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still shaking - hve discoverd my instinct about the other woman was right

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hatingtoberight · 24/07/2007 07:12

Dh work colleague - I've had bad vibes abouther since day one. Iknew somethign ws brewing. I have just seen an email exhcnage between them from last night - she has obvioulsy had anr 'emotional outburst' with him yesterday and now he knows how she feels abouthim. Oh God - I so didn't want this to be right. They have to work together - how are they goign to do this? What on earth doI do next? sit by and watch it develop and hop e he sees sense? declare my hand and that I ws looking at his email? If i tell him I'm onto them - it won't necesarily stop it - it wil just be better covered up. He's been so nice recently - of COURSe he bloody has!

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StarryStarryNight · 24/07/2007 19:25

Tempestafar's dh did not even accuse her of an affair, so she got off lightly I think. They could just sidestep the issue.

Dior · 24/07/2007 19:56

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babygrand · 25/07/2007 07:46

Hatingtoberight - how did you get on last night?

hurtwife · 25/07/2007 08:13

Hope it all went ok too. This was me last year - sorry you are going through it but be prepared for a real rollercoaster ride of emotions. We are here for you whatever you do.

CodAintUsingFairyNonBio · 25/07/2007 09:43

no news here yet

JeremyVile · 25/07/2007 14:26

You about?

How did it go last night?

CodAintUsingFairyNonBio · 25/07/2007 14:27

i htink there was a confrontation
no update

she is at work
bet she odens t want to start cryin there

purplepoppet · 25/07/2007 18:00

I hope htbr is ok

sugarmatches · 25/07/2007 19:24

There can be a plus side to this situation.
My dh works occasionally with a women whom he has described as "quite pretty". Well she is gorgeous really and successful, whilst I sit at home and play mummy all day.
I knew something was not right with her from the start. She is very flirty with all the men she works with and seems to thrive on the attention. Whenever she would be anywhere at the same time as me, she never met my eye or even tried to speak to me, which I found really odd. Dh knew I found something off with her, but he just brushed it off.
A few months ago we were all at the pub and she showed up with her new bf. He immediately started chatting to me and was really friendly, which I know she hated. But it meant that she had to finally acknowledge my existence.
Many drinks later and she said something really unnerving. She called my dh "beautiful" three times and fianlly said "one of the things I find most attractive about him is that he is obviously in love with you and not interested in anyone else"
!!!!!
I was drunk, but almost slapped her! Erm, how do you suppose she came to that conclusion??
Long story short, she is a bit of a slapper who tries it on with my dh and he never bites. I cannot figure out why she would do that and am really just hoping after meeting me and us all getting along, that she might cool down now. Who knows??

PLS HAVE FAITH IN YOUR DH!! NOT ALL MEN FALL VICTIM TO THESE WOMEN. IF HE LOVES YOU, SHE CAN JIGGLE HER BOOBIES AT HIME ALL DAY AND HE WILL JUST BE FLATTERED AT THE VERY MOST.
The jiggle boobies thing is something my ds says about Beyonce

hurtwife · 25/07/2007 19:31

Sugar that is a lovely story - was the girl at work really that awful - becuse i am a total flirt but would never touch a married man (or any man at all whilst married myself) but i would hate to think that anyone would think me a total slapper.

sugarmatches · 25/07/2007 19:33

And I just wanted to add.
Men really are from a different planet. They do cheat and are filthy scum sometimes.

But I would love to snap my fingers and make every woman out there who is looking after their family and doing the best they can see how wonderful they are.
Why is it that I feel this OW is better than me because she wears pretty clothes to work and he has never seen her ill, hungover, in childbirth, etc.???
She has this allure of glamour and I am just getting through the day.
!!!!

sugarmatches · 25/07/2007 19:37

She is quite pretty. She feeds off the attention she gets and I do feel she would jump at the chance to sleep with my dh if he let her.
I am not the only wife/gf in our circle to say these things about her. But I am the only one who's husband she finds "beautiful".
BIT%H!!
It did re-ignite our sex life a bite though (sorry if tmi), as I have felt a bit threatened and have made more of an effort IFYWIM.
I told him that he doesn't need to go out for fast food, he can stay at home and have a nice homecooked meal ;)

hurtwife · 25/07/2007 19:40

Sugar it is not just men - the ow here is married too.

The ow in my case was married and left her children for the man (my husband) who says he never even farted in front of her!!

We should all accept that with the lust-haze we can all make huge mistakes. I just wish everyone could have more respect for each other. I am a flirt but if i knew it was upsetting someone i certainly would stop it. My h is a huge flirt too - just wish he could have left it there and enjoyed it for what it is. (he is not quite so flirty now though!!).

hurtwife · 25/07/2007 19:44

also dont be threatened by pretty - the ow in my case certainly did not match me looks wise (everyone elses views) but i think that actually makes it worse though (so what did she have then? cant possibly imagine!!). It did re-kindle our sex life a bit too - which was a good thing as i think i had forgotten good that slow cooked home meal could be too.

sugarmatches · 25/07/2007 20:59

I think I am pretty, but in a no make-up casual way.
She even has gel nails, the whole glam package.
I am flirty as well, but there is a line you don't cross...like telling someone how much you fancy their husband.

