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A year of being hidden

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Sparkslilly · 13/10/2019 07:42

Hi all. Sorry for the long message but I really need some advice. I'll try and keep this long story as brief as possible.

Last year I left my husband, 4 months later I met someone who I have worked with for years but never really talked to, who I discovered was also getting a divorce. I had heard rumours about this man cheating on his wife so the first day we went out, I asked him about his affair and he admitted he had cheated on his wife because he was unhappy and looking for a way out but the consequences of his cheating were terrible. He ended up in hospital after the womans husband beat him up. I decided to not judge as I didnt know him back then and didnt know his relationship. The woman he cheated with is a parent from his childs school.

So we stood by each other, I learned that his wife was extremely violent to him, headbuting him and punching him etc even trying to get him arrested a few times, it was a lot to take in especially after just coming out of a marriage where I was cheated on, but I stood by him and we moved in together in december, though we kept our relationship quiet because of his crazy ex (who ended up stalking his new house by driving round searching for his car with his personalised number plate on the drive of every 'to let's house) 🙄 and because he wanted to divorce her he didnt want her to have any reason to keep him from seeing his kids (such as a new relationship with me)
On Valentines day, I woke up to the most romantic thing I have ever seen, he really went all out trying to spoil me but then our day was ruined when his ex caused trouble between him and the woman he slept with once last year from school (who ended up ringing him on valentines day running our day together)
Anyway, eventually I met his kids in February this year after his wife agreed to it, but that didnt stop her being nasty. Shes always saying how much she hates her kids and wishes she never had them. She stopped him seeing his kids all summer because he is happy with me and she is bitter. She uses them as pawns all the time and it's really cruel to watch
So court dates started for him as he knew his ex wouldnt go easily as he said she always believed she would go back to him.
There have been times where my boyfriend would randomly snap at me for something and I wouldnt understand why, almost like there was something bigger bothering him. It's been the strangest thing, like hes been wanting to tell me something but instead just snaps at me as a defence.
Through our year together we have had a few arguments about the lady at school he slept with messaging him every time he picks his kids up from school. It makes me uncomfortable even though he tells me theres nothing to worry about, I dont think it's right that she texts him whenever she likes and that he replies to her when he tells me he doesnt want anything to do with her 🙄 it doesnt make sense to me. Hes told me shes a slag and will go after anyone but that doesnt really make me feel better because hes with me now and he says he's happy with me so why feel the need to converse with her? Especially especially her husband hospitalised him for sleeping with her. But whenever I tell him how I feel about it, he goes mardy and tells me to let it go. Which really annoys me.

So on our one year anniversary he proposed to me, which was a complete shock but I accepted, he makes me so happy I couldnt help but say yes, even though on the days leading up to it we weren't speaking due to the woman from school and i very nearly left him because I didnt want to be continuously lied to again.
I've been divorced since April (my divorce was civil)

All through our relationship I have had to hide, I cant go into the school, I can't wait in the car when he picks his kids up, I can't post on Facebook anything (even our engagement) he never changes his pics to one of me and him, all because he wants his divorce to go through (18 months after leaving her!)
I'm tired of feeling hidden away. He wants to marry me. Why wont he shout it to the world?
2 weeks after we got engaged, the bombshell hit. His kid told us in the car something their mum had told them and my partner went pale. I knew then that this was the secret he had been keeping from me.
When he was 17 he slept with someone who got pregnant and had a baby, she told him it was his but she said she wasnt sure, when he was 18 the woman said she wanted her boyfriend to bring up the kid his own which he agreed to as he wasnt ready to be a father. It all made sense to me when he told me that. Though hearing it from his daughter wasnt ideal. He should have told me.

Last night I found out he had been texting the woman from school AGAIN after telling me he doesnt see her anymore as they line up at different sides and her other kid goes to a different school now. He also told her about the secret van we have and she said (after being told of the seat heaters)" I love a warm bum 😜"
Should I be annoyed with this? Am I overthinking everything? Hes asked me to marry him yet I still feel like hes lying to me! And I'm afraid to ask him about it because when I do, he goes mardy and always tells me to get over it! Need some advice please. Feeling really exhausted from all these emotions.

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Ffsnosexallowed · 13/10/2019 08:21

Overthinking??? Doesn't sound like you've thought about this at all. He doesn't have a good heart, he's a lier and a manipulator.

ChaosisntapitChaosisaladder19 · 13/10/2019 08:22

Talk about setting the bar low. You do know he is likely going to cheat with you with the "slag," down the toad in the secret van. OP wake up and smell the coffee this has got disaster written all over theres so many red flags you can make bunting.

pictish · 13/10/2019 08:23

I also wonder if it’s not so much he wants to get the divorce out of the way...but that he wants that ring on your finger before it all comes out.

His marital status isn’t actually relevant in any of this...but yours might be.

lasttimeround · 13/10/2019 08:24

Just look at your responses. His good heart. Really? The language about his exes, abandoned children, lying about finances = this is not a good heart. Hes not honest.
The texting. You dont need anything more than keeping your distance to keep the peace at the school gates. Being civil when you bump into each other. No need to text.
Also all these big romantic gestures that seem to have you so ensnared. Look at them objectively for a minute. A decent person diesnt propose when they are still married. You sort out your things and deal with intent and integrity. He really doesnt.

sarahjconnor · 13/10/2019 08:24

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pictish · 13/10/2019 08:25

I’m not making a bald statement here by the way. I have no idea what’s going on with this guy.
But you know...those are the thoughts that immediately jump to the fore in my head.

