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My crappy childhood has just exploded

718 replies

DearTeddyRobinson · 04/08/2019 22:06

I'm on hols with DH, 2 DCs, and my parents. 6yo DS is being a pain in the arse. DH and I are dealing with it as best we can but it's hard. He's clearly driving my parents mad and they are not hiding it. Lots of snide little comments to him etc. Anyway today there was some kind of contretemps at the pool - I wasn't there.
Next thing I know, DS is running into the house sobbing hysterically, with my mother hot on his heels, my father close behind. They were shouting the odds about him being a spoiled brat, I started to get angry with them and told them to stop bullying him. Yelling escalates, father tells me to leave and go home. While I'm yelling back at my father, I hear a loud slap and a scream. I run back in to where DS is and my mother is pinching his face and leaning down right into his face, hissing something at him. I shout at her to leave him alone, she doesn't and continues to berate him.
I slap her in the face. All hell breaks loose.

So while I was growing up my parents were violent disciplinarians. They would shout at and slap and beat me whenever I transgressed. They used to team up so one could hold me down while the other hit me.
On one occasion I was dragged naked from the shower (I was a teen at this point) and beaten on the bathroom floor.
I never wanted my kids to think this was ok and by and large DH and I agree. But I have serious anger issues and somehow still think that hitting someone is the ultimate resolution (not the kids though).
I think today all of this fucked up mess came boiling over. DH is disgusted with me for hitting a 72 year old woman - understandably. (But not with her for hitting a 6 year old who had a red hand print on his bum).
We are leaving tomorrow, 3 days early.
DH is barely speaking to me. The kids are confused. I am sick with god knows what - rage, guilt, whatever.
Where the fuck do we go from here?

OP posts:
ContessaLovesTheSunshine · 05/08/2019 18:21

I'm sorry OP, for your horrible childhood and the difficulty you're having now. If it helps at all, I used to have dreams (proper out-of-my-control dreams) about beating the shit out of my mother. I enjoyed them.

Over time, there were less of them. I think her dying had a large amount to do with that though; it meant I didn't have to go through life trying to deal with her in both the past and the present anymore, and could just focus on resolving the past. That has helped a lot.

Flowers for you.

ThirdThoughts · 05/08/2019 18:30

I think that if you had abusive parents who no longer attack you physically it might be easy to hope they have changed or mellowed with age or that times have changed. Or that you blamed yourself for your abuse and felt your precious children were not at risk the way you were (as your sister was spared).

They have now shown you that these things are not the case. Their (terrible) physical abuse of you ceased because you got too old, big or moved out. And it wasn't anything to do with who you were but because they believe that is how children should be disciplined when they show regular kid behaviour. So your beloved children are at risk, and you have (unconsciously) let your child/children believe they are normal, good grandparents by letting them be involved.

It's a big thing emotionally once you are a parent to re-evaluate how your parents treated you in light of your own love for your children and understand more fully that it wasn't your fault and how wrongly they behaved. You were just as innocent as your child is and their abuse was not justified.

I think you acted proportionately. She had to be stopped, because she would not stop herself. You acted in the defense of your child and did not launch an uncontrolled attack upon her despite your strong feelings.

You taught your son to stand up for someone being bullied. You taught your son he was worth defending.

Be proud not ashamed. Cut contact. Talk through these issues with a professional. Take care.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 05/08/2019 18:34

I'd have slapped or pushed her away too. She's not a sweet old lady, she's someone who abused the OP for years and thought it ok to start on her grandchild. In the heat of the moment I'm not surprised OP smacked her one. She knows what her hideous mother is capable of and defended her child from it. To slap a grandmother may seem outrageous in normal circumstances but not with this back story.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:43

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:44

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:44

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:44

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:45

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:45

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:46

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:46

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:46

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:46

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:47

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 18:47

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 05/08/2019 18:55

My dh didn’t get how abusive my mum was until she slipped up lying to him about something and he started to see below the surface. It’s hard for others to understand parental abuse if they come from a nice family.

I would never see your parents again and I would have a sit down with your dh and a counsellor and if he doesn’t get it after that then he’s doing it on purpose to punish you.

Lilacpheonix · 05/08/2019 19:05

I cannot believe some of the responses on here. Insinuating OP is worse for slapping her mother when the woman was abusing a six year old!

Just think for a second how tiny a six year old is for one minute.

If the 72 year old woman could give it out, she can bloody get it back. Slapping her once is bloody restrained in my opinion.

You saw your child under attack and you reacted as any natural mother would.

I wonder if some of the naysayers would sit idly by while someone was physically attacking their child. I doubt it.

billy1966 · 05/08/2019 19:18

OP, I hope you are ok.

Neither my husband or myself have ever laid hands on anyone.

However, I know that if someone, an adult was to viciously slap any of my children, I honestly can't imagine what either of us would do.

Your parents are so awful.

I can't imagine how stressful it must have been for you, having been so brutalized as a child, to see your Mother turn on your little son in such a vicious way, despite being shouted at to stop.

Your mother is lucky to have gotten away with just a slap.

No judgement from me at all. I believe it was a 💯 proportionate response and I can't imagine in the real world I am alone.

Your husband sounds like such a waste of space.
I couldn't look at my husband again if he stood by in a situation like that.

Wishing you strength.

TheSheepofWallSt · 05/08/2019 19:25

OP, you poor darling.
You are a victim. You are in no way - NO way to blame for what happened. Seeing your son physically harmed by your abuser of course triggered you.
I think you need to see a therapist- and speak to your son. Be as honest with him as you can. Let him understand that violence is cyclical- and you are working to break that cycle.
And go NC with your parents. They’re vile.
Flowers for you. And love x

justasking111 · 05/08/2019 19:58

I think we need to remember on mumsnet that some of these mums are grannies who may once have thought administering a good beating was perfectly ok and it never did their kids any harm. Hence their attitude to the OP slapping her mother.

catofdoom · 05/08/2019 20:04

@justasking111 yes!; if someone treated my dog like that I'd probably snap and slap them. If they did it to my nearly 6 year old ds I don't know what I'd do.

yikesanddang · 05/08/2019 20:24

Does DH hit your DS? Because I am wondering why he isn't going apoplectic at your DM for hitting him. If anyone touched my dc in a violent way, the my rage would be uncontrollable.

Jux · 05/08/2019 21:29

OP, I'm wondering the same as yikesanddang.

I can't imagine dh being OK with someone treating our dd like that, at any age. I expect he'd be ready to at least slap someone who behaved like that toward her even when he's in his 90s! He and I both had almost idyllic childhoods, so we wouldn't be reacting to early trauma either.

He needs to be as up front with you as you should be with him. There's something not right about his reaction.

saraclara · 05/08/2019 21:42

@justasking111
I was abused in pretty much exactly the same way as the OP (though my father wasn't involved)

It's because I endured that, that I can't begin to ever condone anyone hitting anyone else, child or adult, for any reason.

I would go ballistic if my mother laid a hand on my child. But no. I wouldn't slap her across the face. That would make me as bad as she was to me. She'd be thrown out of my house, and all my attention would be given to my child.

So don't assume anything about other people, whatever their age.

LizzieSiddal · 05/08/2019 22:18

Does DH hit your DS?

I asked the OP that question yesterday, she may have missed my post, but it didn’t get answered.

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