StarryStarryNight · 25/07/2007 21:10

So any news from the OP?

hatingtoberight · 26/07/2007 07:27

Hello - sorry about hte radio silence.

well the confrontatin has happened. I held it together as long as I coudl. Then...on teh Tuesday - with BIL in situ - I looked at teh emails again . And this time she was quoting farking song lyrics at him!

That ws it I'm afrid. Next tiem Dh asked me what ws wrong I came back with - 'right I need to knwo what is goign on and DON'T take me for a mug!'

He didn't tell me much to begin wiht - kept asking me what I was getting at..but I jsut kept to the I'm not a fool - just TELL me line. He asid that two weeks agao she had declard how much she felt fro him. He told her it ws inapproapraite - of course he ws flatterd. He thought they had put a lid on it and found a way to work together. !

Meanwhile poor BIL is manfully flicking throughthe Sky channels and turing thvolume up bless him!

At this stage I still didnd't tell him abut the emails....I pretended it ws my intuition that I knew soemthing extra had happened the day before. He said yes - she ahd had another outburst with him an d he had told her he wasn't intersted. In all fairness - this does fit the genreal tone of the emails - she was always much more OTT and kissy than he.

Once I had established that his story was consisitemnt with what i had seen I told him that I looked at his emails. That was difficult. He was fine. He said he would have doen the same.

I told him I have copies of them and that may be soemthing he woudl liek to tell the slag. I told him I also have her husband's phone numbers. I swore and shouted at him. I took the piss out of evry line I could rememebr from their farking emails.

SInce then I have been onthe roller coaster ride taht yo have all been talking about. I do belive him. Every now and then I have to ask more questions - like if it ws over why did you feel the need to continue emailing all over last weekend? How the hell are you goign to work together? Yesterday he went in to work - but I ranghim inthe mornign in a state and he came straight home to me. I ahd to go into work later which was really hard.

A lot of this is bound up with other emotiional issues - this is not me making a n excuse , and we have started to talk about these at length. He was trying to sort it out without upsettng me.

I'm not sure how I feel at the moment - I think I am still in shock. I am still angry and it's hard to taek that leap of faith to believe the other person. I still want to contact her and tell her what a cow she is to go near soemone els's husband and how close she has come ot ruining two families lives.
But I do feel it will be OK.

Is it appropriate to expect great gifts of jewellery form him now?
(sorry - not funny)

OP posts:
hurtwife · 26/07/2007 07:40

Glad to see you are ok - do still listen to your gut feel though. If there is something going on it could push it more underground. It was good that he came home from work though to you. Remember you have done nothing wrong and it is up to him to now make up to you the hurt you so rightfully feel.

hatingtoberight · 26/07/2007 07:49

He has told her agin that there is to ebnothing betweenthem. He has told her that I have seen the emails. He is devastated that he wsn't stronger.

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Freckle · 26/07/2007 08:00

But if he was trying to tell her he wasn't interested, why did he respond to her emails in any way other than "Don't contact me, I'm not interested" and why sign off with kisses?

Dior · 26/07/2007 08:17

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morningpaper · 26/07/2007 08:25

lol @ your poor BIL!

From me experience, once this sort of 'relationship' is on the boil it is REALLY REALLY hard not to become embroiled - emotionally or physically.

You DH really needs to change jobs and make a break. Start putting together a plan so that he can do that.

You sound like you handled it really well but your DH needs to get out of there or things will be too stressful and horrible for all involved.

ggglimpopo · 26/07/2007 08:27

Ditto Freckle. Please be careful - the kisses are inappropriate and inconsistent with his "not at all interested" stance.

Believe him - but be on guard.

eleusis · 26/07/2007 08:42

Nobody at my work signs their e-mails to me with kisses. I suspect that there is something he has not revealed.

Deffo be on guard. Maybe you should tell him that you want to forgive him, but you are not quite convinced so it is up to him to convince you.

purplepoppet · 26/07/2007 08:51

I agree with eleusis...he needs to do everything he can to convince you and reassure you. I don't mean to sound cynical and I really do hope he's telling you the truth, however men in these situations do tend to tell you what you want to hear...and will lie out of their backsides to do so. You will then so desperately want it to be the truth that you will do your best to believe them. Then when it's all reeling around inside your head you realise that the pieces don't quite fit...that there are grey areas that you can't really make any sense of. The confusion ends up doing your head in!

Please be very careful...he may well have told her he's not interested, but from the emails you have seen, he doesn't appear to have tried very hard.

Sorry, don't mean to sound so negative about it all..you know your dh better than any of us and you need to go with your gut instinct on this one...but definately, be on your guard and don't just sweep this under the carpet.

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