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Dating thread 160: fallen in love with someone you shouldn’t have fallen in love with

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CassettesAreCool · 23/05/2019 12:37

The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.

  1. Develop a thick skin.
  2. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  3. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  4. Trust your gut instinct.
  5. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  6. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  7. If it's not fun, stop.
  8. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

And a reminder - you don't know them until you know them!

Link to Info on Dating Websites & Apps www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3514717-List-of-Dating-Site-Info-Dating-Thread?watched=1

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shitwithsugaron · 27/05/2019 07:16

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Bluezoo123 · 27/05/2019 07:16

Thanks bats and stealth no worries - I've been particularly vague as didn't want to out myself. Ultimately I'm in 2 minds and have been for a while-1 issue that I'm not sure if it's a issue but time will tell, added to the fact he is going through a very difficult time atm.

Bluezoo123 · 27/05/2019 07:17

shit too cute!

CassandraGemini · 27/05/2019 07:19

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StealthNinjaMum · 27/05/2019 08:02

cassandra thAnks for commenting. I have had my colours done and I'n autumn so like greens, browns, reds, oranges. I used to be quite smart but am in the process of buying a more casual wardrobe to be less frumpy. My main problem is I need something fitted or I look like I have no waist and that's kind of my best bit. I have a couple of shift dresses and maxi dresses and they're nice but the lack of waist means they're not sexy. Given that the man has seen me naked I maybe don't need to be sexy but on our first date I was wearing a lovely silky top and silky Hush maxi skirt and he couldn't keep his hands off me which I really liked I think I need to pay a trip to the style and beauty board although I have been lurking already for a few months.

StealthNinjaMum · 27/05/2019 08:06

cassandra I don't go anywhere nice but for many years I was overweight so I was always very well dressed to overcompensate and it's just habit now. I have only really started wearing jeans recently.

Marlboroandmalbec34 · 27/05/2019 08:26

Agree with nestof it’s great to see so many people putting great boundaries in place. I really need you guys to rub off on me...I am still being mind fucked by Mr Big! Too much to go into here but he does like me but he is a scaredy cat. Feels a bit like what jesuis had with Mr Plummer a while back 🙈

Still super crazy happy for shitwith and batshit

Lovemusic33 · 27/05/2019 08:35

Mr Dog has just gone home, I’m feeling pretty rubbish about most things, he drank half a bottle of rum which he stole from my kitchen cupboard, apparently he was anxious about meeting my kids so decided rum would help 😐, I’m not really a drinker despite having a bottle of rum in the house. The rum made him open up about lots of stuff that I probably didn’t really need to know about, it also made him question wether a relationship would work between us, I have a feeling he will now do a runner and I will get a message saying “it’s not going to work”. If hadn’t have drunk half a bottle of rum I probably would have sent him home last night. He snored like a train and I got no sleep, I’m working later today so I’m not impressed with the lack of sleep. He’s quite possibly fucked up by making the choice to down the rum ☹️. It’s a shame as we have spent quite a bit of time together whilst sober and he seemed reasonable. Why do things always seem to go pear shape once someone stays the night? I was happy just going out once a week and having some sex, none of this sharing a bed and talking about serious stuff Sad

CassettesAreCool · 27/05/2019 08:40

love that sounds horrible, I’m sorry. But why wait for him to take the initiative? It doesn’t sound like you want him at all, so just tell him.

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Lovemusic33 · 27/05/2019 08:52

I don’t know Cassettes I just feel totally confused about what happened, he did apologise 100 times, I knew he was nervous about meeting my kids but it was his idea, if I knew how nervous he was I would have waited, it wasn’t something I wanted to rush into. The worrying thing was the amount he drank and it barely effected him (other than making him very talkative), he had 4 cans of Stella and half a bottle of rum, I’m sure if most people drank that they would have been on the floor or very ill. He wasn’t acting drunk around my kids, I didn’t even notice until my kids went upstairs then he told me about the rum. I guess I was liking the quite nervous him from previous dates, I liked the fact he didn’t talk much about his past but then last night he spoke too much and things suddenly become serious rather than just fun. I probably spoke too much too, I did have a drink and probably over shared stuff, it was just a total mess.

