OP posts:
Anotherlongdrive · 01/11/2019 13:00

I am think the OW isnt actually an OW.

I am thinking he left OP and somewhere in the year after, he started seeing someone. He told op he was seeing someone and she now calls this an affair and that he confesses to an affair.

I know, legally, it is. But theres difference between him seeing someone before he told her the marriage is over and started to see someone months after separating.

AmIThough · 01/11/2019 13:00

@hellsbellsmelons your responses are normally very sensible but have you actually read the OP?

He said he didn't want to return then started seeing somebody else.

He felt he HAD to return but didn't want to. They were separated. Is that really cheating?

LonginesPrime · 01/11/2019 13:00

Your oncologist needs a complaint making against them for saying that

I don't believe the oncologist said that - it's far more likely that conversation went something like:

OP: What could have caused the cancer?
Dr: A number of factors, x, y, z, stress.
OP: Well recently I found out my husband has been going behind my back and breaking my trust, could that have contributed?
Dr: Well, as I said, stress can be a contributory factor.

Anyway, OP, it's one thing refusing to see his parents yourself, but forbidding him from seeing them without you there does sound very controlling. If you don't like his behaviour towards you after he's seen them, then deal with that, but infantilising him by restricting where he's allowed to go is unreasonable.

ReceptableForTheRespectable · 01/11/2019 13:03

As soon as I met my in-laws I felt intimidated by them....I asked him not to see them

After about 5 years we married, my parents were unwell and could not attend, I did not want DH’s family there.

the broken relationship with his parents who even now I have only allowed to see our 18 year old children twice.

I discovered DH was seeing his parents and contacting his sister behind my back, I gave him an “us or them” ultimatum

Unless there is a very good reason for this, this is seriously controlling behaviour. Did your DH get a say in any of this?

my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility.

I don't believe a reputable oncologist said this, it's pure manipulation. Your DH does not bear responsibility for your cancer.

I wanted DH to be contrite and to break all contact with OW . DH wanted me to make returning appealing to him, to promise not to keep him from his parents and sister. Meanwhile OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me. As a result of the police threat and learning of the affair our children don’t want to see DH till the OW is out of the picture.

From what you've posted, the OW is right. I'm willing to bet that what your children have been told is a fairly skewed version (just like your false claims that he caused your cancer), as your post describes extremely controlling, manipulative and abusive behaviour.

PaperWhiteDaisy · 01/11/2019 13:05

I think you created a really unpleasant environment by dictating his relationship with his family. Fair enough, you can choose who you spend time with. That’s totally unreasonable for you to try to manufacture how he behaves

gingersausage · 01/11/2019 13:06

You are an abusive controlling nightmare, and purely on the strength of your OP I hope your poor ex husband has a happy life now he has escaped from you. Honestly, your post is terrifying. If you were a man, people would be screaming coercive control (even though you’re a woman, it’s still coercive control). For gods sake, leave him and his new partner alone and just be bloody thankful he hasn’t called the police yet.

ReceptableForTheRespectable · 01/11/2019 13:08

gingersausage - I think pretty much everyone on this thread is in agreement that this is coercive control!

madcatladyforever · 01/11/2019 13:09

Sorry but however awful you feel someones family is you just can't insist you husband doesn't see them. That is very controlling and it sounds as if he has had enough of it.
I would stop hoping you can win him back if I were you, he has moved on and doesn't want to come back but being a man never says so directly and just mouths platitudes that make you ever hopeful which doesn't really help the situation.
He's gone and he isn't coming back.
I think it's awful he hasn't seen his own children in so long, that's despicable.

gamerchick · 01/11/2019 13:10

Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH

No way did this happen Hmm you sound well controlling. He needs to stay gone for his own mental health sake.

Raphael34 · 01/11/2019 13:12

Is this for real? You know what you’re doing to him is classed as abuse op? Youve destroyed his relationship with his parents, destroyed his relationship with his sister, have you honestly only ‘allowed’ his parents to see his own children twice in 18 years? This is absolutely disgusting behaviour on your part, giving him an ultimatum that he’s going to lose you and the children or he has to cut contact with his parents? I’m not going to call you what I think you are because my post will be deleted. I hope he doesn’t get back with an abusing control freak like you

funnylittlefloozie · 01/11/2019 13:13

OP, it must be quite shocking to be told, almost unanimously, that you are being totally unreasonable. Use this as a prompt to reflect on your life and choices, and how you might change things, going forward. FWIW, I think you might need some heavy-duty therapy.

