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Everyone who said DH would leave and have a baby with her was right

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Worriedandconfused2 · 23/07/2019 15:00

I posted on here months ago under a different name, about my DH messgaing and flirting with his ex, his 'one that got away'. I got loads of good advice here even though lots of it was painful to read at the time.

I would love to be able to say I was the strong role model for my DD and threw him out after his disrespect, but of course I wasn't. We tried counselling which I didn't find very helpful, the counsellor seemed more interested in exploring why DH didn't feel able to get over his ex so we spent one session that was just me listening to him praising all her wonderful attributes which made me feel 1000 times worse and I'm afraid made me give up on it shortly afterwards.

Anyway we limped on mostly as if nothing had happened but everything had happened, I felt on edge and sad and sick all the time inside and every time he went away for work, in the city his ex moved to a month or so after Christmas, I pictured them together. And it turns out I was right. In early May something happened which came to a head and I demanded to see his phone. Eventually after a huge row about it he gave in and handed it over. He'd deleted Messenger and Whatsapp after I'd found the first lot of messages and promised not to reinstall them which was true but I found another messaging app I'd never even heard of, tucked away in an innocuous folder. It only had about a week's worth of messages but they were filthy. Photos, videos of both of them that they'd sent to each other, more explicit than you can imagine. I still feel sick and start shaking to think of it, I'll never get some of those images out of my head.

Funnily enough even he couldn't deny it any longer in the face of that and again I'm not proud to say I begged him to give her up, I sobbed and pleaded and promised him things I'm embarrassed and furious with myself to recall. But he didn't, he left and for the past two and a half months he's been living with her in her shagger's paradise flat, and last week he told me she's pregnant. Pregnant with the baby I always wanted, DD's an only because DH never wanted more children. He was shame faced telling me but it was like there was a big beam of pride and pleasure waiting to break through underneath and he let slip far more than I wanted to know which leaves me in no doubt it's a planned and wanted baby. I knew she wanted children because that's why she broke up with her ex-H and she's in her 30st, but my DH supposedly didn't want any more. When what he really meant was he didn't want any more with me.

How do I cope with the pain, and the anger? I know it's a cliche, and I know I should probably have got angry sooner, but it's like a wave crashes over me and I'm just raging, I want to break stuff and punch him and then next minute I'm breathless with pain all over again. I have to try and hold it all together for DD but not bad-mouthing him is literally the hardest thing I've ever done when I'm in the grip of this pure burning rage. I feel like a boat being tossed from one emotion to the other and I don't know if or how I'm ever going to feel normal again. It's like hes stolen the other child I shoudl have had and given it to HER instead. And I know I shouldn't torture myself but I ca't get the image of them having unprotected sex together out of my head, hoping to conceive and all the business with the pregnancy test, all happy and laughing together and I didn't have any of that, DD was unplanned and it was all a shock and oh shit and wondering briefly if I should have a termination and much as he truly loves DD now, he wouldn't have been heartbroken if I had done and now he's doing the happy expectant father stuff with another woman.

And how the hell do I tell my lovely, bright, special, warm hearted, gentle 10yo DD that the Dad she worships is never coming home because he's having a baby, her half-sister with another woman??

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Lweji · 23/07/2019 15:49

And how the hell do I tell my lovely, bright, special, warm hearted, gentle 10yo DD that the Dad she worships is never coming home because he's having a baby, her half-sister with another woman??

You don't.

If you choose to tell her, then tell her that adults fall in and out of love and they change their minds about who they want to live with, but that he is and will always be her dad and loves her very much (you won't have to keep saying it if he turns out to be a bad non-resident dad).

She doesn't need to know about the pregnancy unless it's showing already.

Don't make demands on whether she meets her dad's new partner or not. Leave it up to him.

Deathraystare · 23/07/2019 15:49

Don't feel embarrassed or ashamed at the lengths you went to to try and keep your marriage, you did all you could. When the dust settles and he finds she is not so great after all, and he crawls back, remember what he put you through (the bastard) and tell him you made a huge mistake marrying him and you are so glad you have now seen sense!

