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Husband says we’re over

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At17 · 20/10/2019 14:06

My DH has told me that he no longer wants to be married to me. We have been together for over twenty years and have two teenage children.

I’m in shock, I think. A few weeks ago we were making plans but now he says he hasn’t been happy for years. I honestly thought we were. Not perfect, married life isn’t always fun and games but we were a good team.

He wants us to stay living together for a while until he figures out what he wants to do. I find the thought intolerable, to be honest. At the same time though, the thought of telling the children and him moving out feels intolerable too.

This has come as a surprise to me and I think I just need advice from people who have been through it and reassurance that the children will be ok in the end. I feel like I’m failing them so badly.

OP posts:
SorrowfulMystery · 22/10/2019 11:29

Exactly what @Zaphodsotherhead said. My friend has just asked his wife for a divorce out of the blue, and is saying not dissimilar things to yours.

In his case there is no other woman, but his wife is 'competing' against his rosy fantasy of what his single life will be like. I've pointed out endlessly that any decent father will remain in the vicinity and have his children 50% of the time, so that as he works a long commute away and does little or no childcare/weeknight cooking/mental load stuff at the moment his life will actually be a lot more hardworking and difficult and involve much more active engagement with his children than it does at the moment, when his wife handles virtually everything. But it doesn't seem to sink in.

HasThisSoddingNameGoneToo · 22/10/2019 11:33

He’s told me it’s all my fault. I don’t understand him, he’s had to support me too much over the years, he’s wanted to leave for ten years but only just found the courage. That he would have left before but was worried about my mental health so stayed out of pity. That he feels like he’s been dying inside every day.

Thank God that you'll soon be shot of this cruel, selfish, arrogant man.

The "my wife doesn't understand me" line is the absolute cliche, isn't it?

Being maried for 20+ years has made you forget how LOVELY it is to live by yourself, or with your kids. It is BLISS. Men are boring AF to live with. All they do is watch TV. But living alone with DC is heavenly. Really.

You will remember who YOU are. You will remember everything that YOU like. You might even find that the depression and anxiety were caused by being married to him. I did! I came off anti-depressants when my first husband left, and overcame all my fears. They'd all been caused by the mental turmoil of trying to cope with my life with HIM.

Please have faith and trust me on this. It's lovely after they leave. It's so, so lovely. You'll miss what he represented, maybe, for a bit, but you won't miss him.

PicsInRed · 22/10/2019 11:34

He told me that he never wanted to get married, that I pushed him into it.

Yeah, they'll say that.
It's bullshit.

INeedAFlerken · 22/10/2019 11:35

He's showing his true colours right now, OP, and they aren't pretty ones.

WHat a dick. Rewriting history trying to pretend he never wanted to get married, have a family, and wanted to leave a decade ago. What a lying dick.

Mid life crisis by the sounds of it ... tell him to get to fuck and go live with his parents then.

PicsInRed · 22/10/2019 11:35

You might even find that the depression and anxiety were caused by being married to him. I did! I came off anti-depressants when my first husband left, and overcame all my fears. They'd all been caused by the mental turmoil of trying to cope with my life with HIM.

Yup. 👏

Ahundredpercentthatbitch · 22/10/2019 11:38

He’s blatantly having an affair.

Cut to the chase now and tell him to fuck off.

Then file for divorce.

Yankeescot · 22/10/2019 11:49

Keep hold of that anger @At17! A good way to hang onto that anger may be to go back and re-read the whole thread from your first post.

The predictions of what he was going to start saying from the script, blaming you. He's right on schedule from the predictions. It may better prepare you for the things that will shortly follow from him. It's like these men received a handbook and recite from it. They think they invented the bullshit line they're trying to feed you, but they don't realise that it's overused bs line.

Please, please get your financial affairs in a place that will protect you and the children. 30 minute free Solicitor consultation could offer some valuable advice based on your personal circumstances. He doesn't get to decide your future for you. It's your life and your future.

So happy to hear he's going off to his parents and you'll get some space. Stay strong, and please try and hang onto the anger. x

Ilovelala · 22/10/2019 11:52

I admire how kind you are to a man who doesn't deserve it but you need to stop being so kind. I know you still want him back even though you shouldn't, but look at it this way, the best way to get him back or move on without him is to kick him out. Show this man what life is like for him now. Make him tell your kids and show this man no emotion. Show him what it feels like to no longer have you to try and fall back on if it doesn't work out with the OW. I know you can't see it yet, but it was staggeringly obvious when you said she had split with her husband too. It's not your fault you trusted your own husband. Believe nothing, he's now the enemy. Treat him that way.

Derbee · 22/10/2019 12:48

Unfortunately OP, this is the point at which the nasty fucking bastard starts coming out. Stay angry, stay strong, fight your corner. This is NOT your fault. This is HIS fault.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 22/10/2019 12:56

Honestly if my husband told me he'd never wanted to get married and Id pushed him into it I'd look him up and down and say "you must be a very weak man then"- and then chuck his bags through the window.

