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"You are short and thick"

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Nadia86 · 20/06/2019 19:58

Hi. First time poster here. Need some advice or perspective. I realise people have real problems and this is probably nothing but I am lost and really not sure what to do.
Have been with my boyfriend just over a year .Great relationship ,partnership I would say ,no issues at all. Until this week. We do not live together ,we are happy as we are.
We talk all the time on the phone ,whatsapp as we live in different places ,half an hour away train journey. We see each other 2-3 times a week –again it suits us fine.
Two days ago we were talking about my country of origin on whatsapp and I said my looks indicate where I come from (facial features etc no need for detail here).To which he responded that he didn’t think I was tall enough –he pictured women from my country to be tall and slim and I am “short and thick”! I got annoyed and told him so and was not very chatty with him all day that day but didn’t discuss it any further as I wanted to see him on Wednesday (as we previously planned) to discuss what he said and why I thought it wasn’t nice.
The next day we just had a casual chat on whatsapp as usual and I said to him why his comment was unnecessary and that I couldn’t believe he didn’t get it. He responded with ……a gallery of screen shots of “thick” Instagram models (curvy pretty girls but not skinny ) saying “I stand by what I said –you are not skinny”. To which I replied that I am more than aware of what I look like and that it is not necessary for him to point it out. And then I mentioned about me coming over tonight and said I would like us to have dinner etc and we could discuss it ,I could explain my point of view and just see each other. He told me to give it a miss and that if he is making me so insecure then we both need to give it some thought…. That was yesterday afternoon .Not heard anything since. Spoke to a few friends and decided to give him time.

Wtf????? I am struggling to see where I went wrong here apart from pointing out I didn’t like the comment and that I wanted to explain to him why.
Not sure what the hell this silence from him means. This has never happened before. We are both 35,mature adults who have not had any issues like that before.
My issue is - I am still just as insecure as any other woman is. I am a UK size 8/10,very fit, healthy and attractive (don’t mean to sound in love with myself as that’s not the case). I am awesome! I know I am not tall and slim and I am thick and curvy but I am who I am . I look good. He loves my body and I love his. He is healthy ,fit and we both have the same goals in regards to our health and fitness and we support each other. Not sure why he tried so hard to tell me /prove to me that I am not skinny! To do his stupid instagram research to prove his point as if I didn’t get what he was saying first time around.
And whats worst –I haven’t heard from him since yesterday. Not sure what the hell is going on. Spoke to some friends – different ideas here as what happened-he is in a huff because I was in a huff (lol). He is trying to show me who is the boss and that I am wrong. 3-He knows he did wrong and does not want to admit it. Honestly I am lost. Cant stand this silence.I am pissed off and want to tell him that but will not do it over a text. One friend suggested he is acting like a child and playing games (again it has never happened before). Other friend told me to ignore it. But I am too angry and sad at the same time to leave it like this. What do I do?????

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AllOverIt · 29/06/2019 08:11

Glad to hear you're doing okay OP. I agree that this is the last vestiges of control over you. Stay strong.

Moralitym1n1 · 29/06/2019 08:18

He then proceeded to text that he is still not sure what to say to his kids

I've been on the fence about him/the relationship from what we know (obviously we only get a snippet/snap shot on here) throughout; but on this comment from him ... What's the isdue? If he accepts the relationship's over and is not trying to save it (as he hasn't appeared to be doing), why is he even mentioning this to you? Are you his mammy/advisor - just say "unfortunately Nadia and I aren't seeing each other any more" - does it take a ticket scientist to think of something like that.

I don't think he really means "what do I tell them", it's more of a delaying/teaching out to you thing ... Yet he still won't just communicate about your fall out/relationship, which is irritating (well I find it irritating).

Moralitym1n1 · 29/06/2019 08:18

*rocket scientist

Moralitym1n1 · 29/06/2019 08:19

*reaching out

Nadia86 · 29/06/2019 08:36

I agree @Moralitym1n1 not sure why he is telling me these things.

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Nadia86 · 29/06/2019 08:38

I liked the „ticket scientist” hahaha @Moralitym1n1

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Moralitym1n1 · 29/06/2019 10:34

My phone has the weirdest autocorrect Confused.

motherofcats81 · 29/06/2019 12:32

I'd probably say: "whatever you told them when we had plans to spend the weekend together and instead you decided to blank me for days on end".

Nadia86 · 29/06/2019 12:34

Haha good one @motherofcats81;)

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lifebegins50 · 29/06/2019 12:44

Well played Nadia. The comments to his children are supposed to be guilt inducing or a test of your reaction. I think he wants to know you are upset as that would confirm his superiority. The comment re sunny day is just to let you know where his priorities are, incase you thought he cared.

When someone is power orientated this is their behaviour. I recommend Lundys "why does he do that" and verbally abusive relationships by Patricia Evan's. Just very useful as it discusses why some people are power orientated in a relationship. If you are not like this then you can't comprehend their thinking so this gives an insight.

TheInebriati · 29/06/2019 12:59

Gavin de Becker says ''Nice is not a characteristic or personality trait, it's an choice.'' And its one used by abusive men to charm us.

You can download these or read them online;
Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker
tinyurl.com/GiftoFear

Lundy Bancroft - why does he do that?
tinyurl.com/LundyWhy

LMou · 29/06/2019 15:27

Enjoy your holiday @Nadia86

Personally I’d text what motherofcats suggested. But then I’d block.

Whackitupto200 · 29/06/2019 15:30

It is like he is trying to talk about practicalities to keep in touch and also to control the last thing he can control ( dropping my things off) and now there is nothing left for him to text about

You definitely have the measure of him OP.

Keep doing what you’re doing.

justilou1 · 30/06/2019 02:21

“Tell them that you were a controlling arsehole and I deserve better than that, so I dumped your arse.”

justilou1 · 30/06/2019 02:23

BTW, am very proud of you for not being manipulated!!! He’s being a real jerk!!!

Nadia86 · 30/06/2019 06:33

Thank you guys ! 😃🌸

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Redland12 · 09/07/2019 17:05

Hey Nadia86, how are thing?

Nadia86 · 10/07/2019 17:43

Im ok thanks for asking @Redland12.Still away.Been having a good time and didnt drunk text him haha.

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AzraiL · 10/07/2019 17:53

Did he mean thick? Or thicc? And was him showing you those instagram models his weird way of trying to show you that it's not a bad thing?

He's either testing you or he needs to really work on his style of communication. Because either way that was awkward.

AzraiL · 10/07/2019 17:59

Sorry, obviously commented without reading the updates. Apologies!

Redland12 · 10/07/2019 23:01

Oh well done you! Drunk texting is the worst. I’m so pleased your having a good time. 🌺

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