SimonJT · 27/05/2019 08:54

@CocoKoko123

It was the guy I have been kind of seeing, not my FWB, but he had been to Brum pride where FWB was performing, confusing I know! He was absolutely off his tits, I feel so sorry for the people who had to share a train carriage with him 😂 in his drunken state he failed to check out of his hotel or collect his things, so he had to buy another return ticket yesterday to collect all his stuff 😂 what a tit.

kerkyra · 27/05/2019 09:04

I was meant to have a date this week. We had been chatting since early last week,but I now realise when an iron messages ' have a great weekend' on a Friday,he's basically saying goodbye. Online all the time and ignoring me,so I have to move on.
I really think all this online chatting means nothing before you actually meet. Going to have to rethink dating as it's not going well!

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SimonJT · 27/05/2019 09:07

@Lovemusic33 helped himself to booze and drunk the first time he meets a partners children, what a knob.

StealthNinjaMum · 27/05/2019 09:18

lovemusic33 thr secret alcohol drinking would bother me. I was nervous about Saturday's date but I didn't feel the need to drink.

What sort of relationship are you looking for? Isn't it inevitable that you both start talking about the past to help you get to know each other? Are you just looking for a casual fwb arrangement?

StealthNinjaMum · 27/05/2019 09:24

cassandragemini I'm also very short so get swamped easily. I've decided I'm going to wear a maxi dress and not spend hours trying to find the perfect date outfit.

I was really worried about the mumtum but as I was dtd on Saturday it really isn't as bad as I think it is! I think standing up looking in a mirror gravity makes it look worse.

Notcoolmum · 27/05/2019 09:27

stealthninja and cassandra have you checked out Styled by Susie on FB? Great group of women on there with good advice on clothes for different body types.

lovemusic being able to drink that much and hide it is quite worrying. That sounds like he is a very heavy drinker. Have you spotted any signs about this earlier? Did he have a hangover the next day? How old are your children? Did he even ask if it was ok to open the rum. Huge alarm bells ringing here!!

kerkrya sorry dating isn't going well.

How lovely shitwith and batshit feeling very envious of those of you so happily smitten with L bombs. But it's also good to see that sometimes this OLD malarkey does work. I just wish it was working for me.

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Bluezoo123 · 27/05/2019 09:45

love re mr dog that sounds completely unacceptable and I echo what other posters have said
Thanks for explanation simon so he must be quite in to you to go out of his way to see you for 2 seconds!
marl yes do explain re mr big

scotgal2017 · 27/05/2019 12:09

Morning chaps, haven't been on the dating thread for quite a while but looking for some input (Some of you may remember me posting a fair bit when I was seeing Mr. Italy). Apologies but this could be quite long!!!

Mr Italy and I became FB but that didn't last as he was so unreliable even then. I was on 5 dating apps and have been chatting to guys here and there. That's all the majority of them do is talk.

I had a date 2 weekends ago, the guy travelled down to meet me on the bus. He was a lovely guy but no spark for me, but we still text as friends. After that date I started speaking to another guy more local. He seemed very nice, complimentary and cheeky to a level that I am myself. We arranged a coffee date for Saturday past but he asked if I wanted to meet him at his on the Thursday beforehand instead as his flatmate was staying over at his girlfriends (important to point out here is that he offered just to meet somewhere for coffee still if I was uncomfortable meeting at his as we hadn't met in the flesh). I agreed to go to his (I made sure friends knew where I was etc and he really doesn't look the type to be a murderer, i think I could probably take him in a fight he's that thin and only a bit taller than me lol).

When I arrived at his he gave me flowers. He complimented me, listened to me, asked questions and made me laugh a lot. We talked for a good few hours. We kissed, thren talked, kissed etc and it got more heated and we ended up DTD. Again, he did not pressure me it felt right, he kept asking if I was okay etc which no-one has ever done. After we sat talking in bed and he made me coffee. It felt like I had known him for years, it was so comfortable. He asked me to message him to let him know I got home safe, and when I got home he had sent me a text saying he had genuinely had a great night and althogh he was nervousd at the sdtart it felt like he had known me for years (in a good way) by the end. I messaged back saying something similar and went to bed happy. BTW he had said during date he wanted a second one.