TuttiFrutti123 · 22/10/2019 13:32

The old "never wanted to get married line". What a d-bag! Classic script. They think they're so unique and special, not!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1527705-Midlife-crisis-this-is-the-script

Glad to hear you've found your anger OP Flowers

Kit19 · 22/10/2019 13:45

Fuck me @At17 he really is lowest of the low!

In his head you are now the bad guy because when when he told you what he wanted to do, you didbt nod & say “you must do what you need & I’ll support you in every way I can” . Now you’ve told him what you think he can’t kid himself he’s being good & reasonable & so he’s lashing out

He’s an arse - get yourself a solicitor & her him out of the house

cloudbusting42 · 22/10/2019 13:46

@At17 I am SEETHING on your behalf. And I'm pretty sure I know exactly how you feel. I had those lines too, he'd been unhappy since forever, he'd tried to tell me / he couldn't tell me, I was too high maintenance / negative /selfish. I didn't get the regretting getting married bit but I hear that's in the script too.

How dare he dump this shit on you. How dare he make this unilateral decision about the future of your family. How dare he not breathe a word of his feelings or of his plans. How dare he blame you. People in relationships talk about problems and worries. Utter dicksatchels do not. People fall out of love, I get it. But to deal with this so badly is unforgivable.

He has traumatised you by keeping this from you and just notifying you after a decision has been made. You're feeling wretched. Angry, scared, frustrated at not being able to do a single thing about this. But also desperately wanting to make things right, or to turn back the clock and try harder. You'll be sad for the future, for all the lost things, and the plans that are now lost down the river.

But as I said in my previous post, this is the hand you've been dealt. You seem like a good person. You've had some good advice. You'll be OK in time. Maybe even better than you ever have been.

cloudbusting42 · 22/10/2019 13:49

And in case it helps, this is my reading pile, in chronological order since the same thing happened to me in Oct 2018. It's quite a story in itself.

And woman, order the Chump Lady book today (Leave a Cheater Gain a Life). Hell, DM me and I'll send it to you.

Husband says we’re over
HandsOffMyRights · 22/10/2019 15:33

OP, just catching up. What a piece of work your DH is.

He's found his cockiness now he has somebody else. I believe this is also texbook.

I'm furious on your behalf.

Graphista · 22/10/2019 15:47

Kids aren’t stupid! My dd was very young when we split and I (wrongly I think in hindsight) took the “don’t speak ill of the ex” to a bit of an extreme. As she got older she very much got ex’s number and when she was doing human reproduction at school (and again Mea culpa as I should’ve realised what would happen here) she worked out her eldest half sibling was born just 7 months after ex and I split and she was FURIOUS! Not only with him (although mainly with him) but also with me for not being honest with her. Very difficult all round.

Kids hear things, they work things out, they notice behaviour.

I’ve seen it on here too, people in that situation and the kids are older and they really don’t buy dad moving in with someone he’s just met claiming a whirlwind romance etc, I’ve even read posts by now adult mners who were the children in these scenarios who even though nobody specifically told them at the time they worked out mum/dad had cheated and that was why parents divorced and they had it confirmed when they reached adulthood.

So, no you don’t character assassinate your ex to your kids but you don’t sanitise and sainthood them either! It’s finding an honest balance that seems best.

10 years? Bullshit! No way has he been unhappy that long without saying a bloody word to ANYBODY especially you.

DO NOT stand for his blaming you! That’s because he feels guilty - which he should - and he’s trying to assuage that guilt!

“He told me that he never wanted to get married, that I pushed him into it.” More bullshit! Mine tried this one too - even his own mother called him on that! Did you hold a gun to his head? I very much doubt it! He was a grown ass adult with agency nobody forced him into marriage and nobody forced him to stay married either!

At the time I wasn’t on mn (wish I had been!) but I did have a confidante of an older generation who was very wise and experienced and told me this is what all cheats do/say she’d seen it umpteen times with her friends/family, her husband was lovely and faithful but she’d seen and heard of this loads.

I was so hurt at the time and analysed what I’d done/said and felt guilt at some things (ex was VERY good at twisting certain events/comments I’d made) but...

Since my own split many of my peers have also gone through splits and where there’s been infidelity (whether by man or woman) the cheaters really do follow the script! It’s both shocking and predictably boring! To the point that now when friends/family say “stbx said x” I pretty much instantly think “there’s an ow/om there” and I’ve yet to be wrong in over 30 examples! I don’t always say so, it depends how close I am to the person and their personality whether it’s worth risking being the messenger that gets shot! A good few times when I’ve decided to keep schtum the person has come to me at a later stage and said “you knew didn’t you” and I’ll simply say I suspected but as I’d no proof I didn’t feel I should say anything.

