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"You are short and thick"

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Nadia86 · 20/06/2019 19:58

Hi. First time poster here. Need some advice or perspective. I realise people have real problems and this is probably nothing but I am lost and really not sure what to do.
Have been with my boyfriend just over a year .Great relationship ,partnership I would say ,no issues at all. Until this week. We do not live together ,we are happy as we are.
We talk all the time on the phone ,whatsapp as we live in different places ,half an hour away train journey. We see each other 2-3 times a week –again it suits us fine.
Two days ago we were talking about my country of origin on whatsapp and I said my looks indicate where I come from (facial features etc no need for detail here).To which he responded that he didn’t think I was tall enough –he pictured women from my country to be tall and slim and I am “short and thick”! I got annoyed and told him so and was not very chatty with him all day that day but didn’t discuss it any further as I wanted to see him on Wednesday (as we previously planned) to discuss what he said and why I thought it wasn’t nice.
The next day we just had a casual chat on whatsapp as usual and I said to him why his comment was unnecessary and that I couldn’t believe he didn’t get it. He responded with ……a gallery of screen shots of “thick” Instagram models (curvy pretty girls but not skinny ) saying “I stand by what I said –you are not skinny”. To which I replied that I am more than aware of what I look like and that it is not necessary for him to point it out. And then I mentioned about me coming over tonight and said I would like us to have dinner etc and we could discuss it ,I could explain my point of view and just see each other. He told me to give it a miss and that if he is making me so insecure then we both need to give it some thought…. That was yesterday afternoon .Not heard anything since. Spoke to a few friends and decided to give him time.

Wtf????? I am struggling to see where I went wrong here apart from pointing out I didn’t like the comment and that I wanted to explain to him why.
Not sure what the hell this silence from him means. This has never happened before. We are both 35,mature adults who have not had any issues like that before.
My issue is - I am still just as insecure as any other woman is. I am a UK size 8/10,very fit, healthy and attractive (don’t mean to sound in love with myself as that’s not the case). I am awesome! I know I am not tall and slim and I am thick and curvy but I am who I am . I look good. He loves my body and I love his. He is healthy ,fit and we both have the same goals in regards to our health and fitness and we support each other. Not sure why he tried so hard to tell me /prove to me that I am not skinny! To do his stupid instagram research to prove his point as if I didn’t get what he was saying first time around.
And whats worst –I haven’t heard from him since yesterday. Not sure what the hell is going on. Spoke to some friends – different ideas here as what happened-he is in a huff because I was in a huff (lol). He is trying to show me who is the boss and that I am wrong. 3-He knows he did wrong and does not want to admit it. Honestly I am lost. Cant stand this silence.I am pissed off and want to tell him that but will not do it over a text. One friend suggested he is acting like a child and playing games (again it has never happened before). Other friend told me to ignore it. But I am too angry and sad at the same time to leave it like this. What do I do?????

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Moralitym1n1 · 24/06/2019 08:03

Op this must be very upsetting after a year of a relationship that apparently had no major problems; you seem to be coping so well and are so sensible and strong Flowers.

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 08:09

Hi @proteinshakesandtears .Im ok actually this morning,looking forward to day at work :) Not texted yet might wait longer. But Im only thinking about myself :)

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Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 08:11

Thank you @Moralitym1n1 im trying! Ive been through worse tbh

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Proteinshakesandtears · 24/06/2019 08:12

Thinking about yourself is the right thing to do.

I would only text him if you really need your stuff and not mention anything else about sorting it out.

If you didnt need the stuff at his I would say, just leave it.

Have a good day. Smile

RestingBitchFaced · 24/06/2019 08:13

I don't think you over-reacted at all to the comment. I would have told him to fuck off, and now your blaming yourself? He's a prick, and your well rid of him.

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 08:17

Im actually trying to decide whether I really need my stuff from his house now or whether it could wait.I want it all back and I know he will keep it and return it whenever Im ready so might wait.

Thank you so much @RestingBitchFaced. You guys are really helping, it gives me more power!

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Proteinshakesandtears · 24/06/2019 08:20

If you dont need it for your trip, I would leave it and not text him at all until you sre back. Just asking for your stuff.

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 08:20

Omg he has literally just texted me.”Im sorry about the silence I will call you tonight so we can talk “.What do I do??

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Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 08:21

He actually said “I will call you tonight of you want me to”

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Proteinshakesandtears · 24/06/2019 08:23

I wouldnt answer. Until I had spent sometime thinking about the response.

Do you want to talk it out?