MsDogLady · 23/07/2019 15:52

Worried, I commented on your original thread and asked about you about a month later. I am so very sorry.

I would suggest finding a top notch counselor to help you get through this.

Worriedandconfused2 · 23/07/2019 15:52

Sorry I didn't make it clear, he has been having DD but on the nights she's with him he stays in a flat his employer keeps in that city for their staff's use, and I know it's true because DD FaceTimes me from there.

One of the good things that came from the advice I got on the previous thread was that I did start to get myself a bit more sorted and do a bit more for myself, which I had been planning to do but never got round to because it wasn't a priority before I found DH's original messages to her. I've got a job interview at the end of enxt week which is terrifying after years of being a SAHM. And to be fair to DH he has been paying at least his fair share and said last week that this won't change anything finacially because he doesn't want DD to go without, apparently one of the things he likes about HER is that she doesn;t need his money and she's already said she can afford to have this baby without taking anything from DD blah blah she's so perfect and understanding I could just vomit.

You're right rightteous, I need to toughen up or I'm not going to get through this. DD is young for her age and we probably have been guilty of babying her a bit.

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 23/07/2019 15:52

So sorry OP, I’ve been through the affair thing but not the baby.
You need to carve out the space where you can get angry and cry and get all your a motions out.
Does your dd have any good friends where she can go for a day and a night so that you are allowed to fall apart in privacy?
I would also recommend counselling. You need a safe space for you where you can be 100% honest about how you feel and not be putting on a “ brave face” for the outside world.
I would actually tell your dd yourself; not to save your stbxh put to protect your dd.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 23/07/2019 15:54

Just seen that your dd already has overnights with her dad.
At least he is keeping her away from the ow.

Worriedandconfused2 · 23/07/2019 15:54

SandyY2K yes that was me Sad BBJE.

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Pantolilies · 23/07/2019 15:56

Your pain is so palpable, I am very sorry. Is it too late for you to have another child?.

flissity · 23/07/2019 15:56

Just a comment from another person who's dh had affair and left.

You will get through this, it may not seem like that right now. Telling my girls was awful. But thy are now well rounded girls ages 8/10.
He (on other hand) does look unhappy and stressed a lot. But he made his bed!

Worriedandconfused2 · 23/07/2019 15:57

Thank you MrsDogLady I remember you gave some brilliant advice, I just wish I'd been better at following it.

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EileenAlanna · 23/07/2019 15:58

When she's up to her elbows in shitty nappies & baby sick the "magic" will start to wane. As another pp pointed out, all that fantasy-fulfilling sex will take a nose dive & he'll be back to what ordinary mortals have. Tbh I imagine the day to day reality of living with someone will kick in soon enough & the paragon he's built up in his head over the years will turn out to have the feet of clay we all have. She'll probably discover that about him too.
Let him explain to your DD why he's buggered off. He can clean up his own mess.

historysock · 23/07/2019 16:00

What an absolute pair of bastards...
I'm
So sorry op.

Counselling for you. And for dd. You need help with this. Fucking awful.

Nothingcomesforfree · 23/07/2019 16:01

Horrible. I said it on another thread but remember you aren’t the first or last. It’s hideously painful when your one special person treats you so badly. It’s a very real pain.
I found it helpful to minimise it - the relationship served a purpose and it’s time had come. I didn’t really get over him for years but it made going forward easier.
I agree with however said there love palace won’t be quite so romantic with a baby in the picture. No one knows what the future will bring so don’t assume they’ll be happy or miserable or whatever. No one knows. So as everyone says work on what will make your life better - money, friends, wine, lose weight, whatever empowers you.

WhatTheAbsoluteFuck · 23/07/2019 16:04

Fuck that OP, HE needs to tell DD. This is his news, not yours. Let him deal with however DD reacts to this. Let him see how he’s made his DD feel, first hand.

alligatorsmile · 23/07/2019 16:12

I god, I remember the BBJE thread, I am so so sorry this has happened to you.