To this point none have had a problem with what I’ve decided to say/not say so hopefully that means I’m making the right decisions.

PLEASE though bear in mind that his assuaging his guilt on the cheating ALSO means he feels he is the injured party and will treat financial matters accordingly, if you’ve any joint accounts you REALLY need to make sure you withdraw any of your money from them and have a separate sole account and have your wages and any other income paid into that ASAP.

PROTECT YOURSELF FINANCIALLY AND LEGALLY BECAUSE HE IS NO LONGER YOUR FRIEND!

hellsbellsmelons · 22/10/2019 16:18

OMG he is really really following 'the script' now OP.
Have a read - it's actually funny and so very accurate.
HERE IT IS
Now it's YOU who pushed him to get married. He's been unhappy for 10 years - boo-fucking-hoo!!!!
Honestly, it's all bullship - read that link - you will find yourself having a chuckle at a time when that is so very unlikely!

hellsbellsmelons · 22/10/2019 16:21

And yes - as a PP has said, protect yourself and your DC.
His guilt is already fading.
Get thee to a solicitor quick sharp!
He is not your friend now.
He will NOT be fair about anything.
SHE will be saying all sorts about how it should all be HIS etc....!
Get as much info as you can on the house, mortgage, assets, savings, bank accounts, stocks, shares, pensions, wages, bonuses.
And have your marriage certificate handy - you need that for a divorce.
Trust us OP - start collating what ever you can NOW!

BlancoNita · 22/10/2019 16:43

Oh god Op, I had initially wanted to come on here and give your head a wobble, you seem so naieve and blind to his carry on but then again you come across as kind hearted and loyal and that's not a bad thing in itself.

I think she is his OW, he is treating you like absolute shit. Even if he wasn't having an affair and just fell out of love with you, there is no way any good man would treat you like this, he is rubbing your face in it, telling you it was your fault.

He is a fucking dog, no sorry he is a lowlife. Why on earth would you want to be with a man like that, please grow a spine and leave him, you will meet someone who will appreciate your kind soul

SpookilyBadOooooooh · 22/10/2019 16:54

Pay no attention to his wittering about the past and it ALL being awful, not having wanted to get married, not being happy

it is ALL part of the script

I’ll put money in ‘friend’ being OW.

Do not blame yourself for this. Hundreds of threads on here alone. You can follow any if them to see what comes next. It’s all so horribly fucking predictable 😢

Big Girl Pants. You’re stronger than you realise 🌷you and the kids WILL be ok, it’ll take time, but it will be ok Truly x

Drabarni · 22/10/2019 16:57

Please call him out on him trying to change history. Tell him if it was that bad he had chance to change it rather than dipping his dick in someone else.
Don't take his shit and show him the cheaters script, definitely point out where he is now and what will come next.
At least get some winding up in before he goes.
He has no right to be there now, you should kick him out and show him that you respect yourself and not prepared to wait around for him.

At17 · 22/10/2019 16:58

I just feel like I’m suffocating right now. I hear that in time things will be okay. But this hurts so, so much.

OP posts:
Drabarni · 22/10/2019 17:03

My love, it's natural for it to hurt, I'm so sorry you are going through this.
Please get him out of the house, you need space to come to terms with it all and plan your next steps.
He has checked out now and it's a waste of time him being there.
Just kick him out and stop allowing him to treat you like this.

Kit19 · 22/10/2019 17:10

@At17

Just breathe xxxx you will get through this one day at a time & it won’t be easy but you can do it

It will be better once he’s gone & you don’t have to listen to his belligerent whining excuses fir his behaviour

0lga · 22/10/2019 17:55

Being maried for 20+ years has made you forget how LOVELY it is to live by yourself, or with your kids. It is BLISS. Men are boring AF to live with. All they do is watch TV. But living alone with DC is heavenly. Really

This is exactly how I felt, after I got over the worst of the shock. I think it took me about 6 weeks to realise how much better my new normal was.

I hadn’t realised how much TIME I spent

Listening to him talk about his work issues
Helping him solve his work problems
Doing his share of the housework and parenting so he could work in the evenings and weekends
Watching TV HE liked so we could spend time “ together”
Having “family “ days out doing things HE liked but the kids didn’t
Having to make sure the kids behaved on these days out so he didn’t sulk
Having “ family holidays” where he went off to do his hobby and I watched the kids
Eating food HE liked but I didn’t
Visiting and hosting HIS family
Tidying up his mess, washing and ironing his clothes
Having sex I’d didn’t particularly want at times I didn’t want it
Organising my ENTIRE LIFE around him and his wants

Once I let go of my fantasy life I discovered that I liked my new life ( me and the kids ) much better.

This will be you too OP, you just need time to adjust.

Just make sure he sees the kids EOW and one night a week but NOT IN YOUR HOUSE.