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My mum steals off me

63 replies

Cherrypicker01 · 07/10/2019 17:56

Bit of a weird one really.

I had a really strained relationship with my mother as a child, she had a few mental health issues which lead me leaving home when I was 13. We didn’t see each other for some time after she tried to commit suicide when I felt and there was a family dispute over the reason for it being me leaving. The only reason I left is because I was that miserable at home I wanted to end it myself, the leaving was a last survival tactic to get out. Fast forward a few years I tried again with her, she was worse by this point mentally and I offered to move in with her and help her – she took offense to this, called me a cheeky bitch and said she never wanted to see me again.

I had my first DD when I was 21, and after I got pregnant our relationship started growing again. My DD is 7 now and she has a great relationship with her nan. My mum offers to help out with the school run a lot, I heavily reply on her for childcare and pickups as I’m in full time employment. We’ve helped each other out money wise when we have both been in need, and we have both lived at each other’s for a few months when we have been transitioning between homes etc.

The problem is she’s still not a very nice woman at all and will lie at every chance she gets (shes good at it as well.) She frequently steals form my home if she childminds. It’s not major things, but she will be sure to swipe a bag of half my toilet rolls, coffee ,anything basic etc. She does not work due to her health so she is often struggling with money but when I confront her about it and ask if she has seen things which are missing she will flat out deny it. For example, I bought two of the comfort intense fab cons a few month back, and when I was running low on the first I went to look for the second to find it missing. I asked if she had seen it – she said no. A few days later I go to her flat to find her busy cleaning – my bottle of comfort on the top of her dresser in the living room. I know for a fact she won’t spend on anything like that it is rare she buys fab con at all, and I know its only fabric conditioner but it’s not cheap and it’s still a cost on my shop!!

She’s stolen money off my ex-partner as well whilst cleaning – going through his drawers and ripping a bag clean open – no attempt to sneak it - with change in it (only coppers and a few silvers). She’d swiped half the bag. My partner at the time noticed and confronted me about it, you can imagine my embarrassment that my own mother would steal off my partner! She was less than remorseful when I asked her about it too with responses like ‘its only coppers he’d not going to miss it’ and ‘well he’s got a full time decent job, I need it more than he does’ like she genuinely believes she’s done no wrong and she’s entitled to it!

She’s such a mass of destruction as well, whenever she has been at my home I’ve found glass on the kitchen floor from a glass she’s smashed but has hidden in the bin and would never admit to and not cleaned up properly (it was my DD that told me about it the next day!) and a few week ago I found my front room window key bent to snapping point in the lock, which snapped as soon as I tried to get it out like she’d been ragging it about). Its constant damage, things going missing and me thinking I’m going crazy.

She uses me as well, but because she’s so helpful with my DD I feel like I can’t blame her for it or say anything. She constantly pestering me for money ill get a text every week saying she cant afford electric and she’ll text me three times asking in an hour or for days straight and if I dint reply I always get ‘its okay ill just sit in the dark until Friday…’ trying to make me feel bad. She always gives the money back in the timescale that she says but when I ask her again what the money is for she will say that my brother is struggling with money too (he earns more than me, never contributes to the bills and they live together!) and she needs food in the house for his dinners, which is fair enough but the day after he’ll have gone and bought himself a sports car or a new bike or something ridiculous!!

Im being taken for an absolute mug and its embarrassing! Im so fed up of it all ive been lying to her saying Ive lost my bank card because I don’t want to fund his ridiculous lifestyle!. A new one is that shes been asking to borrow my vaccum cleaner as she doesn’t have one but I wont get it back for weeks and when I do get it back I will literally have it for a day or two before she asks again and its been like that over the summer. So not only cant I vac my carpets half the time, I have bought myself a vac and without even realising she owns it now too!

My DD absolutely adores this woman and as much as Ive wanted to cut ties with her, I just cant do that to DD. I’d be screwed without that school run help as well. Ive never written this to anyone either it feel weird to get it all out but I am just so fed up with the lies and the using and how pester and ‘not normal’ she is its upsetting.

OP posts:
AhNowTed · 08/10/2019 15:09

OP, OK I get it.

So you know what you have to do.

See my post just before your last one.

I understand. It's disfunctional to say the least.

HavelockVetinari · 08/10/2019 15:14

Sounds like you're using each other - she uses you for cash/stuff, you use her for free childcare.

Sharpandshineyteeth · 08/10/2019 15:23

I had this exact same problem.

It was distressing and frustrating never knowing whether something that had gone missing had actually been stolen. It was really hurtful as well that she didn’t care.

She ended up stealing from my kids and I was finally able to prove it so I cut contact with her 3 years ago.

I thought I would feel guilty but it was way easier than I thought and it feels amazing not to have to hide anything or worry that she has stolen.