FineWordsForAPorcupine · 13/10/2019 08:25

He said he only wanted to introduce them to one person as he didnt want to mess them around and now they have me hes happy that they have me
Do you think that's a lie?

It's not so much its definitely a lie, as that it's....just words. It's easy to say and sounds nice, and fits with his own self image as a stand up guy and loving father.

He hasn't had to do anything to prove it - he isn't even divorced and he's already introduced his kids to his first girlfriend, so who knows whether that will end up being "the only person he ever introduces them to"?

Stop taking his words so seriously, and look at his actions. Think about what sounds likely and reasonable to you, rather that assuming that if he says something, it must be the case. You don't have to believe that he is deliberately lying - he may just be someone who says things because they're nice to say, or he hopes they might be true, or at least they aren't untrue yet, or he fully intends to do them, but something got in the way, not his fault, etc.

Sparkslilly · 13/10/2019 08:26

But how do you leave someone you have fallen in love with? 😔😞

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RamsayBoltonsConscience · 13/10/2019 08:28

Take out all the drama and look at the facts - he's been lying to you. Will you ever be able to trust him? You clearly don't trust him now or you wouldn't be posting? I hate to generalise but if they've cheated in one relationship, they're likely to cheat in the next. Only you can make the decision of how to move forward but living with someone you can't trust is horrific and will eventually rip apart any love you feel for the person.

lasttimeround · 13/10/2019 08:28

You get some self respect and leave. Give it yome your heart will heal. And believe us all once the mind fog clears you will be thankful you left this guy to his dramas

lazylinguist · 13/10/2019 08:28

Sorry OP, but you sound like you are a pretty poor judge of character if you think that 'teaching you to drive and buying you a kitten and a puppy' somehow negate all the dodgy things about this man. Red flags galore. Any man going on about slags and crazy exes is as man to avoid.

quincejamplease · 13/10/2019 08:28

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Of course you are being manipulated. Fucking hell.

You cannot possibly think all this shit is normal or healthy or desirable.

If you don't extricate yourself from this - from him - I guarantee you will be back here in a few years (if even that long) because your entire life has crashed and burned at his hands.

He's not even being original - this is textbook abuser 101. You must have been treated so incredibly badly in the past if you think this is a healthy relationship.

Www.freedomprogramme.co.uk - if you have any desire to learn what healthy relationships look like, and what a textbook toxic mess yours is.

wheretonow123 · 13/10/2019 08:30

Can you maybe just step back from it all.

Take a break and allow him to eliminate all this drama from his life and when he is in a position to commit to you fully then you can see how you both feel about each other.

The current situation must be so bad for your mental health.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 13/10/2019 08:31

It always surprises me how many women are happy to be "secrets". That sort of thing wouldn't be for me i'm afraid. I'm no-one's little secret you either date me openly or get on your bike.

You say you live together? Was it your house he moved into? Where was he living before? No-one loves you more than a man who needs somewhere to live.

Just dump him - he's cheating on you!

dottiedodah · 13/10/2019 08:31

I agree with all the above TBH! There are so many red flags blowing here, its like a National Day in China! I would think about ceasing this relationship ASAP and getting out ! Why is he still texting this woman from the School Run ? He sounds to me as though he wants to keep you sweet .Puppies ,Kittens .Engagement ring and so on .If you have only been divorced since April the you need some space ! Whatever is going on here it doesnt sound right does it .Why all the secrecy on FB ? You need to get to the bottom of it ,If you marry such a man you will never be able to trust him!

category12 · 13/10/2019 08:32

But how do you leave someone you have fallen in love with?

You realise love is just an emotion you get over, like any other.
You realise that pretty words don't go anywhere near making up for bad behaviour.
You realise that you can't go through life with a partner you can't trust.
You realise pouring love into a relationship doesn't make it work, or make it happy.

Sparkslilly · 13/10/2019 08:32

I have 2 gut feelings.

  1. he will cheat on me and hurt me, hes been manipulating me and now wants a baby with me so he can do it all again to someone else.

  2. he genuinely loves me and is trying to untangle all his lies without me leaving him but feels his past is full of too much baggage to is trying to protect me.

I have no idea what to believe.

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thebakerwithboobs · 13/10/2019 08:34

I'm afraid you lost me (or he did) at 'he says she's a slag.' What a bloke 🙄

Get out. He's a knobhead.

Littlepeak34 · 13/10/2019 08:34

I’m sorry but you have to hide? So... the slag doesn’t see you? Why?

He is still texting the woman he cheated on his ex with. That is just not acceptable yet he shuts you down when you ask about it. You have every right to ask about it. He is controlling you.

Why can’t you announce your engagement, I don’t get it?

Everything about this screams LEAVE HIM.

NotStayingIn · 13/10/2019 08:34

Everything is wrong here. There are so many red flags there is no point listing them all as it would literally be a repeat of your post. Run OP!

ChaosisntapitChaosisaladder19 · 13/10/2019 08:35

Oh god now he wants to baby trap you it's been a year hes not even divorced hes still in contact with ow and you're engaged get out op.

pictish · 13/10/2019 08:35

You take righteous offence to being manipulated, lied to, led a merry dance, disrespected, kept fucking secret...and being given a bloody puppy and a kitten to look after as a grand gesture.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 13/10/2019 08:36

What's he bringing to the relationship Sparkslilly? Is he your financial equal? A hard worker earning good money?

Was it your house he moved into?

pictish · 13/10/2019 08:36
  1. It’s 1.
Underyoursky · 13/10/2019 08:37

So he wants a baby with you to bring a fourth (?) child into this mess and he’s still married. What if he’s sleeping with the ‘slag’ from the school gates and she gets pregnant too?

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