There will be a time when you are feeling stronger, when you genuinely don't want him back in your life, when you have truly moved on and life has settled into a nice rhythm with you and DD as a unit of 2. Try to picture that and hold onto it - you will get there some day.

Can you go and buy a load of cheap china plates etc. and smash them all up?

CardinalBurns · 23/07/2019 16:12

What a pair of cunts 😠
He needs to tell dd.

SandyY2K · 23/07/2019 16:13

SandyY2K yes that was me sad BBJE.

Oh dear. I'm sorry about that.

Well, the good thing is you started thinking about yourself and your future.

In your mind you have him on a pedestal. It's time to change that way of thinking and invest your energy into you and DD.

2.5 month of living together and she's immediately pregnant....that the know the sex of the baby. No time wasted there.

You deserve to be loved and the number one woman. In time, you will heal from this. Do not let him define your future relationships.

He was cowardly for marrying you when he knew he still loved her.

He could have been a dad without marrying you when you fell pregnant.

Any mention of divorce yet. You have clear grounds for divorce with her being pregnant.

It's in your best interest financially to do it while your a SAHM.

alligatorsmile · 23/07/2019 16:13

And YY to getting some counselling. You are going through a kind of bereavement: grief for the life you thought you would all have.

The heartless arsehole, I hope it rots and drops off.

HeatwaveBaby · 23/07/2019 16:15

sorry this has happened to you. And don't feel bad about the way you begged and pleaded - it's normal. Losing a relationship like this has stages of pleading, disbelief, anger, resentment so all of those are normal. And the added in baby makes it so much worse.

You're already doing better than you think you are. Keep going, hold your head up high.

OldJoseph · 23/07/2019 16:19

I don't think it will last, sounds like she's keener on having babies than being with him.

Also re: difficult conversations...What exactly will they tell this DC when he or she is old enough to ask about your DD and you? I wouldn't have much respect for my parents if their relationship started as an affair. That's in the future of course, but something to think about.

In the meantime you'll get lots of excellent advice on here.

Babdoc · 23/07/2019 16:20

If this OW was such a bloody wonderful soulmate, how come she was an ex? Obviously, their relationship broke up/fell apart once already. I’d lay good money it will again, especially with a screaming baby and no sleep.
For goodness sake don’t even consider taking the twerp back if that happens, OP!
I also think that he should be the one to explain to your DD why he has dumped you and her, broken his marriage vows and gone off to live with someone else. Why should you do his dirty work for him.
Ride your anger, be strong, and rebuild your life without the tosser.
Show him that you don’t care, and are better off without him, even if you don’t feel like that to start with.
I hope life soon starts to improve for you, OP. Good luck.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 23/07/2019 16:21

Oh GOD MATE I didn’t realise you were the OP from BBJE.

Oh god, I’m so so very sorry - he’s trash and she’s just as bad. Trash squared.

readitandwept · 23/07/2019 16:21

I remember your previous thread and I'm sorry.

He only left at the beginning of May. How early can you find out the sex of a baby these days? Confused Are you sure this baby was planned?

SMellisa · 23/07/2019 16:22

I remember your original post.

I am so so sorry it has gone this was for you. Please listen to us all here to at least try and make you feel better.

I cant remember if you said you had any family to help support you and DD in terms of emotional support?

The only advice I can give you is please try just try and keep yourself busy, with DD as much as you can. Do things you enjoy, spend time with the people you love. If it helps, get rid of your social media, do NOT look them up as much as it would be tempting. That will only make you feel worse. xxx

exwhyzed · 23/07/2019 16:24

one of the things he likes about HER is that she doesn;t need his money and she's already said she can afford to have this baby without taking anything from DD

Well that won't last long. He's going to get a nasty shock when a couple of years down the line her resentment boils over about him paying for your child and 'maintaining' your 'lifestyle' and not doing the same for her. Meanwhile she's gone part time, isn't earning anything like what she used to and barely breaks even after childcare... and that's before she finds she is shouldering the wifework burden too because he's used to having a SAHM running round after him.

Bless them actually, it's pretty doomed most likely and no one is going to have any sympathy for them.

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