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"You are short and thick"

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Nadia86 · 20/06/2019 19:58

Hi. First time poster here. Need some advice or perspective. I realise people have real problems and this is probably nothing but I am lost and really not sure what to do.
Have been with my boyfriend just over a year .Great relationship ,partnership I would say ,no issues at all. Until this week. We do not live together ,we are happy as we are.
We talk all the time on the phone ,whatsapp as we live in different places ,half an hour away train journey. We see each other 2-3 times a week –again it suits us fine.
Two days ago we were talking about my country of origin on whatsapp and I said my looks indicate where I come from (facial features etc no need for detail here).To which he responded that he didn’t think I was tall enough –he pictured women from my country to be tall and slim and I am “short and thick”! I got annoyed and told him so and was not very chatty with him all day that day but didn’t discuss it any further as I wanted to see him on Wednesday (as we previously planned) to discuss what he said and why I thought it wasn’t nice.
The next day we just had a casual chat on whatsapp as usual and I said to him why his comment was unnecessary and that I couldn’t believe he didn’t get it. He responded with ……a gallery of screen shots of “thick” Instagram models (curvy pretty girls but not skinny ) saying “I stand by what I said –you are not skinny”. To which I replied that I am more than aware of what I look like and that it is not necessary for him to point it out. And then I mentioned about me coming over tonight and said I would like us to have dinner etc and we could discuss it ,I could explain my point of view and just see each other. He told me to give it a miss and that if he is making me so insecure then we both need to give it some thought…. That was yesterday afternoon .Not heard anything since. Spoke to a few friends and decided to give him time.

Wtf????? I am struggling to see where I went wrong here apart from pointing out I didn’t like the comment and that I wanted to explain to him why.
Not sure what the hell this silence from him means. This has never happened before. We are both 35,mature adults who have not had any issues like that before.
My issue is - I am still just as insecure as any other woman is. I am a UK size 8/10,very fit, healthy and attractive (don’t mean to sound in love with myself as that’s not the case). I am awesome! I know I am not tall and slim and I am thick and curvy but I am who I am . I look good. He loves my body and I love his. He is healthy ,fit and we both have the same goals in regards to our health and fitness and we support each other. Not sure why he tried so hard to tell me /prove to me that I am not skinny! To do his stupid instagram research to prove his point as if I didn’t get what he was saying first time around.
And whats worst –I haven’t heard from him since yesterday. Not sure what the hell is going on. Spoke to some friends – different ideas here as what happened-he is in a huff because I was in a huff (lol). He is trying to show me who is the boss and that I am wrong. 3-He knows he did wrong and does not want to admit it. Honestly I am lost. Cant stand this silence.I am pissed off and want to tell him that but will not do it over a text. One friend suggested he is acting like a child and playing games (again it has never happened before). Other friend told me to ignore it. But I am too angry and sad at the same time to leave it like this. What do I do?????

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justilou1 · 24/06/2019 22:07

Good for you!!! No man should leave you dangling like that, waiting for HIM to be ready to admit he was s little bit of a dick... I’m so proud of you for realizing that you want and deserve better treatment in your future relationships!
X Good Luck!!!

Abillity2019 · 24/06/2019 22:30

This won’t be the last you hear from him I’m sure so keep strong.

Hattie78 · 24/06/2019 22:53

Just read the whole thread so too late for any advice but I just wanted to say good luck to you, OP. You've done the right thing - he wasn't treating you in the way you deserve to be treated.
Enjoy your holiday xxx

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 22:55

I just need to survive this week and then Im away so should be ok .So sad that a silly comment led to all this but I guess it was meant to be Sad

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Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 22:56

Thank you all Flowers

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ShagMeRiggins · 24/06/2019 23:18

among so many other things needed for a good relationship, how a couple deals with conflict is right up there, and sometimes two people just aren't a good fit

I’m still learning, samyeagar, as we all should be with relationships. It seems a silly thing to break up over.

OP, my husband and I were “great” for eleven years, but never learned how to manage conflict. It had a terrible impact on our relationship. Four years on we are much better, but it takes a lot of work, and many changes.

Maybe think about why you were willing to end it over text (after a year?!) and why you wanted to strike the first blow.

I am coming to terms with the idea that a sustainable relationship is one where each person “puts the other first.” Think about it?

Everything will be all right, one way or another, and I do wish you the best.

Lipz · 24/06/2019 23:20

Aww I'm glad you took charge, I'm sad for you that you are now going through the heartbreak of a breakup, his loss, however you will get through this, you are a very strong person and look forward to your holiday and let your hair down and I really wish you the very best in your future

Honeyroar · 24/06/2019 23:34

You sound strong enough to get through this week.

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 23:40

@ShagMeRiggins thank you.Lots to think about.I did get hurt in the past and I think that perphaps my intolerance is very low too.And it just didnt feel right for me,staying together.I dont know. Perphaps in a while I will look back and come to some useful conclusions and I will get better myself whatever that means- communication etc.

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carla1983 · 24/06/2019 23:46

Yes @ShagMeRiggins but in order to be able to handle conflict well, both people need to meet halfway. Was your husband disappearing for the best part of a week and refusing to discuss minor things?

