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These things have happened. Am I being sensitive?

251 replies

Tumbleweedmoments · 01/08/2019 09:04

Not sure if I’m being too sensitive and reading in to things. My DP of 5 months has started saying the following things:

Am I going to get a fake tan for holiday? I’ve said no a few times as for me personally I just don’t like actually getting it done, although I get the effects can look good! It’s just not for me.

Am I going to get a full wax? I do have hair down there and maybe a little more than most but it’s not overgrown and I keep it trim! He’s offered to pay and brings it up every week or so.

He’s told me he doesn’t know any women who would want a hairy arsehole. He’s only ventured there a couple of times but there’s no way I would wax it! I’ve told him this.

Why don’t I wear heels to work? Apparently every woman does. I have heels in the office and sometimes wear them if I feel like it. I’ve explained I never wear them to commute as it’s painful.

Why don’t I have a particular type of handbag that all girls have? This I found strange and just told him I couldn’t afford it and the handbag I have is actually far nicer and more expensive (not that that maters!)

Once during sex he was slipping out as I was on the bed and he wasn’t. He kept pulling me into him to reposition while sighing and getting annoyed asking why I kept moving away. I wasn’t, it was just the bed. He then pulled out in a rage when I got upset and wouldn’t speak to me.

Went to the beach for the day last week and on the way back we stopped at a bar. As we pulled up he asked if I was putting any male up on. I said no as I hadn’t brought any with me to the beach. He shook his head and said I knew we were stopping on the way back and this is a nice place he wanted to take me (I had known we were stopping). In the past at uni I would definitely had taken my make up. These days I am less bothered (I wear it a lot but don’t feel the need on a beach day). Maybe I am losing myself and he has a point? I would never have done that years ago with any of my ex’s. Perhaps men don’t like it in general and it’s not misty my DP.

He can be really kind and generous. He’s not mean with money and does nice things like cooks a nice meal or little surprises here and there. It is confusing and leads me to feel it’s my fault he is like this. I am quite emotionally aware and so it is possible I am being really sensitive like he says I am. I do pick up on things and read into things. I don’t want to ruin a relationship because I’m not relaxed enough, I want to work on that if it’s not fault or I am partly to blame. Please don’t hold back in your opinions. I need to know if this is me and how I can change my mindset. Thank you.

OP posts:
mindutopia · 01/08/2019 12:52

He sounds like an idiot. My dh has literally never once said any of those things to me. And nor has any other guy I've ever dated. I would bin him. He seems really shallow.

Flashesofrage · 01/08/2019 13:04

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missbattenburg · 01/08/2019 13:07

he doesn’t know any women who would want a hairy arsehole

He's right there. Can't stand them myself so suggest you get rid of yours by dumping him.

CodenameVillanelle · 01/08/2019 13:11

He's trying to control and manipulate you. He's not a nice person.

SignedUpJust4This · 01/08/2019 13:12

He's either controlling abusive arsehole or a secret cross dresser looking for style and beauty tips. I suspect the former. Ltb.

Kitty1184 · 01/08/2019 13:14

Tell him to piss off and shag a Barbie doll if that's what he likes the look of

MegaMonsterMunch · 01/08/2019 13:17

Red flags galore

chilledteacher · 01/08/2019 13:24

You do have a hairy asshole to lose but it isn't your anus. LTB Thanks

misskatamari · 01/08/2019 13:27

Oh my god, he sounds absolutely terrible! Run for the hills! He is NOT a nice person. This will get worse, and you will doubt yourself more and more. So many red flags!

Illberidingshotgun · 01/08/2019 13:35

He should think that you are absolutely beautiful as you are. He doesn't. He wants to control you, and turn you into his view of what the perfect woman should be. He's lovely to you at other times to make you doubt yourself. This is ABUSIVE behaviour. Please get out of this relationship. End it today if you can. Think about why you are even considering staying in a relationship with an abuser.

user1479305498 · 01/08/2019 13:36

OP, he seems to need a robot not a living individual, what next ‘most women have thick black coco the clown eyebrows’, most women watch Love Island, most women are ok with anal these days.personally I would move on but if you don’t want to then I would say, ‘you either like me as I am or not at all, how I dress and groom will be up to me and I don’t appreciate ‘helpful suggestions’. He will either take it on board and realise he hasn’t gone way too far get all uppity , at which point, end it— this wont end well!!

