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A year of being hidden

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Sparkslilly · 13/10/2019 07:42

Hi all. Sorry for the long message but I really need some advice. I'll try and keep this long story as brief as possible.

Last year I left my husband, 4 months later I met someone who I have worked with for years but never really talked to, who I discovered was also getting a divorce. I had heard rumours about this man cheating on his wife so the first day we went out, I asked him about his affair and he admitted he had cheated on his wife because he was unhappy and looking for a way out but the consequences of his cheating were terrible. He ended up in hospital after the womans husband beat him up. I decided to not judge as I didnt know him back then and didnt know his relationship. The woman he cheated with is a parent from his childs school.

So we stood by each other, I learned that his wife was extremely violent to him, headbuting him and punching him etc even trying to get him arrested a few times, it was a lot to take in especially after just coming out of a marriage where I was cheated on, but I stood by him and we moved in together in december, though we kept our relationship quiet because of his crazy ex (who ended up stalking his new house by driving round searching for his car with his personalised number plate on the drive of every 'to let's house) 🙄 and because he wanted to divorce her he didnt want her to have any reason to keep him from seeing his kids (such as a new relationship with me)
On Valentines day, I woke up to the most romantic thing I have ever seen, he really went all out trying to spoil me but then our day was ruined when his ex caused trouble between him and the woman he slept with once last year from school (who ended up ringing him on valentines day running our day together)
Anyway, eventually I met his kids in February this year after his wife agreed to it, but that didnt stop her being nasty. Shes always saying how much she hates her kids and wishes she never had them. She stopped him seeing his kids all summer because he is happy with me and she is bitter. She uses them as pawns all the time and it's really cruel to watch
So court dates started for him as he knew his ex wouldnt go easily as he said she always believed she would go back to him.
There have been times where my boyfriend would randomly snap at me for something and I wouldnt understand why, almost like there was something bigger bothering him. It's been the strangest thing, like hes been wanting to tell me something but instead just snaps at me as a defence.
Through our year together we have had a few arguments about the lady at school he slept with messaging him every time he picks his kids up from school. It makes me uncomfortable even though he tells me theres nothing to worry about, I dont think it's right that she texts him whenever she likes and that he replies to her when he tells me he doesnt want anything to do with her 🙄 it doesnt make sense to me. Hes told me shes a slag and will go after anyone but that doesnt really make me feel better because hes with me now and he says he's happy with me so why feel the need to converse with her? Especially especially her husband hospitalised him for sleeping with her. But whenever I tell him how I feel about it, he goes mardy and tells me to let it go. Which really annoys me.

So on our one year anniversary he proposed to me, which was a complete shock but I accepted, he makes me so happy I couldnt help but say yes, even though on the days leading up to it we weren't speaking due to the woman from school and i very nearly left him because I didnt want to be continuously lied to again.
I've been divorced since April (my divorce was civil)

All through our relationship I have had to hide, I cant go into the school, I can't wait in the car when he picks his kids up, I can't post on Facebook anything (even our engagement) he never changes his pics to one of me and him, all because he wants his divorce to go through (18 months after leaving her!)
I'm tired of feeling hidden away. He wants to marry me. Why wont he shout it to the world?
2 weeks after we got engaged, the bombshell hit. His kid told us in the car something their mum had told them and my partner went pale. I knew then that this was the secret he had been keeping from me.
When he was 17 he slept with someone who got pregnant and had a baby, she told him it was his but she said she wasnt sure, when he was 18 the woman said she wanted her boyfriend to bring up the kid his own which he agreed to as he wasnt ready to be a father. It all made sense to me when he told me that. Though hearing it from his daughter wasnt ideal. He should have told me.

Last night I found out he had been texting the woman from school AGAIN after telling me he doesnt see her anymore as they line up at different sides and her other kid goes to a different school now. He also told her about the secret van we have and she said (after being told of the seat heaters)" I love a warm bum 😜"
Should I be annoyed with this? Am I overthinking everything? Hes asked me to marry him yet I still feel like hes lying to me! And I'm afraid to ask him about it because when I do, he goes mardy and always tells me to get over it! Need some advice please. Feeling really exhausted from all these emotions.

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NotStayingIn · 13/10/2019 08:37

Sorry OP if you believe option 2 you really are stupid. Very very stupid. And it would be the sort of stupidity that will fuck up the rest of your live.

You know it’s option 1. That is why you wrote this post. You’ve known for a long time. Now act and get yourself out. Flowers

user1493494961 · 13/10/2019 08:38

Is this a wind-up or are you really this naive.

usersouthcoast · 13/10/2019 08:38

Oh my god, it's not option 2!

TheGoddessFrigg · 13/10/2019 08:38

My test now for relationships is - would this be on Jeremy Kyle?
He was in hospital after he got beat up by the husband of the woman he had an affair with? Mate, that was the point at which HUGE alarm bells should have been ringing.......

BustedDreams · 13/10/2019 08:42

Being part of a co-dependant unhealthy relationship is not the same as being in a mutually respectful loving relationship. It’s the latter you want but it’s the former you’ve got. Sorry.

Sparkslilly · 13/10/2019 08:44

The house is in my name, though he did use his money for the deposit, but as hes trying to get out of his martial home (joint mortgage) we had to put this one in my name - which I'm very pleased about!!

@NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 I didnt fall for him because of his money, he does earn more than me, but when its just him and me in our own world, we are like a real couple should be. He is my profile pictures, he just wont have me on his??? Not sure why.

He has told me that after his next court date (2 weeks time) i can go with him to pick the kids up from school ...
which will mean me seeing that girl which makes me feel anxious.

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MarianaMoatedGrange · 13/10/2019 08:45

Ffs don't get pregnant with this absolute misogynistic, lying, using piece of shit.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/10/2019 08:47

Stop and think about one simple thing...

When you are in love it conquers all, you want to shout it fr m the rooftops. Yet here you are: invisible, hidden, a secret. A secret he is binding close to his side. The puppy and kitten were supposed to make you feel maternal, to make it more difficult to leave. Now you have a ring and the thoughts of a child... will he hide your child too, like he does his first born?

Do yourself a big favour. Break up, go out and live alone, find out who you are when not being managed by a man.

If he is real he will give space and time, will wait for you.

nrpmum · 13/10/2019 08:50

Kick him out, and stay the hell away from him. Do Not get pregnant.

CAFCASS (for those who know) have told him he has nothing to worry about with his kids as any social services files or police files all show him as the innocent one and his ex as the guilty one.

Have you seen the file, or were you privvy to that conversation? I ask because my ex husband who had numerous convictions for domestic violence against me and another ex was still allowed to have overnight contact with our child.

GlitteredAcorns · 13/10/2019 08:50

Take the blinkers off and get the hell out!

katewhinesalot · 13/10/2019 08:51

If his crazy ex wife knows about you, his kids and his mum know about you, why are you still a secret at school?

He's keeping you a secret because he doesn't want the woman he was having an affair with, to know about you. Why? Presumably because something is still going on but it has to stay a secret because he doesn't want to be beaten up again.

There is no reason not to be shouting about you from the rooftops.

Sparkslilly · 13/10/2019 08:51

@nrpmum its just what he told me...

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ChaosisntapitChaosisaladder19 · 13/10/2019 08:51

Are you so stupid to think you are so special you can make him change. I don't buy the butter wife the slag ow it's never him thats the issue,hes the victim in all of this.

Dieu · 13/10/2019 08:52

I didn't even read the whole of your opening post, but even the beginning part had more red flags than a Man U game. And you ignored every single one Confused
It IS ok to be on your own, following a divorce. And it's much better to be alone than with a loser like this. I think your judgement was probably skewed because you were so soon out of your previous relationship.
You can do better Thanks

Sparkslilly · 13/10/2019 08:52

@katewhinesalot he says that she does know about me and she does know how happy he is with me 🙄🙄

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IdiotInDisguise · 13/10/2019 08:52

Too many lies to be able to trust him. Good nature my arse, that’s how liars get away with murder.

The good relationship with his mum is a red herring, she doesn’t know what her son is up to.

SunshineCake · 13/10/2019 08:52

It isn't a criticism but your OP was about 90% longer than I needed to be.

Ask yourself why you want to marry someone one who lies to you, shuts you up by saying you are mardy and can walk away from a child he created.

Also couldn't help but say yes? Don't be embarrassing.

nrpmum · 13/10/2019 08:57

Sparkslilly he is lying. He has lovebombed you.

You said the house is in your name. Change the locks, put all his stuff in bin liners at the front door and tell him to leave.

I'd put money on him being the abuser, and it is classic for abusers to trap their victims with babies, and for abuse to appear or ramp up during pregnancy.

Please also do the freedom programme.

KatherineParr8 · 13/10/2019 08:58

This man is a liar and a cheat. He calls a woman he’s slept with a slag but still texts her all the time. He asked you to marry him yet he withheld a very important fact about his past. There will be a lot more. If you marry him and he knows he’s got you, you’ll find the romantic gestures etc soon stop I would guess.
Just get out now. His poor kids.

category12 · 13/10/2019 08:58

Make an application under Clare's Law.

Happymum12345 · 13/10/2019 08:59

You need to leave him. I imagine that lots of partners say things about their ex wives that aren’t true-like head butting him, & not wanting her children. I wouldn’t believe thing a cheating man would say. Get out of that toxic relationship now, you know you’ll be the one his cheaating on next if he isn’t already.

Lowlandlucky · 13/10/2019 08:59

Is this woman who keeps texting him the one that he got pregnant when he was 18 ?

Interestedwoman · 13/10/2019 09:00

I wouldn't even call it being manipulated. You're not thick, you know what's going on.

'I love a warm bum' !!! WTF.

He should not be messaging with this person, and when she wrote that he should've txt back that it's not ok to write stuff like that, because he's in a relationship with you.

He's a cheater and he's still flirting with what was the other woman, or at least allowing her to flirt with him, stringing her along, probaly so he can make use of her again if he wants to.

This is a cheater who you can't trust- dump him.

I'd also be intrigued to know, as he doesn't want you to talk to his ex, what he doesn't want you to find out from her.

diddl · 13/10/2019 09:01

He cheated because he was unhappyHmm

He was beaten up by the husband of the OW-that would have me running.

Too Eastenders for me.

HillRunner · 13/10/2019 09:02

Yep, the Valentine's day gesture and the gifts of puppies and kittens have lovebombong written all over them.

He's good at grand gestures, but that's easy, anyone can do that. At other times he treats you like shit and lies to you. LTB. ASAP.

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