Do you want to be with someone who let's you feel this shit, because you disagreed?

You see entirely within your rights to say it's too late, or that you dont feel there is much to discuss or you dont want to talk about it tonight. You want to enjoy your day at work and relax tonight. Not deal with this.

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 08:26

Im so angry at him but I also want to know what he will say. I haven’t replied I can be silent too!

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hadthesnip2 · 24/06/2019 08:36

I would at least give him the opportunity to apologise. See what he says. If after that you still feel the same then end it. Just think you need to talk about your feelings first.

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 08:44

He might as well want to call to break up with me and I dont want him to think that it's his decision to make after what he put me through

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Lordamighty · 24/06/2019 09:23

Don’t reply.

LMou · 24/06/2019 09:49

Do you want to continue to be in a relationship with him? If there’s a chance you do, speak to him.

If you think it’s over, I’d just not bother replying.

hadthesnip2 · 24/06/2019 09:50

Does it really matter who's decision it is ?? A bit petty imo.

motherofcats81 · 24/06/2019 10:02

If he is apologetic do you think you would want to give him another chance OP?

If you would consider it, you can speak to him while still making clear you are not happy with it the way he has dealt with things.

TheStuffedPenguin · 24/06/2019 10:10

IF YOU WANT ME TO ? Jackass!

Proteinshakesandtears · 24/06/2019 10:13

What do you want?
That's what it comes down to?

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 10:16

Its about the fact that he thinks he can go silent and that I will wait for him to call with HIS decision.I might be petty sorry but Im just pissed off.Havent replied.

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Whackitupto200 · 24/06/2019 10:17

I’ve read the whole thread.

OP I was with someone like this before i Met DH and believe me - these are his true colours.

He’s texted you today because he thought you would have caved by now. He needs to make sure he’s still got you dangling and that he still has the power.

A PP was right - his stonewalling for the past 5 or 6 days is actually a form of mental abuse. It’s his punishment of you for speaking out against him.

When my (lovely) DH and I were first dating he gave me a very clumsy compliment. He told me I had a ‘solid arse’ (what a smooth talker!). Obviously this wasn’t received well by me - especially as we were in a restaurant at the time! I got upset/annoyed. But because DH isn’t a cruel arsehole he had the good grace to be mortified that he’d upset me and apologised profusely. Even though he was trying to pay me a compliment about my (awesome) behind.

What he DIDN’T do was double down and start showing me pictures of Beyoncé and Kim Kardashian, to minimise my feelings and prove that I was ‘wrong’ and he was ‘right’. Because he’s not a cunt.

It’s irrelevant now whether the initial disagreement was a miscommunication. Don’t let that deflect from the more important issue - the fact that he has deliberately stonewalled you for almost a week. This is who he really is. And the next time you have a falling out, he will do it to you again to make sure you’re always on the back foot. The ‘silent treatment’ is the ultimate power play and you should always be wary of anyone who uses it. It’s a big red flag.

I wish so much that I’d never gone back to my ex boyfriend the first time he gave me the silent treatment. I would have not wasted years and years trying to get things back to how good they were in the beginning.

I also see that this man has children and you do not? It’s not central to the current issue, but as an aside, being with a man who has children is not easy - in fact it gets harder the longer you’re together and the family dynamics get more complicated. This, combined with his recent behaviour, makes me think that you are on the brink of having a very lucky escape indeed. Don’t let him pull you back in. There is much better waiting for you out there.

Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 10:20

Not sure.I was soooo happy with him until last Wednesday. But it all seems so long ago its like he is a different person to me now.

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Nadia86 · 24/06/2019 10:24

Thanks @Whackitupto200 I really appreciate your post a lot!

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motherofcats81 · 24/06/2019 10:30

I also don't think you are being petty @Nadia86 there is empowerment in not allowing him to make all the decisions!

@Whackitupto200's post is very good.

Whackitupto200 · 24/06/2019 10:46

My strong suspicion is that if you do patch things up with him, he will find an excuse to start another disagreement either just before you leave for your holiday, or at the beginning of your holiday. He’ll try to spoil it for you and make sure that instead of enjoying yourself, you spend the whole ten days either texting him or obsessing about whether he will text you.

Just a hunch I have.

The most badass move you could make now is to text him back, tell him you don’t want to talk to him, his stonewalling this week has made your mind up, and please can he get your stuff back to you thanks very much.

Then go on your holiday and have a fab time without him taking up headspace. You’ll feel so much better and stronger after ten days with your girlfriends.