Next day we messaged quite regularly through the day and early evening. He went for an early night but was still on pof for a good hour after. Now, I know in OLD people aren't putting all their eggs in one basket, but it just adds to my insecurities. Saturday, he was busy at work but we messaged back and forth during the evening. He was asking lots of questions and we were having a good laugh. I ended convo saying to message me on Sunday (yesterday) if he wasn't busy.

Yesterday he messaged mid afternoon saying he would be glad when work finished and he could open a beer as it ewas hectic. I didn't get message til a couple of hours later as I was in the cinema. We started messaging a bit later by which time he said he was half cut. This is where my thoughts change a bit as in the messaging last night he said to me "I wish you were here" and I replied "Awww, I wish I was too". He replied saying "No, I wish you were here" with the horny devil emoji..... so obviously was thinking about one thing in particular. We had a bit more of a conversation that didn't sit right with me and I could see it was going to descend into (what I thought anyway) him talking pish and me potentially getting offended/upset by something said by him when half cut, so I made my excuses and went to bed.

It hasn't been sitting right with me since and I am freaking out. Having only known an abusive marriage for 20 years, am I scrutinising this too much, as I'm now thinking that because I slept with him on the first date, he's pulling back and that I'm only good for one thing?? Am I being too sensitive/paranoid and should I give him some slack? I'm kicking myself as obviously I'm breaking several of the dating thread rules at once as I appear to have got myself emotionally attached....I'm telling myself if he is a good guy I'm tryin to sabotage it and I'm thinking I'm not ready for dating yet, which has had me in floods of tears the whole morning as I just want to find true love with a normal person. I haven't heard from him at all today and as i'm feeling so emotional about it all, I've started deleting my dating apps and telling myself that I'm not cut out for dating. Also playing on my mind is that there has been no effort to arrange a second date - I'm free during daytimes and he has day off tomorrow, but no talk of arranging to meet?? You may say well why don't you arrange it but part of me is telling myself not to let those walls down and that if he wants me he has to chase a little. Thoughts/advice please if you made it this far!!

CassettesAreCool · 27/05/2019 12:24

scotgal and breathe. You sound quite overwrought and not in a position right now to make any fair assessment of what is going on. Can you meet up with friends/family IRL today and take your mind off it all while you process? I’m sorry you feel like this 💐

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Ginmel · 27/05/2019 13:12

@kerkyra the rules on here have really helped me. I don't message too much before the first meet to stop me getting over invested. It helps. Still not easy.

@scotgal my instinct is he has played you to get you into bed quickly. Unfortunately it worked. I think the sooner you walk away from this the better. Hope I'm wrong!

KhaleesiTargaryen · 27/05/2019 13:17

@scotgal I know how you feel. I wouldn’t text either and wait til he asks you.
You haven’t done anything wrong, he may think one way, he may think the other but you can’t do anything to change that now.
I went out with a guy I really fancied and dtd on the 4th date and I still felt the way you do! As we only saw each other once more after that then he backed away... only to return and say he just got cold feet.
Yes, @richdeniro, him 🙁... I should have blocked him.
Had 3 more dates but loads of messages, every day calling me sweet names and being very affectionate. He works offshore sometimes so those dates were kind of spread out as he was away for 2 weeks. But I felt him being a bit distant last weekend and he confirmed he was unsure, can we just be friends...
I can’t describe how crap I feel. My self esteem has really taken a battering and I just feel really cynical about men. 😰

ccgirr · 27/05/2019 13:18

Scotgal gut feel that he just wanted sex is probably correct as he suggested meeting at his on first date. However he may redeem himself and you have nothing to lose as you’ve dtd anyway. I think your tactic isn’t correct- let him arrange and judge how keen he is. It will be tough though the first bit of not wanting to seem too keen is awful imo

Notcoolmum · 27/05/2019 13:39

scotgal you have done. I thing wrong and shouldn't feel that you did. You are a grown woman who made the choice to have sex with someone you fancied. I think your iron is thinking about having sex with you again. And tbf, given you have only met once, that doesn't seem unreasonable. It doest't mean it can't develop but if it is making you feel uncomfortable or insecure it might be best to leave it where it is.

Definitely don't message him. Leave it to him to see if he arranges another date. And if you do see him again, you don't have to have sex because you have done it once. Hope you are Ok.

Aw khaleesi I'm sorry you are feeling hurt. It's hard when you like someone and they don't like you back in the same way. But we haven't done anything wrong. We will get ourselves back.