Cherrypicker01 · 08/10/2019 15:26

@sharpandshinyteeth

Awh I’m sorry she did that how awful for you. SomePeople have no morals at all do they!

I know she used to steal my birthday money and things off me when I was a kid because she ‘needed it more’.

I know I need to cut my ties here, I’m frightened in case it’s the wrong thing to do. I don’t want any regrets in later life.

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/10/2019 15:35

cherrypicker,

It would be the wrong thing to continue at all with a relationship that brings you, and for that matter your DD, no reward nor tangible benefits. Would you have tolerated any of this from a friend, no you would not. Your mother is no different.

Please also read about FOG (fear, obligation and guilt) because you appear to be mired in this. This is also stopping you here and holding you back.

theoriginalmadambee · 08/10/2019 15:47

OP as much as you don't like it, please listen to @AttilaTheMeerkat's posts.

You need to distance you and your dd. Get therapy, don't let you unsolved issues concerning your m get passed down to your dd.

Pinkbonbon · 08/10/2019 15:56

You might regret it but it wouldn't make it the wrong decision. Like a pps said, you love the idea of a 'mother' but the reality is, your mother will never live up to that idea of what a mother should be. So whether she is in your life or not, you'll always mourn the ideal, the dream. But you have to try remember that she, isn't that. She's a rotten person who will suck life and happiness from you. No matter what you do, you cannot fix it so that you have a good relationship with this person - Because she isn't capable of having a healthy relationship with anyone. And that's on her, not you.

But you can have a happy child and relationship with your child going forwards. Or, you can lose that too. That's the real gamble. The real thing you are risking.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 08/10/2019 16:18

@Cherrypicker01 - I want you to imagine that your best friend’s mum is treating her daughter the way your mum is treating you. What would you say to her?

You sound like a person who really cares about other people, and so I am guessing you would be fuming about the way your friend was being treated, and would tell your friend that she didn’t deserve any of that bad treatment. You’d be horrified, and sad for your friend, wouldn’t you.

Now you need to see that you deserve to be treated decently every bit as much as other people do, and there is nothing wrong with you pulling back from a person who is treating you so badly.

Your comment about your mum stealing from you when you were a child broke my heart. And it goes a long way to explaining why you are putting up with bad treatment from her now - she has trained you to accept this behaviour from her. It’s like the boiling frog analogy - if you put a frog in boiling water, it will jump straight out, but if you put it in cold water, and gradually heat it up, the frog doesn’t jump out because there is never that horrible shock of the hot water.

I agree with the other posters who have said you need to stop her child minding at your house any more, and you need to put some better boundaries in place. She will try to guilt trip you and will be angry (and may try to get other family members to put pressure on you - it is a classic of abusive people called ‘flying monkeys’), but you owe it to yourself and to your dh and dd to put you and them first, and to be firm about the boundaries.

You deserve to be treated much better than she is treating you. You are worth so much more. And you know how unacceptable her behaviour is - would you ever do anything like this to your dd? I can see the horror on your face at the mere thought of that, so I know you wouldn’t. So why don’t you deserve the same decent treatment your dd does?

ScabbyHorse · 08/10/2019 18:20

Please stop letting her look after your daughter. She is not keeping her physically safe (leaving the glass broken) or emotionally safe (all the other things you mentioned). Unfortunately I have experience of this and it hard to recognise but she has some kind of personality disorder, the stealing would point towards sociopath. You are stuck in a dysfunctional pattern here, you have to draw boundaries. Please get counselling as she will ramp things up and sounds dangerous.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 08/10/2019 18:24

OP with all your updates she sounds worse and worse.She is not a mother in any sense of the word. Her mental illness and her ways need to be addressed by experts. You are not responsible for her upkeep.I think you are still stuck in the cycle of abuse.If you are not careful you will loose your partner too.No one in their right mind would put up with what you do it is sheer madness.You have let her get away with too much.Do you for one minute think she is sorry for the way she is and has been all your life?No shes just carrying it on and you are sadly letting her.Its all wrong.I am sorry but she needs help.

Shoxfordian · 08/10/2019 18:34

Your mother is behaving awfully to you. She's totally out of order op.

Please look for some counselling for yourself to help you with this.

Have a look at the captain awkward website too, she gives great advice for family problems like this

thinkfast · 08/10/2019 19:00

OP can you please explain why you don't just make alternative childcare arrangements and you and your DD see your mum from time to time instead, if you find the current arrangement so dysfunctional?

It's your DD, your home, your rules.

Geppili · 08/10/2019 19:43

She said that she'd stick a feeding tube down your DD's throat????? This would make me feel very frightened. I would only let her be with your DD when you are around.

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