OP did everything she could, in my view, short of begging him not to dump her.

Personally I think she did the right thing.

The fact that he did not react at all to her text, apart from to say OK shows how much he cared.

carla1983 · 24/06/2019 23:47

"I am coming to terms with the idea that a sustainable relationship is one where each person “puts the other first.” Think about it? "

@ShagMeRiggins also you are assuming he was "putting her first".

PicsInRed · 25/06/2019 00:07

This guy puts the "dic" in predictable.

Good work, OP.
Tell him his key is at the local police station.
Blockity block block block.

Nadia86 · 25/06/2019 00:11

@PicsInRed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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bluebell34567 · 25/06/2019 00:15

sorry op but it seems he has someone else lined up. but it is good escape for you, he doesnt seem nice.

WonderingHowToChangeThis · 25/06/2019 06:31

Well done. I also think you've done the right thing.

My exh used to do similar. It was a control thing but it's also no way to behave in an adult relationship.

I don't necessarily think his response indicates there is someone else lined up - I think that's a bit of a leap, it's more likely to be that he realises he fucked up and is accepting your position on it. It may be that he was going to end it anyway but I think that, if he were angry, he'd have a lot more than "ok" to say about it.

Have a lovely holiday.

Proteinshakesandtears · 25/06/2019 06:53

See if someone dumped me by text, after I stopped and ignored them for the better part of a week, but regretted the way I had acted.

I would have text OP something like 'Ok, I get that. I would like to say I am really sorry though. I know I should have acted like that. But understand your position. I am happy to drop your stuff off. Or you can collect it while I am out and leave the key. Again, I am sorry'

When someone has broken up with me, I have never ever tried to convince them why they should stay with me. But I would apologise if I thought my behaviour was wrong, even while accepting it's over.

His text to me, says that he doesnt think he is wrong for acting how he did. He doesnt regret it or think he was wrong to act how he did. He had probably come to the same conclusion as OP. It wasnt going to work.

WonderingHowToChangeThis · 25/06/2019 07:05

See if someone dumped me by text, after I stopped and ignored them for the better part of a week, but regretted the way I had acted.

I would have text OP something like 'Ok, I get that. I would like to say I am really sorry though. I know I should have acted like that. But understand your position. I am happy to drop your stuff off. Or you can collect it while I am out and leave the key. Again, I am sorry'

See, I wouldn't. I'd think they had a point and wouldn't want to prolong it.

I'd just say OK. But everyone is different and that's why it's hard to project. The bottom line is that OP has done the right thing by ending it because, whatever he meant by 'ok', his behaviour is not appropriate in a long term relationship.

ShagMeRiggins · 25/06/2019 08:49

also you are assuming he was "putting her first".

No, quite the opposite.

sonjadog · 25/06/2019 11:27

I would have replied much as he did if I got a text like that. I don’t think it means anything more than he accepts it is over.

lifebegins50 · 26/06/2019 18:52

Anyone who has been with a stonewaller knows how it starts which I think is why there are the differing views. Conflict in a relationship is inevitable and how a person deals with imthe negative emotions shows their emotional maturity and intelligence.

I think his dismissive tone is deliberate. There is no attempt of reciprocity or seeking mutual territory. I suspect he didnt like the OP challenging him so the relationship isn't worth much to him.

I think you listened to your instincts and you don't need to justify yourself. Well done.

Nadia86 · 26/06/2019 19:55

@lifebegins50 thanks for posting.I know I was right.Im struggling though today,questioning myself,my decision,hope it will pass soon :(

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lifebegins50 · 26/06/2019 20:04

I has a very abusive marriage but still struggled with "did I do the right thing".

We are conditioned to "work stuff out and see the others persons pov" but that only works if there is mutual respect.

SwordofGryffindor · 27/06/2019 21:42

I dont get why you freaked out. You even said you're short and thick and thick is a compliment ...

hammie46i · 29/06/2019 00:56

@SwordofGryffindor have you read the entire thread? Its explained in there.

Nadia86 · 29/06/2019 07:52

Thanks for comments guys.I managed nearly a week and it has not been too bad.He texted on Monday saying he would drop my stuff off and I said Monday was not good and asked to drop it off at my brothers instead who lives near me to which he replied that its ok we will rearrange.Then on Thursday he asked to drop it off again and I said fine.He continued texting about what I wanted taken etc I kept replied with either „ ok” or nothing. He ended up not coming as he decided that he wanted to stay at home that afternoon to „ enjoy the sunny day”so I replied I will collect it myself after my holidays. He then proceeded to text that he is still not sure what to say to his kids and I havent replied and heard nothing since Thursday.His kids are lovely,smart,funny and kind but whatever he tells them is not my concern anymore.It is like he is trying to talk about practicalities to keep in touch and also to control the last thing he can control ( dropping my things off) and now there is nothing left for him to text about.
Im ok.Missing him like mad etc but he doesnt need to know this.Not ready to see him. Will get my staff in a couple of weeks.

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