Raphael34 · 01/11/2019 13:16

I just read the rest of your post. Do you actually believe the complete bullshit you’re spouting??

Chattybum · 01/11/2019 13:16

Can you please explain how his family intimidated you so much that it provoked such a crazy reaction from you?

AllyBamma · 01/11/2019 13:17

Whatever issues you had with his family, you had no right to issue an us or them ultimatum to him. They’re his family and he had every right to see them whenever he likes. I’m afraid you’ve made a rod for your own back there, I’m not surprised he was driven away. You sound extremely controlling.

As for the stress contributing to your breast cancer, as of yet there are no studies to support this claim so I think you’re just using that as a weapon of guilt.

The whole thing sounds so toxic, just cut your losses and move on for everyone’s sake.

DrunkUnicorn · 01/11/2019 13:17

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thenightsky · 01/11/2019 13:19

OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me

Sounds like OW is correct, except I don't think she is an OW but more of a new partner, since you were separated when they got together.

beethebee · 01/11/2019 13:19

I feel sorry for your DH actually.

It must have been very hard to be married to someone who tried to cut him off from his whole family and who has now, apparently successfully, cut him off from his DC.

Let the poor man go and stop trying to run his life.

SueDoeName · 01/11/2019 13:22

You aren't going to get him back, and I don't blame him.

You cannot dictate to another person who they can and can't see, and you isolated him from his family. !

I think you need to do some googling on what constitutes abuse / coercive control and own your own behaviour.

Beveren · 01/11/2019 13:24

my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor.

If your oncologist really said this, either s/he is utterly incompetent or s/he was humouring you.

Angelf1sh · 01/11/2019 13:25

This is all very odd and reads like a reverse, but on the assumption it’s not, you’re completely in the wrong here OP. You’ve controlled him for 30 years and appear to still be controlling your adult children. This isn’t ok. You need to pull yourself together and accept that he’d been gone for 3 years and isn’t coming back. By the way, he hasn’t had an affair, you’ve been separated for 3 years, he simply has a new relationship now. Let him go and move on with your life. You’re still scared of being alone because you haven’t processed it yet, make a start and you’ll realise that it’s not all that scary after all.

Anotherlongdrive · 01/11/2019 13:29

I dont think it's a reverse.

I thinks it probably bull shit, or actually true.

Nothing is strange as the truth.

I actually know a woman (a relative) who is so similar, this could be her. Years after her dh finally left her, she was still insisting he wanted to come back. Harrased him, the woman he started seeing 18 months later. The bitterness is some similar.

Its typical of an abuser whose victim has left.

Debfronut · 01/11/2019 13:30

My sister in law is like you. She stopped my brother seeing us and we have no relationship with my brother who I adored now for 11 years. I am not a nasty person but I hope he stays away from you and takes his children to meet their family members. You reap what you sow. If you cared about him at all tell him to go and be happy.

NigesFakeWalkingStick · 01/11/2019 13:32

Fucking hell.

Unless his family were seriously fucked up, abusive, engaging in criminal behaviour or your husband wanted to go NC with them, how you've behaved in regards to stopping him from seeing them is utterly bewildering and highly concerning. Seems your husband didn't want to go NC (hence going behind your back) and I can't believe you issued him with an ultimatium - no wonder he couldn't see past it and left.

If I'm honest, everything about your post screams alarm bells and I wouldn't want to get back with you if I were him.

Angelf1sh · 01/11/2019 13:34

Oh and I’d guess there’s at least a 50% chance that the train he hasn’t seen his kids in 3 years is because you didn’t let him after you “us or them” ultimatum. If that’s true, your behaviour is even worse than most here have already said.

Wilberforcethecat · 01/11/2019 13:36

He's done the freedom program, he isn't coming back.

You have the choice now to change your behaviour or face losing your children as well when they are adults.