SandAndSea · 01/08/2019 13:38

OP, we're all helping you to build up some confidence and momentum here.

Please hear this:

It will never be easier than now for you to end this relationship!

dontgobaconmyheart · 01/08/2019 13:41

Oh OP, just no! This man is pathetic and a sexist, who seems to believe women (and you especially as his partner) exist as arm candy and to provide him sexual services.

He is abusive by treating you the way he is for sure. Nothing else he does matters or makes up for that, he is not redeemable.

Please consider whether you really believe you are worth this or want this life doe yourself long term. I would not stay with or allow children around any person who spoke this way towards or about women. His opinion does nothing but show him up as a pitiful excuse for a person.

Isatis · 01/08/2019 13:44

Why would he say the mask is slipping, while upset, if he wasn’t a genuinely nice person deep down.

No, that means the opposite. He's naturally an abusive, controlling arsehole, the mask has been covering that up.

Chanellta · 01/08/2019 13:46

God he sounds a prat. Just finish it and move on

AloneLonelyLoner · 01/08/2019 13:59

Oh this OP is really upsetting. It made me go cold all over.

This gets worse.

Please listen to the women here OP. Please. We know of what we speak.
He is an abusive man.
An Abuser.
Leave while it is still easy to do so.
Please.

Mumsymumphy · 01/08/2019 14:00

Say to him "I've decided to get rid of my hairy arsehole - so fuck off, there you go, bye!"

LauraMipsum · 01/08/2019 14:01

Book him in for a full back sack and crack wax here: www.boyzilians.com

and then get them to use fake tan to write "you're dumped" artfully across his chest.

Pinkbonbon · 01/08/2019 14:13

Its actually pretty common for narcissists to tell you exactly what they are. I had an ex that flat out said 'my ex called me a narcissist'. Dated someone briefly that said straight out he was one too (before I had a clue what they were)..and yeah, actions confirmed it.

So things like 'my ex says I hit her', 'I'm a bad person', 'the mask is slipping' are all things they might say. They tell us for two reasons. One: to test us - They want us to say 'no you're not a bad person/you'd never do that'. Or two: for the fun of it, for the buzz of telling someone exactly what they are, knowing the person is too 'stupid' to believe them. Making them feel oh so smart and powerful.

Sparky888 · 01/08/2019 14:18

Also his view of what ‘all women are like’ is misogynistic. We are all different. I’d start telling him what all men are like and questioning why he doesn’t conform. It’s very rude that he thinks his view of what you should do is worth voicing. I don’t know if that’s possible to remedy, it would make me feel like shit.

Pinkbonbon · 01/08/2019 14:19

Also, think about the phrase 'the mask is slipping'. Its very specific. Its a phrase used when talking about cluster b personalities and abusers. Suggesting, someone has called him out on being a narcissist before so he's done his research. Or/and suggesting he is very aware that he has been faking niceness to this point.

I agree it is chilling.

ohfourfoxache · 01/08/2019 14:22

Run like fuck.

If it was you being over sensitive you can be damned sure that MN would tell you.

EKGEMS · 01/08/2019 14:29

What do I say? When he says "most women don't like a hairy arsehole" then dump him and the hairy arsehole is gone! Ask him when he'll wax his privates, grow three inches taller,drop fifty pounds and have a bigger penis as women think bigger is better!

Frouby · 01/08/2019 14:29

I had a boyfriend like this in my early 20s. He chipped away and chipped away and chipped away at my confidence. Examples including wear more make up, wear this underwear, wear this outfit, wax, have beauty treatments that then escalated to don't hang around with this girl, she's common (she was and still is my best mate), don't go to X club it's too rough, don't wear that outfit it's too revealing.

The final straw was him asking me if I felt self conscious sunbathing topless on holiday with my enourmous breasts on show. I was a size 10 with DD boobs, so although busty at 22 my boobs were actually fucking amazing and pert and lovely.

I realised that not only was he a controlling twat he was jealous, insecure and cared more about what other people thought than what I thought.

I dumped him, had a fabulous time on holiday and he ended up in a right mess. Haven't seen him or even thought about him for years, but at the time I was absolutely besotted by him.

Run away as fast as you can.

Sally2791 · 01/08/2019 14:30

Get rid asap don’t look back